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Old 04-24-2025, 5:39am   #1
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Default Army Intelligence Analyst traitor

https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-us...inese-national
24 year old @hole with TS/SCI sells intel documents to Chinese spy for $42,000 and only gets 7 years.

This was MY job when I was in the Army and we got briefings out the azz about foreign actors that might try to entice or compromise you - no excuse.

Hell, the J6 participants guilty of nothing more than property crimes in many cases were in the clink for 3 years without due process...

This is a wrist slap and sends the wrong message.
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When I got my clearance it was made perfectly clear any treason like this would result in a very long prison sentence.
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To put this in perspective, think about the 51 individuals who all signed the Hunter laptop letter and think about just how high their security clearances are (or were). Just because you have been investigated up the wazoo does not mean that you are a good person or that your allegiances align with the US. It just means that you haven't outed yourself yet. This person did and got caught. And I agree - seven years is as much of a crime against this country as his transgressions.
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When I got my clearance it was made perfectly clear any treason like this would result in a very long prison sentence.
The penalty for treason should be death, not prison.
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When I got my clearance it was made perfectly clear any treason like this would result in a very long prison sentence.



And you were reminded of it annually.


This is why I had such a hard time with Granny Scandals passing classified information on an illegal, unsecured email server while stating that she didn't know any better. Those briefings are not only mandatory, but they are also annual.
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There should be a lot of public hangings.
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To put this in perspective, think about the 51 individuals who all signed the Hunter laptop letter and think about just how high their security clearances are (or were). Just because you have been investigated up the wazoo does not mean that you are a good person or that your allegiances align with the US. It just means that you haven't outed yourself yet. This person did and got caught. And I agree - seven years is as much of a crime against this country as his transgressions.
Clearance doesn’t equal integrity, it just means you’ve passed the checks. Plenty of people have flown under the radar for years before being exposed. It’s the actions that matter, not just the badge or clearance level. Seven years unchecked is honestly wild
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At least they prosecuted him and put him in prison. That wouldn't have happened under the Brandon Administration.

About those 51 traitors that signed the Hunter laptop letter. I guess that they are too high up to prosecute. Only the low ranks go to prison.
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The penalty for treason should be death, not prison.
Just ask Julius & Ethel.
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Just ask Julius & Ethel.
Yup - an arcane reference but I know what that was about...
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And you were reminded of it annually.


This is why I had such a hard time with Granny Scandals passing classified information on an illegal, unsecured email server while stating that she didn't know any better. Those briefings are not only mandatory, but they are also annual.
100% correct.
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This is one of my favorite documentaries ever. It started off being a plea of innocense by the granddaughter of Ethyl and Julius. She’s a big lefty and she was framing this documentary to make the audience believe her grandparents were framed. 3/4 of the way through, the Soviets release all their secret files and She is confronted with the TRUTH. Straight from their KGB handler no less. Liberals will lie until they are caught.
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Hang em High
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Yup - an arcane reference but I know what that was about...
This was when we were taught history in school instead of how men can give birth to babies and that there are 99 sexes, with only 2---male and female--being unacceptable.
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Just ask Julius & Ethel.
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Of course, the Clintons sold missile defense secrets, and who knows what all Familia Brandon sold them, not to mention Milley feeding them info. Traitors, all.

And let's not forget about the most damaging spy, probably in US history, Jonathan Pollard:

https://www.military.com/history/jon...s-history.html

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Jonathan Pollard Was One of the Most Damaging Spies in US History

Military.com | By Blake Stilwell
Published May 05, 2021

When Jonathan Pollard was convicted of espionage in 1987, he became the first American to go to jail for life for passing secrets to a U.S. ally. The top-secret information Pollard passed on to Israel is so vast and damaging, the complete list of files is itself top secret. He was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 30 years.

There are few things both liberals and conservatives agree on these days, but keeping Pollard in prison for the rest of his life was one of them. Yet, he was released in 2015 and quickly made his way to Israel -- where he received a hero’s welcome.

Pollard became an intelligence analyst for the U.S. Navy in Maryland in 1979. Almost immediately, his security clearance was revoked because he divulged classified information to a South African defense attache in 1980, according to the CIA’s “Pollard Damage Assessment report, issued after his arrest.

Without an extensive investigation, the report says, it was returned, and he went back to work at the Office of Naval Intelligence.


The red flags on Pollard were flying everywhere. He was rejected by the CIA in 1977 for extensive drug use, he lied about his master’s degree from Tufts University in Massachusetts, and he had trouble paying off his debts.

Even after an Air Force clinical psychologist suggested Pollard “was grandiose, manipulative, and at times uncertain of what was real, exaggerated, imagined or false and recommended therapy and assignment to nonsensitive duties,” occasional departmental reshuffles allowed the danger to fly under the radar.

He was allowed to keep working with sensitive information, because he was good at it. Over the course of his career, he was promoted from GS-7 to GS-13 and commended by his superiors regularly.

At the same time, he claimed the U.S. wasn’t making good on its intelligence commitments to Israel, and he saw some intelligence workers as openly anti-Semitic. So he did something about the situation personally. His espionage activities for Israel were short-lived, beginning in June 1984 until his arrest on Nov. 21, 1985.

