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Old 02-28-2024, 10:58am   #21
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There are some huge fires blazing through Texas right now, covering a massive area. It's been all over the news. Hopefully, they can get them under control soon.
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You're govoner is bussing your problem into the remainder of the US.

But nothing to see here!
Naah, only to the places where people vote for politicians who encourage the problem.
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TX is just letting nature clear the lines of sight so they can more easily achieve overlapping fields of enfilading fire when they finally tell DC to go **** themselves and secure their own southern border.
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That's a lot of reading between the lines.

I don't see my comment as any more political than posts 2,3,7or 8, which is to say I don't think any of them were political at all. Maybe a I raised the volume a little, meh.

I thought we were just giving each other a hard time.
It's all good. I just get frustrated because there is no real opposition to the Left.
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Naah, only to the places where people vote for politicians who encourage the problem.
Because these criminal aliens would never seek out conservative neighborhoods once shipped elsewhere.
Brilliant!

TX govoner, and other states govoners are only making the situation worse in the long run. Any US citizen supporting providing transportation to bus illegals ANYWHERE is a fool...at best.
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Your govoner, and other states govoners are only making the situation worse in the long run. Any US citizen supporting providing transportation to bus illegals ANYWHERE is a fool...at best.

So what should TX do, let 'em in and support 'em? Border security and control is not the responsibility of the states, it's specifically a fed gov responsitility.

Count me in as a fool for supporting TX bussing them to the cities that voted to grant them sanctuary.
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Because these criminal aliens would never seek out conservative neighborhoods once shipped elsewhere.
Brilliant!

Your govoner, and other states govoners are only making the situation worse in the long run. Any US citizen supporting providing transportation to bus illegals ANYWHERE is a fool...at best.
Ultimately, you're correct. What Abbott is doing, is a combo of trying to stop illegals from entering, AND shipping the ones that do make it to leftist utopias, so those folks, Chicago, NYC, Martha's Vineyard, Kamala's temporary pad in D.C., etc. can have their noses rubbed in what they're pushing.

Of course it would be better to simply repel and remove every one encountered, but Texas can't do that, even with the token help from states like FL and Missouri and others.

It will be interesting to see the "provenance" of these illegals, as they're caught doing horrific crimes like the nursing student murder. How did they get here (NGO's, cartels) and how did they move around the country. Did Abbott send that POS to NYC? Did Brandon? And once he fled NYC for Georgia, how did he get there? Who paid for that?
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So what should TX do, let 'em in and support 'em? Border security and control is not the responsibility of the states, it's specifically a fed gov responsitility.

Count me in as a fool for supporting TX bussing them to the cities that voted to grant them sanctuary.
It's not like these same states haven't had decades to sort this chit out.

Cuba/FL was how long ago?
Yet nobody learned anything... But but but it's the OTHER teams fault!

The government has failed to do their one job...period. On/at EVERY level!
Party be dammed!
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It's not like these same states haven't had decades to sort this chit out.

Cuba/FL was how long ago?
Yet nobody learned anything... But but but it's the OTHER teams fault!

The government has failed to do their one job...period. On/at EVERY level!
Party be dammed!

States can't "sort it out." States don't have the authority to close international borders. States don't have the authority to decide who can and can't enter the country. Etc. Etc. Etc. The fed gov has absolutely failed, but one state shouldn't take the brunt of bad decisions made by other states/cities.
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Ultimately, you're correct. What Abbott is doing, is a combo of trying to stop illegals from entering, AND shipping the ones that do make it to leftist utopias, so those folks, Chicago, NYC, Martha's Vineyard, Kamala's temporary pad in D.C., etc. can have their noses rubbed in what they're pushing.

Of course it would be better to simply repel and remove every one encountered, but Texas can't do that, even with the token help from states like FL and Missouri and others.

It will be interesting to see the "provenance" of these illegals, as they're caught doing horrific crimes like the nursing student murder. How did they get here (NGO's, cartels) and how did they move around the country. Did Abbott send that POS to NYC? Did Brandon? And once he fled NYC for Georgia, how did he get there? Who paid for that?

