Stolen car leads to high speed pursuit

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by GixxerBill RIP

There was recent C7 Z06 chase and the dude evaded not only the police helicopters but also all the news copters with their military grade cameras by driving into downtown LA and losing them in the cluster of skyscrapers.

He hid in a parking garage.

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/...postcount=2923

[Loco Vette]

Originally Posted by theandies

I don't get why we allow law enforcement to participate in these high speed pursuits endangering everyone around them.
Use the ****ing radio and air units. You can catch these assholes without high speed pursuits.

No pursuit, lose sight of the car, lose the ability to identify the driver.

[LATB]

That chase through that busy highway traffic was insane.

I'm on the fence on the issue of high speed chase. Of all the policies around the country that are "for the public good", this one seems to be off the table for discussion.

I like to see them catch the thief, but at what cost? The car was stolen from a dealer who obviously has insurance. So in a way who cares? Especially since there was a good chance of property damage and even injury or fatality of the other drivers on the road.

[ptindall]

Originally Posted by zeek

If these low life know they will not be chased, they will just become more brazen.

Fact. Run them down, charge them with every law broken along the way, put them away forever.

[Loco Vette]

Originally Posted by LATB

The car was stolen from a dealer who obviously has insurance. So in a way who cares? Especially since there was a good chance of property damage and even injury or fatality of the other drivers on the road.

That approach teaches the perpetrator that as long as you run there are no consequences. This encourages more of the same. Insurers impose deductibles, so the insured still has a loss. Insurers are not in the business to lose money, so rates go up for everyone who pays for insurance. I am willing to bet that most of this site would not support devices that would monitor and shut down vehicles or the police state that would be necessary to have enough cameras everywhere to always catch the perp without pursuits, so I challenge you to propose an effective, viable alternative to pursuits.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Loco Vette

That approach teaches the perpetrator that as long as you run there are no consequences. This encourages more of the same. Insurers impose deductibles, so the insured still has a loss. Insurers are not in the business to lose money, so rates go up for everyone who pays for insurance. I am willing to bet that most of this site would not support devices that would monitor and shut down vehicles or the police state that would be necessary to have enough cameras everywhere to always catch the perp without pursuits, so I challenge you to propose an effective, viable alternative to pursuits.

I understand and mostly agree.
But I think most would change their opinion if they were hurt or a loved one was killed as a result of a high speed chase.

[Loco Vette]

Originally Posted by LATB

I understand and mostly agree.
But I think most would change their opinion if they were hurt or a loved one was killed as a result of a high speed chase.

But if the perp was running away without consequences because they knew the police were scared to enforce the law and someone dies, the opinions would swing the other way. Given this choice I choose teaching the thugs that actions have consequences.

[ricks327]

Originally Posted by GixxerBill RIP

You would have to live in a piss poor town if it can’t afford at least one police helicopter

And you are clueless.

[Bill]

It's a tough call, and that's from a libertarian who sees most things as completely black or white. I think the compromise no one is happy about that makes sense is, chase for serious crimes, murder, rape, bank robbery, car theft, etc. but end things if it starts getting dangerous for ticky tack traffic infractions, burned out tail light, speeding, window tint, etc.

[zsr22]

Originally Posted by LATB

I understand and mostly agree.
But I think most would change their opinion if they were hurt or a loved one was killed as a result of a high speed chase.

I am of the opinion punishments should deter criminal behavior, not encourage it. Throw the book at anyone fleeing and endangering the lives of others. Mandatory 10 years. And if they still decide to run, then at least civilized society won't have to deal with them for another decade while they are behind bars.

[Millenium Vette]

Originally Posted by LATB

That chase through that busy highway traffic was insane.

I'm on the fence on the issue of high speed chase. Of all the policies around the country that are "for the public good", this one seems to be off the table for discussion.

I like to see them catch the thief, but at what cost? The car was stolen from a dealer who obviously has insurance. So in a way who cares? Especially since there was a good chance of property damage and even injury or fatality of the other drivers on the road.

Well, I'm sure the dealer cares. His deductible is likely $2,500+. His rates might go up or his policy canceled. He's probably not sold on the salesman who handed the keys to the thief either. Should have never happened.

[Tikiman]

Run them down and shoot them when you catch them. That way, you know they won't be doing it again. Claim that your body cam was made by the same people who made the cameras watching Epstein and they "malfunctioned". If Hillary can do it, surely the cops can as well.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Millenium Vette

Well, I'm sure the dealer cares. His deductible is likely $2,500+. His rates might go up or his policy canceled. He's probably not sold on the salesman who handed the keys to the thief either. Should have never happened.

I understand and as I posted mostly agree. But is the possible life of an innocent driver/passenger who gets caught up in it worth it?

[zsr22]

Originally Posted by LATB

I understand and as I posted mostly agree. But is the possible life of an innocent driver/passenger who gets caught up in it worth it?

I'm glad you feel this way. Now, where is this nice new house you're building with all the equipment and tools you won't mind being stolen because you have insurance.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by zsr22

I'm glad you feel this way. Now, where is this nice new house you're building with all the equipment and tools you won't mind being stolen because you have insurance.

I'm also glad I feel this way. I hate a thief as much as the next guy and would like to have seen the thug in the OP video shot before jumping into the water. But yes, I would gladly pay the insurance deductible for something stolen than someone injured or killed.

[ptindall]

Originally Posted by LATB

I understand and as I posted mostly agree. But is the possible life of an innocent driver/passenger who gets caught up in it worth it?

You are looking at each individual incident as if it happens in a vacuum rather than considering the policy that is best for society in the long run.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by ptindall

You are looking at each individual incident as if it happens in a vacuum rather than considering the policy that is best for society in the long run.

At the expense of innocent fatalities?

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by GixxerBill RIP

There was recent C7 Z06 chase and the dude evaded not only the police helicopters but also all the news copters with their military grade cameras by driving into downtown LA and losing them in the cluster of skyscrapers. Pretty impressive they were able to hit 175 MPH considering they were driving in LA traffic, it must have had the Z07 ceramic brake package

The C7Z is EASILY the greatest automobile ever produced in The Milky Way Galaxy.

Its timeless good looks and lines, superior fit and finish, unsurpassed pwer-to-weight ratio and epic drivetrain is what ALL OTHER car makers aspire to be.

As an owner, with the Z07 package, with man pedal, I can attest of the 50+ incidents with the local police, and state troopers, not a one was ever able to corral me to mete out a sentence.

If you want to own a car that will make all on The View drop their panties, this is the one, nothing comes close, nothing ever will, in 20 years BJ will be selling them for $30+M.

[ptindall]

Originally Posted by LATB

At the expense of innocent fatalities?

You assume that allowing criminals to escape whenever they run results in fewer innocent victims in the long run? Probably a bad assumption.

[Bill]

Those of you still posting at the bad place, please feel free to share this important anecdote over there. Report back.