According to the polygraph-enhanced debrief he received as part of a plea bargain, he was first recruited by Israeli intelligence to hand over information about military developments in several Arab countries between June and August 1984. Later that year, he traveled to Paris, where he was trained and tasked with preparing documents for his Israeli handlers.

For $1,500 every month (more than $3,800 in today’s dollars) and a diamond engagement ring for his new fiancee, Pollard agreed to provide the Israelis with American intelligence on Israel’s Arab neighbors, along with any information about the support they received from the Soviet Union.

Israel wanted to know about Arab and Pakistani nuclear technology, chemical and biological weapons programs, Soviet aircraft and air defense systems, as well as Arab nations’ deployment and readiness intelligence.

Pollard’s handlers also asked for “dirt” on any Israeli political figures who were providing information to the United States.

Every two weeks between January and November 1985, Pollard dropped off large caches of documents to a D.C. apartment with a specially made, high-speed copier, where they were copied and returned. His trips were so regular and his information so vast, he demanded a raise.

Pollard’s supervisors became suspicious after he started falling behind in his work. A closer look found he was handling large amounts of information from the Middle East, instead of North America and the Caribbean, where his work was focused. Coworkers observed him removing classified documents outside of his workplace without authorization, and he was caught on video taking sensitive documents.

Once the FBI was on to him, it didn’t take long to find out what was happening. He and his wife finally were arrested trying to gain asylum at the Israeli embassy and pleaded guilty with the assurance the prosecution would not seek a life sentence. At his sentencing hearing, then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger gave the court a scathing four-page memo that read:

"It is difficult for me, even in the so-called 'year of the spy,' to conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by the defendant in view of the breadth, the critical importance to the U.S., and the high sensitivity of the information he sold to Israel. That information was intentionally reserved by the United States for its own use, because to disclose it, to anyone or any nation, would cause the greatest harm to our national security."

The judge gave him a life sentence despite the plea agreement.

Among the most damaging intel Pollard is (publicly) known to have given Israel information about is the VQ-2 electronic surveillance system and the 10-volume Radio and Signal Intelligence (RASIN) manual, detailing the entire U.S. global listening profile, detailing what communications the National Security Agency was monitoring, from which countries and what the U.S. priorities were.

Some of his disclosures are said to have ended up in the hands of the Soviet Union, which many believe were traded by Israel to the USSR in exchange for the continued emigration of Soviet Jewish citizens to Israel.

Pollard has spent more than 30 years spinning the justifications for his activities against the United States. At the time of his arrest, he claimed Israel’s security was his primary motivation. American intelligence officials believe he sold out the United States for jewelry, cash and opulent vacations with his wife. They believe Israel would have won any war against its neighbors without Pollard’s help and his motivation was purely monetary.
Portrait of Jonathan Pollard spray-painted on corrugated shutter of a stall at the Mahane Yehuda Market, Jerusalem, Israel. (Creative Commons/Yoninah)

Israel initially disavowed Pollard and any intelligence he passed, saying he was part of an unauthorized, rogue operation. Even so, the Israeli government had been trying to negotiate his release since 1990. In May 1998, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu acknowledged Pollard was an Israeli operative and tried to broker a deal with President Bill Clinton. The possibility of his early release sparked a huge backlash from the American intelligence community.

After serving 30 years in prison, Pollard was released on Nov. 20, 2015, as required by a law in place at the time of his sentence. The law’s only requirements for parole was that Pollard had broken no prison regulations and he was unlikely to commit his crimes again. But even after his release, Pollard was forced to spend five years on probation in the New York City area. In 2020, after his parole expired, he immigrated to Israel.
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Damn. That’s a blast from the past
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-us...inese-national
24 year old @hole with TS/SCI sells intel documents to Chinese spy for $42,000 and only gets 7 years.

This was MY job when I was in the Army and we got briefings out the azz about foreign actors that might try to entice or compromise you - no excuse.

Hell, the J6 participants guilty of nothing more than property crimes in many cases were in the clink for 3 years without due process...

This is a wrist slap and sends the wrong message.


LOOK INTO THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Trofimoff
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Ha, both my brothers lived a few streets over in Norfolk from where the spy Walker resided....he might never have been caught if it hadn't been for his wife ratting him out...

My brother tried to buy it after agents peeled everything out of the inside of the house to the wall studs.... It was just gonna be too much work to bring back unless one could steal it.

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map...e/view/google/

I won't even get started on Hillary - she had the most cavalier attitude about national and operational security I've seen in my 43 year long government career... She genuinely didn't give 2 shits about the consequences of her transgressions...
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Ha, both my brothers lived a few streets over in Norfolk from where the spy Walker resided....he might never have been caught if it hadn't been for his wife ratting him out...

My brother tried to buy it after agents peeled everything out of the inside of the house to the wall studs.... It was just gonna be too much work to bring back unless one could steal it.

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map...e/view/google/

I won't even get started on Hillary - she had the most cavalier attitude about national and operational security I've seen in my 43 year long government career... She genuinely didn't give 2 shits about the consequences of her transgressions...


That is because she is untouchable.


We really cannot hate democrats enough.
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