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Old 12-06-2015, 2:28pm   #1
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Is this where we riot and loot, because I am Kinda eyein' one of those massive curved TVs...




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Dramatic video captured by a bystander and uploaded to Instagram this morning captures a man being shot by Miami Beach Police officers in the middle of Alton Road.

The man had just held up a nearby Bank of America, Miami Beach Police say, and had armed himself with a straight razor from a barbershop before he was shot.

The confrontation started about 10:30 this morning when a hold-up alarm at the 1414 Alton Road Bank of America alerted police; the suspect said he was armed with a bomb, the teller told police.

When officers arrived, the suspect ran into a nearby barber shop and grabbed a straight-edge razor, says Det. Kathleen Prieto. "Shots were fired and the subject is deceased," she says in a statement.

Police have not released the man's name yet.

A video, uploaded by Marcellus Johnson, a Miami-based event photographer, shows the disturbing story unfolding. The video — shot in front of a framing store near 15th Terrace and Alton Road — shows a shirtless man clad in jeans walking down the middle of Alton Road toward officers with their weapons raised. Shortly after the man puts his hands on a police cruiser, one of the cops fires, and the man falls to the ground clutching his chest.

Johnson wrote this about the moment: "Miami Beach Police Officers tried to talk him down, but he just wouldn't cooperate. Early morning shenanigans on Miami Beach. I just want my coffee with 3 creams and 3 sugars."

Miami-Dade police will investigate the shooting, Prieto says. The FBI and MBPD will take on the bank robbery investigation. As police work the scene, Alton Road is closed to traffic between 15th and 16th streets.
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Old 12-06-2015, 2:33pm   #2
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razor...yes, it's a deadly weapon. police are generally trained that an attacker can cover 21 feet or so faster than they can draw and shoot one shot.
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I'll wait on BLM to protest this clear evidence of police brutality to an upstanding criminal who was probably about to start college in January. This time, however, I'm going to lie down on the couch before holding my breath. Last time, I came to with a headache and a nasty bump on the head.

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MIAMI BEACH POLICE GUN DOWN MAN
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The sure kilt him..

Hard to see what his other hand was doing but the one hand he had just put on the deck of the police car.

I don't see where he needed shot just yet.
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The sure kilt him..

Hard to see what his other hand was doing but the one hand he had just put on the deck of the police car.

I don't see where he needed shot just yet.
I'm sure his claim of a bomb will come into it... "I thought he was reaching for a detonator"
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having a razor in his hand and acting in an aggressive manner is sufficient. hell, even bare handed running toward the police would suffice. think you can't get beat to death with fists and feet?
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Looking at it a few more times, and I can't exactly quantify it, but I think rifle guy misfired. I don't think he meant to shoot the guy.

Cop on the left has a taser and fires it at the suspect, you hear it go off a split-second before the first gunshot.

I think when the cop on the left fires his taser, it startled rifle guy and he reacts.
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Poor guy was getting ready to clean up, shave and turn his life around.
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I think the cop on the far side of the car fired first. Watch his movements.
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I know that someone with a knife can be very dangerous and can charge quickly. What I don't understand is, in a situation like this, why wouldn't protocol be to back away to allow for some ability to talk the suspect down.

It just seems to me they fired too quickly.
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Looking at it a few more times, and I can't exactly quantify it, but I think rifle guy misfired. I don't think he meant to shoot the guy.

Cop on the left has a taser and fires it at the suspect, you hear it go off a split-second before the first gunshot.

I think when the cop on the left fires his taser, it startled rifle guy and he reacts.
Exactly my thoughts.
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Looked more like murder by cop to me.
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I feel so bad for that guy getting shot and killed. I mean, ya just can't go robbing places and then confronting the po-po with a razor.

Further, no one forced him to rob the bank. Also, no one forced him to confront the po-po with a razor. If one is willing to go outside of normal, law abiding citizens then one may start a series of occurrences that can be deadly.

Consequences and repercussions.
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Taser tripped the trigger happy gun man. I wouldn't be surprised if the perp's family don't sue for wrongful death.

Regardless, it was a happy ending, but I bet the first trigger man gets a reprimand.
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I feel so bad for that guy getting shot and killed. I mean, ya just can't go robbing places and then confronting the po-po with a razor.

Further, no one forced him to rob the bank. Also, no one forced him to confront the po-po with a razor. If one is willing to go outside of normal, law abiding citizens then one may start a series of occurrences that can be deadly.

Consequences and repercussions.
I agree.

That said, I doubt much will happen since the perp isn't, well you know, a 'Minority'.
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Is this where we riot and loot, because I am Kinda eyein' one of those massive curved TVs...
The 55" Samsung? If you can, would you grab me one? I'll steal you a twelve pack of whatever you want.
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Looking at it a few more times, and I can't exactly quantify it, but I think rifle guy misfired. I don't think he meant to shoot the guy.

Cop on the left has a taser and fires it at the suspect, you hear it go off a split-second before the first gunshot.

I think when the cop on the left fires his taser, it startled rifle guy and he reacts.
But fires twice?
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But fires twice?
Like I said, I can't quite quantify it, but the body language of rifle guy and the other officers indicates to me that the first shot was a surprise to everyone involved.

Anything anyone comes out with right now is opinion or speculation anyway.
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I think the cop on the far side of the car fired first. Watch his movements.
Other side of car guy is holding a taser, not a firearm. You can see cop on left fire his taser. Cop on left and rifle guy are the only two that use their weapons.
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