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03-28-2024, 9:16pm | #21 | |||||||
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Not long before I retired and was at the office downtown, some guy was causing trouble and assaulted someone. I happened to be walking back from lunch and watched it all from maybe 15-20 ft away. Cops are wrestling this guy trying to cuff him. Some moron driving by with apparently a dislike for police stops his car right in the busy street. He gets out and starts filming it all with his phone. He gets in the way and they told him several times to back off. He had his chances. Finally they take him down. Suddenly we hear "Daddy, daddy!" Stupid ass stops the car in a busy street, gets out to film and leaves his 5 year old kid in the car. He gets hauled away and Child Protection shows up and takes the kid. Then a month later, I get stuck in a deposition over it all. |
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I’m way too far along in life to give a fiddlers **** about stupid ****s and the shitstorms their stupidity brings down on them. Make a cops life difficult and be prepared to suffer the consequences, simple as, end of story. Encounters with the police are a test of common sense, and the dipshit losers in these cop block videos most often fail the test. |
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Dressed like that. No badges. No ID. Yeah, that’s credible. |
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Difference from your story and the video is the old dude was on his own property and told the cop to leave his property, which is his perogative. |
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If they were actual FBI agents, their boss should remind them to provide ID but if they showed it beforehand, showing it a 2nd time is that not difficult either. |
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Like Lou said, some people just love to create a situation with the police because of their anti-cop beliefs. |
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BTW, the homeowner was unquestionably a dick. |
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He clearly didn't have consent to be there. He didn't have a warrant. So he must have had a recognized exception to the warrant requirement. What exception did he qualify for? This really doesn't seem like hot pursuit (hot pursuit of people peddling door to door without a permit?) He was driving around looking for the people, he didn't seem to have chased them to the property. Was there an emergency aid exception? Exigent circumstances? Life or property was in danger if he didn't stay on the old guy's property? What, exactly. gave him the right to stay on the curtilage of the old guy's house? If I did that, it would be trespass after warning, a crime. I don't understand what was so compelling that the cop really had no choice but to to beat the **** out of an old man and cause him to have a heart issue, rather than, as you say, ask the peddlers to come out to the street to investigate them. He wasn't too concerned about making sure they weren't fleeing the scene, he got caught up with the property owner instead, and the old guy became his focus. That whole scene reminded me of Michael Douglas in the movie Falling Down, when he's walking through the golf course. The old guy is gasping on the ground, asking for his pills, and Michael Douglas taunts him.....shouldn't have been a dick to me and I wouldn't have to have given you what probably was a fatal heart attack. |
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There was reasonable belief that the two were committing a crime in the presence of the officer. The old man escalated the event. Once the old man escalated the event, the officer should have had the 2 move to the street to either cite them or arrest them, whatever the department procedure called for.
Take a common sense look at the event. What is so offensive with a LEO standing on your driveway investigating a potential crime? The old man changed the whole event into a confrontation over a LEO standing on his property. Is this something you would do? My guess there were other contacts the old man had with the PD. Saw many dickheads like this over 40+ years. |
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The old fella learned he ain’t taking anyones head off .. tough lesson for him. Oilton is a tiny Oklahoma town and struggle to keep a policeman on patrol.
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I don't think it matters much, I have no problem with the officer doing his job, and RAS is good enough for me to have him investigate. But I'm pretty sure that the LEO had neither RAS nor PC on the homeowner, so when the homeowner said he wanted the LEO off his property, I'm not sure what the officer was thinking by not stepping off the property and continuing his investigation at the side of the road. All that said, there was ZERO reason for the homeowner to threaten to physically harm the officer. This is another case of two dicks colliding out in space, and bad things happen. I do have an expectation that LEOs behave professionally when on the job, and this officer failed to do that. |
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For clarification, I never said the old man was wrong asking the officer to leave but he escalated the event for some unknown reason. It wasn't like the officer was beating the old man's wife.
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That cop should have been murdered. He had no warrant and was asked many times to leave the man’s property.
**** the cop. |
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**** Civil Rights Lawyers. **** Slewfoot, too.
That said, 99% of the time, I side with the Police. Not this time. The cop had no warrant and no right to physically restrain the homeowner. The cop was obligated, by law, to leave the very first time the homeowner requested it. Interesting that this burg had no police force at all a couple month's prior. I smell a lawsuit, but no reward as I don't think there are any assets to turn over to this old guy. (the victim) |
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You **** with the bull and you're going to get the horns.
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