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There's no sense trying to argue this topic again...and again...and again. You're wasting your time there.
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This whole debate reminds me of Prohibition. Rational alcohol policy would be to prohibit minors from using or posessing alcohol, and prohibiting drunk driving and drunk flying.....that's it. Of course, that wasn't good enough for our Carrie Nation conservatives, so we banned it for everyone, which just minted a whole bunch of new criminals. Nowdays, we have open container laws, we arrest thin people who drive after 2 or three drinks, we ticket sober drivers who are driving around sober passengers who are drinking in the car. We make irrational laws just because we feel we must "do something" about a perceived problem. Want to prevent another Sandy Hook? Make all the laws you want, crazy people will still go crazy and Sandy Hooks will still happen. All that will change is that the crazy person will have broken more laws doing the same action.....oh, and currently law abiding folks will be going to jail for violating laws that have no effect on crazies and criminals who could not care less about breaking the law in the first place. |
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Had I bothered to keep reading, I could have saved a post saying exactly what you are saying.
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Here's a simple plan. Enforce the laws we already have. |
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The desire to "do something" to absolutely, positively, prevent more shootings is a desire to win an unwinable fight. Whatever you do, you can't prevent violent crazies from being violent.
What do the AA folks say? Accept the things you cannot change? Good advice. Not all accidents are preventable, and not all evil is preventable, either. Do or spend whatever you want. Those two things are immutable truth. Thankfully, your chances of being a victim of a violent crazy person is pretty small. That's small comfort for those that are, and my heart goes out to those effected, but **** happens. |
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Last I checked, it was already illegal to kill people which pretty clearly indicates that the existing laws were not enforced.
What you fail to realize is that the person who is insane enough to want to kill a bunch of kids or a people at a theater is going to do it, gun or not. Hypothetically, let's take the guns away. You could easily make a couple of pipe bombs out of household goods that would wipe out a hell of a lot more people. It wouldn't be hard at all to take out just as many defenseless kids or unsuspecting movie goers with a knife. You could drive a car through the playground, bar the doors and light it on fire, hell, there are infinite ways to kill people. We realize that the whole "personal responsibility" concept seems to elude you, but it is the person... NOT THE GUN. Now, how would any of your crap prevented them? (Hint: it wouldn't have) Why were there 500 homicides in Chicago this year despite guns being illegal there? In case you missed it since it was given almost no media attention (because it didn't promote your sides agenda) a nutjob in China just proved that killing 22 kids with a knife. Should all knife owners be required to have psych evals? How is it possible for someone with even the slighest amount of intelligence to look at past events like prohibition and the current "war on drugs" and still somehow think that simply making something illegal will prevent bad things from happening? Are you really that simple minded and ignorant of reality? |
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Virginia got tired of all the murders in Washington coming from guns purchased there. So what did they do? They passed a law saying you can only buy one gun a month. Now most of the guns used to kill people in DC are purchased from states farther south. We need federal laws. |
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None. Wonder what the body count would have been had he had a gun. |
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There's plenty of federal gun laws, making them harder to get one place doesn't mean people will stop getting them, they'll only source them somewhere else. Last edited by Stangkiller; 01-02-2013 at 2:21pm. |
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This is no different than Pubs passing laws harassing women seeking abortions. We did that here in TX, forcing doctors to do a sonogram (sp?) and to make the doctors play the sound of the baby's heartbeat to those abortion seeking women. Will this stop the woman from getting her abortion? No. Will it harass that woman? Absolutely. Limiting gun buyers to one gun a month is exactly the same kind of deal.....harassment that achieves nothing except more government jobs enforcing a law just for the sake of having a law. |
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As long as the bunch of self righteous, ignorant, enlightened assholes feel like they "won" reality is completely irrelevant.
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The resident lft had never proposed any law that would have prevented any of the recent killings. Don't answer the questions he refused to. Fuk him.
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