Frivilous Lawsuits

[bierbelly]

Surgeons left 4,857 objects in patients over the past two decades

[Blademaker]

I heard that this morning on the news.

Scary

[lspencer534]

Most lawsuits aren't frivolous, particularly medical malpractice cases. It's hard to convince a jury that a doctor has been negligent; they want clear evidence that it happened.

People who study these things estimate that almost 100,000 people a year are negligently killed by doctors and hospitals. That's over 3 times the number of people who die in auto accidents each year.

[island14]

Originally Posted by lspencer534

Most lawsuits aren't frivolous, particularly medical malpractice cases. It's hard to convince a jury that a doctor has been negligent; they want clear evidence that it happened.

People who study these things estimate that almost 100,000 people a year are negligently killed by doctors and hospitals. That's over 3 times the number of people who die in auto accidents each year.

A lot of lawsuits are bullshit, you know it, I know it, we all know it..

And it makes it bad for all of the Legit lawsuits that are meant to keep the real bullshit against us in place..

Doctors have made medicine a business.. someone need to keep them in check

My old childhood Doc was a great guy, who did the best he could do with the knowledge he could deal with at the time..

Many... (but not all) of today's Docs could care less about you, and want to do all they can to milk a dollar out of you even if it means operations that were not necessary.

Just my humble .02

[Aerovette]

March 2007 - A recent study by Healthgrades found out that preventable medical errors have caused up to almost 100,000 new deaths every year, making it considered a national epidemic.

In 2007, the figures available from the Centers for Disease Control, 31,224 people died from gun injuries.

Lawyers win either way.

[lspencer534]

Originally Posted by island14

A lot of lawsuits are bullshit, you know it, I know it, we all know it..

And it makes it bad for all of the Legit lawsuits that are meant to keep the real bullshit against us in place..

Doctors have made medicine a business.. someone need to keep them in check

My old childhood Doc was a great guy, who did the best he could do with the knowledge he could deal with at the time..

Many... (but not all) of today's Docs could care less about you, and want to do all they can to milk a dollar out of you even if it means operations that were not necessary.

Just my humble .02

I have to disagree that a "lot" of lawsuits are frivolous, unless we're just arguing about semantics (definition of a "lot"). Trial Court Judges and juries do sometimes get carried away (and those are the ones we hear about), but practically all of those cases get corrected on appeal. Lots of time they're settled on appeal for much, much less than the jury awarded.

Every State and Federal Court has some form of "Rule 11". That's the Rule against frivolous lawsuits. And Judges, particularly Federal Judges, really punish the parties and lawyers bringing such suits.

When my State was considering tort reform (which did pass), a lobbyist for the insurance industry kept talking about "frivolous lawsuits" in his testimony before the committee. The lobbyist used the term so often that the chairman of the committee asked him for some actual cases in our State that were frivolous. The lobbyist couldn't name any. The chairman told the lobbyist that the committe would hear more testimony from him if he could come back with an example. The lobbyist never returned.

Remember this, too: Juries are hard to fool. Consider the O.J. Simpson and the Casey Anthony cases. Although those verdicts were roundly criticized, they were legally correct...the evidence to convict just wasn't there.

[Doug28450]

Originally Posted by aerovette

March 2007 - A recent study by Healthgrades found out that preventable medical errors have caused up to almost 100,000 new deaths every year, making it considered a national epidemic.

In 2007, the figures available from the Centers for Disease Control, 31,224 people died from gun injuries.

Undertakers win either way.

fify

[bierbelly]

...anxiously awaiting the usual chorus of anti-lawyer posts, about how doctors are so damned good and lawyers are suing them for no reason...

[CP]

Originally Posted by island14

Many... (but not all) of today's Docs could care less about you,

If they could care less, how much less would they care, then??

[MEC5LADY]

I am sure there are a lot of malpractice incidents since the potential is always there when you have the human element involved. Some things that would be interesting to find out ......

1. How has incidents increased/decreased in the last 15 yrs since hospitals have decreased staffing and a lot of departments run short most of the time.

2. How many incidents have increased/decreased since DRG's started and patients were coded according to their diagnosis and given a time limit on hospital stays

3. How many incidents have increased/decreased since insurance companies were allowed to start dictating pretty much everything from medications, doctors, tests and length of stay.

While some of these are no brainers it's obvious that common sense does not prevail and some entities have way too much control over things they shouldn't have control over.

[JRD77VET]

Originally Posted by bierbelly

...anxiously awaiting the usual chorus of anti-lawyer posts, about how doctors are so damned good and lawyers are suing them for no reason...

Disappointed nobody took your baiting?

[ft laud mike]

Originally Posted by lspencer534

Most lawsuits aren't frivolous, particularly medical malpractice cases. It's hard to convince a jury that a doctor has been negligent; they want clear evidence that it happened.

People who study these things estimate that almost 100,000 people a year are negligently killed by doctors and hospitals. That's over 3 times the number of people who die in auto accidents each year.

Originally Posted by bierbelly

...anxiously awaiting the usual chorus of anti-lawyer posts, about how doctors are so damned good and lawyers are suing them for no reason...

Not going to happen, Dr's routinely kill people through negligence, but nothing happens except a "peer review board", so they can learn from the mistake...feckin BS. If the police acted like this, I couldn't imagine the outrage... oh but Dr do no harm and police are bad.

[bierbelly]

Originally Posted by JRD77VET

Disappointed nobody took your baiting?

Yeah, a little. I guess I've got to learn to do this better. I posted the [/thread] link first.