TX can't stop them? So why have government AT ALL??
Perhaps get off your collective asses and do something? Oh wait...your waiting on the ones that caused the issue to now actually solve the problems THEY created
Sounds smart!
And some claim progressives are the ignorant ones.
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States can't "sort it out." States don't have the authority to close international borders. States don't have the authority to decide who can and can't enter the country. Etc. Etc. Etc. The fed gov has absolutely failed, but one state shouldn't take the brunt of bad decisions made by other states/cities.
States can't do anything?
That's what your cowardly "so-called" leadership wants you to believe.
And they'll vote for these same do-nothing, bs artist cowards come Nov...wait for it!
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TX can't stop them? So why have government AT ALL??

No, border security and immigration is specifically a fed gov responsibility. States are not allowed to do what they want with international borders. TX tried and lost in court.
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Because these criminal aliens would never seek out conservative neighborhoods once shipped elsewhere.
Brilliant!

TX govoner, and other states govoners are only making the situation worse in the long run. Any US citizen supporting providing transportation to bus illegals ANYWHERE is a fool...at best.
Their not illegal. Your government lets them in and granted them an amnesty hearing at some future date...if they can find them.
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Same crap happened when they let the Irish in.

55% of those arrested NYC in the 1850s were Irish-born

35% of the prostitutes arrested in NYC in 1858 were Irish-born

70% of all admissions to Bellevue Hospital (NYC’s public hospital) in the 1850s were Irish

85% of foreign-born admissions to Bellevue Hospital (NYC’s public hospital) in the 1850s were Irish

63% of foreign-born admissions to the NYC Alms House (Poor House) 1849-1858 were Irish

56% of all prison NYC Prison commitments in 1858 were Irish-born

74% of foreign-born prison NYC Prison commitments in 1858 were Irish-born

70% of persons convicted of disorderly conduct NYC Courts of Special Sessions, 1859, were Irish-born

74% of persons convicted of drunk and disorderly conduct NYC Courts of Special Sessions, 1859, were Irish-born
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States can't do anything?
That's what your cowardly "so-called" leadership wants you to believe.
And they'll vote for these same do-nothing, bs artist cowards come Nov...wait for it!
The US Gov't took down the floating barriers and now they're taking out the razor wire. What's your plan?
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No, border security and immigration is specifically a fed gov responsibility. States are not allowed to do what they want with international borders. TX tried and lost in court.
I think the point here is that it's past time that the states exert their sovereign authority and tell the FedGov to go pound sand. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

"They lost in court." Adhering to judicial supremacy is a losing game. When the Left loses in the courts they ignore it and do what they want.

The Supreme Court has zero enforcement powers. The legislature can override anything the Supreme Court does or says.

"To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy." - Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:277
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No, border security and immigration is specifically a fed gov responsibility. States are not allowed to do what they want with international borders. TX tried and lost in court.
It's far past time citizens of border states start defending their territory in SPITE of what rouge courts, judges, governments etc attempt to force upon them.
There is no "other entity" that will improve the current dilemma period. None, nada, zip, zero.

The feds have broken every single promise while raping the countries resources. Claiming the feds are the only ones that can fix this invasion mess is just a pathetic cop out...sorry.
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It's not like these same states haven't had decades to sort this chit out.

Cuba/FL was how long ago?

Yet nobody learned anything... But but but it's the OTHER teams fault!

The government has failed to do their one job...period. On/at EVERY level!
Party be dammed!
Another serious **** up of Jimmy (the Jerk) Carter. Democrat of course!
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The US Gov't took down the floating barriers and now they're taking out the razor wire. What's your plan?

Citizens of the invading state take up arms...it's really simple.
Put your ****ing money where your mouth is..in other words.
Cuz I'm fairly certain TX citizens have more balls than bussing the problem elsewhere. No??
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