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I paid $99.00 to use the FSD for a month. I enjoyed it very much except for a few problems. Most here simply want to argue with EV drivers about things other than FSD on EVs. I found the experience like a one-trick pony. It was fun, amazing, and scary - all at once. I wouldn't take my hands off the steering wheel for a second. BUT once you verbally tell the car where you want to go, it gets you there. Stops at red lights. Starts when the light turns green when yoiu're the first in line or when the cars in front of you start. Changes lanes when traffic in the lane you are in is going too slow.Turns on turn signal when changing, when it's getting off at an exit and does it safely.
Now saying all that I wouldn't get in the back seat and let the car drive itself. I had a couple of phantom braking occurences when the road ahead presented some unusual situattions. On one occasion when going down the road, a carwwas turning left and crossing my lane about 400 yards in front of me and my car started braking - not slamming on the brakes but slowing down when nnot expected. The other braking problem I experienced was on a divided highway with a street coming from the right. Also there was a vegetable vendor just off my lane also about 400 yds ahead with cars around it off the road.. My car started braking, vearing left and right slightly while the FSD driving was trying to figure out what was in front of it. It was no where near what you could say was out of control - more like an old lady driver. Neither event was dangerous, just unexpected. I took control each time, and I'm sure that the car would have returned to regular speed had I not took over. No danger at all. Getting on and off the highway, making turns when it should have, speeding up and slowing down perfectly was fun. Quote:
There were a couple of lanes barricaded during my trip and the car handled everyone perfectly. Cones, Jersey barricades, etc were all handled just as I would have steered though them. It does make you nervous when it is doing the actual driving though. Quote:
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Phantom braking still exists but not when you simply are driving down the road. It never slammed the brakes on but slowed down quickly. There has to be something going on that would cause you to slowdown yourself without FSD. Quote:
I'd call phantom braking slowing down quickly and safely. All this being said I did not renew it for the next month. Too much of a novelty now. Plus my AH was puckered up much of the time, worried that the car would simply drive off the road, or into the car ahead of you. BUT it never did anything stupid or dangerous. AT 80 mph with a semi on my left and barricades making you merge on my right it handled well but I was ready to takeover in an instant - not relaxing. My most obvious bitch was that the car wouldn't go faster than the speed limit until I discovered how to adjust it to do so. Once I set it up it would go as fast as the car in front of me, or if that car was going slower than I wanted, it automatically changed lanes, sped up to my set speed, and continued down the road very safely. ![]() |
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Look at that... someone came along and gave an actual honest assessment and first hand information with positive and negative aspects as opposed to dismissing all of the negatives or twisting and deflecting them into some asinine strawman.
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Again most are done remotely either via a mailout package or through electronic signatures via DocuSign or a similar program. If you believe that there is a possibility that what you were sent for review prior to closing is different, then you should absolutely read the documents before signing. How many real estate closings have you been a party to? And how long ago was your last closing? |
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Edit.. just did the math. It was about 20 closings. |
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![]() 20 closings is probably above average for most. ![]() I’ve done 20 in a year. Most years that I’ve been active I see 10-12. It has slowed and I’ll probably close under 10 this year. I’m actually ok with that, I’m plenty busy building. |
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At this point, I drove over 600 miles already on FSD (had family visiting and I had to pick them up and drop them off at the airport).
So far, the system drivers very safe with little intervention needed BUT it's still far from perfect. Other than the school zone limit which is a serious flaw, one complaint is that the car tries to hog the left lane.. I set the speed limit offset to 10%, so I'm going 77 mph in a 70 mph limit.. The car will always try to go into the left lane to pass cars and then does not go back to the middle lane. Based on Florida law, the left lane is to PASS and you should always move back to the center or right lane whenever you are not passing and the lane right of you is not blocked. Another minor issue is that FSD seems way to cautious. I like to go on yellow if there is enough time to get through the intersection on yellow. However, FSD sides on the side of caution and slows down and will stop at the light even though there was enough time to complete the turn before turning red. Also, left turns take a lot longer than a human pilot would take. System is very cautious when making turns with oncoming traffic. I sometimes lose my patience and take over as FSD takes too long to make up it's mind. Overall, from a safety perspective, FSD did fine except for the school zone issue. I personally wouldn't have the patience to wait to make a turn at a intersection without a light if there is a lot of traffic. At this state, I personally would not pay for it but considering the progress, the system is A LOT better than it was a year ago when it was the last time that I used it. It's progressing nicely. Most of my interventions were because I either lost patience or school zones but other than that, it does a pretty good job. No close calls. It recognizes pedestrians very well and drives accordingly. Still some work to be done but there is progress and the system is getting better . Drove through several construction zones without any issues. |
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Here's another real world situation I wonder how FSD would handle. This is on a two lane highway where the speed limit is 45 mph. There's a walking/biking trail that crosses it. If the flashing lights are not on or there isn't anyone waiting to cross you don't have to slow down. If the lights are flashing or there are people waiting to cross, you must stop. There's also a red stop sign on the warning sign on the right, but it simply shows where to stop if it's required.
What would FSD do here? . |
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Most of them drive exactly the speed limit in the middle lane... because if they go the speed that they would need to go in order to actually pass somebody, their range goes to negative shit.
This is a chart from Tesla.com for the Model S. ![]() https://www.tesla.com/blog/driving-range-model-s-family The sitting and not turning thing, however, is spot on for them. |
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Damn, I didn't realize the range dropped that fast as speed increased. And that's with HVAC off, which most drivers don't do. I guess that's why I don't see a lot of Teslas on I-70 in Utah where the speed limit is 80 (and most traffic is going 85-90) and it can be a long way between chargers.
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