So, I got the free Full Self driving trial this morning

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by LATB

I could never travel that way.

Don't forget that we travel with kids..

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

The longest trip leg I ever did was like 360 miles ... so, the 240 miles I can go at highway speeds are not far from what I used to do anyways.

Yea, only a 33% reduction. No biggie.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

Don't forget that we travel with kids..

Yes, so do I.

Shockingly enough, they do just fine without stopping for an hour every 250 miles to recover from all of that hard work sitting in the back seat.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Yes, so do I.

Shockingly enough, they do just fine without stopping for an hour every 250 miles to recover from all of that hard work sitting in the back seat.

it's usually about being hungry, not wanting a break.
Also, the chance of someone needing to use the bathroom with 4 people in the car is higher. I'm not going to refuse drinks to them so we can go longer without a bathroom break. We always have a cooler full of drinks with us on road trips.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

no, I didn't risk anything. The trial is called "SUPERVISED" trial and you need to keep your eyes on the road.

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It is BETA software and needs supervision. Tesla communicates that CLEARLY to users. You have to tap on AGREE that this is supposed to be supervised and you have to intervene if the system makes mistakes.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

No, I paid attention

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

Again, the system is supposed to be monitored.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

This is a supervised system.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

It is a beta product.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

The FSD disclaimer is 2 sentences.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

Those are beta systems with drivers required to pay attention. Yes, accidents can happen if the driver doesn't pay attention.

Many autopilot accidents happen because of ignorant drivers.

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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

At just after 16 minutes into the drive, I went on Vettebarn

Looks like that disclaimer is working well...

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

it's usually about being hungry, not wanting a break.
Also, the chance of someone needing to use the bathroom with 4 people in the car is higher. I'm not going to refuse drinks to them so we can go longer without a bathroom break. We always have a cooler full of drinks with us on road trips.

A bathroom stop with kids takes about 5 minutes.

Refuse drinks? Really? That's the argument you're going with? Nobody is "refusing drinks" to kids to go longer between stops, you f**king clown.

[roadpilot]

If this is a one time pitch for Telsa,so be it.
It is not.
You guys/gals on this forum are helping to promote Telsa and the OP.
I am sure Telsa knows of this discussion thru the OP.
The only one benefiting from this discussion is the OP.
WaKE UP VBF. Enough Telsa, please.

[GixxerBill RIP]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

The answer is that I don't know without having a scenario like that around here.

At least Elon has finally ceded that Lidar is necessary for FSD

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by roadpilot

The only one benefiting from this discussion is the OP.

How exactly is he benefitting from it?

He's doing the exact opposite of promotion for Tesla. If they are aware of it, I would certainly hope they would tell him to stop.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

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Looks like that disclaimer is working well...

There is quite a difference between driving on city streets and driving on the highway. There is little that can go wrong on the highway and that's where I surf the web. Always pay attention around town on FSD.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

A bathroom stop with kids takes about 5 minutes.

Refuse drinks? Really? That's the argument you're going with? Nobody is "refusing drinks" to kids to go longer between stops, you f**king clown.

So, there is always a bathroom right beside the highway. It's not possible that you have to go 1 or 2 lights to get to one. We like to combine food and bathroom stops whenever possible. Works out great for our travel style.. You travel the way you like to travel and we travel the way we like to travel and we have always travelled that way. We always had longer stops for food on long trips.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by roadpilot

If this is a one time pitch for Telsa,so be it.
It is not.
You guys/gals on this forum are helping to promote Telsa and the OP.
I am sure Telsa knows of this discussion thru the OP.
The only one benefiting from this discussion is the OP.
WaKE UP VBF. Enough Telsa, please.

OK, Mr. Cancel Culture.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

How exactly is he benefitting from it?

He's doing the exact opposite of promotion for Tesla. If they are aware of it, I would certainly hope they would tell him to stop.

I'm pointing out real issues that Tesla needs to fix. Nobody is claiming that FSD is working without issues. I had zero interventions again on the way home, so, the system is pretty good.. Not perfect but good..

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

There is quite a difference between driving on city streets and driving on the highway. There is little that can go wrong on the highway and that's where I surf the web. Always pay attention around town on FSD.

Bull.
Shit.

You spend dozens of posts telling us that it's "not ready for prime time", it's a system that needs to be supervised, blah, blah, blah... and then come back with an argument that it's ok to sit on the f**king internet not paying attention whatsoever because there's "little that can go wrong on the highway?"

Is that really the argument you're going with?

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by roadpilot

I am sure Telsa knows of this discussion thru the OP.

Yeah, I hear Oliver and Elon are drinking buddies.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by GixxerBill RIP

At least Elon has finally ceded that Lidar is necessary for FSD

He did?

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Bull.
Shit.

You spend dozens of posts telling us that it's "not ready for prime time", it's a system that needs to be supervised, blah, blah, blah... and then come back with an argument that it's ok to sit on the f**king internet not paying attention whatsoever because there's "little that can go wrong on the highway?"

Is that really the argument you're going with?

There is a million things that can go wrong around town, like pedestrians, a hidden stop sign etc. etc.
There is VERY little that can go wrong on the highway. Most adaptive cruise control with LKA can likely do the same.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Yeah, I hear Oliver and Elon are drinking buddies.

We hang out all the time when I'm down in South Texas

[jw38]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

I don't want to speculate. I prefer facts over speculation. I still have FSD for another 3 to 4 weeks.. I'll try many different scenarios that I can find around here.

Here's a fact. The public doesn't want to be endangered by your beta self-driving weapon.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

My morning commute on FSD this morning..
At just after 16 minutes into the drive, I went on Vettebarn

https://youtu.be/5Xc8mOg75Hg?si=Nd22EDOuEOf9TEoJ

Which proves 2 things:
1. You're not maintaining control of the vehicle
2. You're a ****ing arrogant moron for doing so

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

Don't forget that we travel with kids..

See #1 & 2 above. You're actually willing to endanger your children with beta self-driving software.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

So here's one of the scenarios I was curious about (skip ahead to 9:48):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xc8mOg75Hg&t=588s

The white Camry in the passing lane is what I call a "duckling" - a driver who ostensibly wants to go faster than you, but once he catches up to you he slows down and matches your speed. IOW he seems to "imprint" on you like a baby duckling does to its mother.

When a duckling imprints on me I will immediately adjust my speed as needed to shake him off, but FSD does nothing and allowed the moron to just sit there keeping station off the port bow. Not only does this block the passing lane, but if the Camry should blow a tire of have to swerve to avoid an obstacle your Tesla is toast.

I actually increased my speed right there from72 to 75.. This was a 60 mph zone but flow of traffic was 75, so I went 75.