So, I got the free Full Self driving trial this morning

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

So, there is always a bathroom right beside the highway. It's not possible that you have to go 1 or 2 lights to get to one. We like to combine food and bathroom stops whenever possible. Works out great for our travel style.. You travel the way you like to travel and we travel the way we like to travel and we have always travelled that way. We always had longer stops for food on long trips.

Great. I don't care how you travel.

The problem is you keep saying stupid shit like "refusing drinks" to kids to go longer between stops, making claims that include things like "normal people", and claiming that your way of sitting in fast food restaurants every 3 hours somehow represents that "normal"... which it absolutely does not.

NORMAL people can go more than 3 hours between f**king fast food meals. NORMAL people don't claim to enjoy sitting in McDonalds while their kids play on their phones. NORMAL people don't need to stop for an hour every 2 hours to take a piss.

Travel however you want. Again, I don't care, but stop trying to spin your f**ked up travel habits to somehow minimize and dismiss the fact that your "six figure" car can't come even remotely close to doing what any ICE car on the planet has been able to do for decades.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

I actually increased my speed right there from72 to 75.. This was a 60 mph zone but flow of traffic was 75, so I went 75.

Still FSD did nothing to get away from the other car. When I was in Driver's Ed they taught us to maintain a space cushion around our cars while driving. Clearly none of the drivers whose data trained FSD ever took Driver's Ed.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by jw38

Here's a fact. The public doesn't want to be endangered by your beta self-driving weapon.



Which proves 2 things:
1. You're not maintaining control of the vehicle
2. You're a ****ing arrogant moron for doing so



See #1 & 2 above. You're actually willing to endanger your children with beta self-driving software.

I don't give a **** what you think.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

Great. I don't care how you travel.

The problem is you keep saying stupid shit like "refusing drinks" to kids to go longer between stops, making claims that include things like "normal people", and claiming that your way of sitting in fast food restaurants every 3 hours somehow represents that "normal"... which it absolutely does not.

NORMAL people can go more than 3 hours between f**king fast food meals. NORMAL people don't claim to enjoy sitting in McDonalds while their kids play on their phones. NORMAL people don't need to stop for an hour every 2 hours to take a piss.

Travel however you want. Again, I don't care, but stop trying to spin your f**ked up travel habits to somehow minimize and dismiss the fact that your "six figure" car can't come even remotely close to doing what any ICE car on the planet has been able to do for decades.

Again, I have outlined a million times that I have done the same exact 1350 mile road trip (each way) at least 15 times and 13 of those times with ICE and we always arrived around the same time at our destination. You can talk about your own driving habits but not the habits of others. While there are no official statistics on it, I would bet that most people who drive 1000 miles or so in a day will have about 2 hours of stopped time.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by jw38

Which proves 2 things:
1. You're not maintaining control of the vehicle
2. You're a ****ing arrogant moron for doing so

But, it was on the highway. Not much bad can happen on the highway...

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

You can talk about your own driving habits but not the habits of others.

You're the one that keeps claiming he is speaking for "normal" people and making stupid f**king statements like the rest of us are "refusing drinks" to our kids...

I'm not the one saying that absolutely stupid shit. You are.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

But, it was on the highway. Not much bad can happen on the highway...

When I got my first Tesla in May of 2021, I was very cautious with Autopilot and didn't trust it. After a few months, the trust level went up and now, I would trust it with my life as long as I travel in the middle lane (which I do when driving on autopilot)

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

You're the one that keeps claiming he is speaking for "normal" people... not me.

If normal people just stop for bathroom and gas, all those sit down restaurants along major routes would go bankrupt. As I said before, every single time I stop at a Restaurant OF ANY KIND during breakfast, lunch or dinner time, it's usually packed, especially on busy travel weekends. If not the majority, MANY people have longer stops on long road trips.

[jw38]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

I don't give a **** what you think.

Good...just don't bring your beta self-driving weapon anywhere near me or my family. You're free to endanger your family, but you're not free to endanger mine.

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

When I got my first Tesla in May of 2021, I was very cautious with Autopilot and didn't trust it. After a few months, the trust level went up and now, I would trust it with my life as long as I travel in the middle lane (which I do when driving on autopilot)

You can trust it all you want with you're life, but you're not free to trust it with mine or my family's.

[GrandSportC3]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

You're the one that keeps claiming he is speaking for "normal" people and making stupid f**king statements like the rest of us are "refusing drinks" to our kids...

I'm not the one saying that absolutely stupid shit. You are.

There is no way that a car with 4 people who all consume normal amounts of liquid while traveling can go 500 miles without stopping for a bathroom break.. I would find it hard to believe that 400 miles is doable.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

When I got my first Tesla in May of 2021, I was very cautious with Autopilot and didn't trust it. After a few months, the trust level went up and now, I would trust it with my life as long as I travel in the middle lane (which I do when driving on autopilot)

Yes, because YOUR trust in Tesla is something I care about...

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

There is no way that a car with 4 people who all consume normal amounts of liquid while traveling can go 500 miles without stopping for a bathroom break.. I would find it hard to believe that 400 miles is doable.

No, I don't usually make it that far with the kids. The difference is that I can stop for 5 minutes or less at a rest area or any exit that I pass and be back on the road as opposed to you sitting for an hour every 200 miles.

What in the actual f**k part of that is beyond your comprehension? Holy shit. It's really not that difficult to understand.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by jw38

Good...just don't bring your beta self-driving weapon anywhere near me or my family. You're free to endanger your family, but you're not free to endanger mine.

You can trust it all you want with you're life, but you're not free to trust it with mine or my family's.

You and your family are more likely to be taken out by a human driver who is texting, drunk, or just plain incompetent than by a "beta self-driving weapon."

[LATB]

Originally Posted by GrandSportC3

Don't forget that we travel with kids..

I could never travel that way.

[GixxerBill RIP]

Not only do you get range anxiety buying a Tesla but also the search for a charging station that wasn't raped by a feral minority

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

You and your family are more likely to be taken out by a human driver who is texting, drunk, or just plain incompetent than by a "beta self-driving weapon."

And your point is what, exactly? This thread was started to describe GSC3’s experience with a beta test version of FSD, including problems he’s finding. Now he admits to trusting it with his life and posting here while the car drives itself. Apparently those problems he found magically fixed themselves.

[Vandelay Industries]

FSD rocks!

YouTube (Short URL)

[jw38]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

You and your family are more likely to be taken out by a human driver who is texting, drunk, or just plain incompetent than by a "beta self-driving weapon."

Well no kidding, because there are infinately more non-self-driving cars on the road being "driven" by incompetants, drunks and people texting today. That doesn't change the fact that I don't even more idiots operating self-driving vehicles on the roadways.

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

What do you suspect would happen based on your use of it. I'm genuinely curious.

I'm not convinced any software will ever replace human reasoning to drive a car. Why? How can FSD recognize another driver, or a pedestrian, wave them through a light or intersection? What if a sign gets knocked over? What happens when there's a power outage and lights don't work? There are myriad scenarios where a human can use reason and logic to get through something safely, where software doesn't have that capability.

Key word to add to your last sentence is yet. Software will have that capability at some point and is already getting close.

YouTube

[cptlo306]

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries

FSD rocks!

https://youtu.be/qeA96SGxS2M?si=nkHmbCYI74Ff1ovw

That isn't a Tesla.