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Old 12-14-2023, 6:40am   #81
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I understand the distrust of hospitals. Btdt. But with y’all’s circumstances could she stay another day or two? A case manager should be reviewing the discharge plans with you. We have used an agency to sit with the m-i-l and with my dad for several hours during day or night after hospital stay. They had three levels of care. Sitter, lpn, rn. And yes it was very expensive. Hospital /dr may recommend home health care but that would only be a short visit a few times a week. Continued prayers and best wishes.
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Hopefully that's the end of the drama for your wife and she can start recovering. Best for her to be home IMO as let's face it they don't let you sleep.

Check insurance they may pay for home nurse care at least for a while.
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Check insurance they may pay for home nurse care at least for a while.
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I have a major distrust of hospitals. I keep thinking about my friend Amy who had heart surgery and ended up on life support for 91 days until she passed. This woman was fit, successful and just 52 years old. She always turned heads when she entered a room. She was the strongest person I ever met. Mentally, physically, willfully.

But even she could not survive the hospital. I can’t believe it’s been 8 years.
I always look at the cv of any prospective health care provider. I found a red flag that I will not violate.

If the CV includes ANY school I saw advertising on tv, I run away.

The problem with the hospital is you typically have no choice in an emergency. My mom died in a rehab during COVID after a fall. ****ers made me talk to her through a window.

Much like other university programs, medicine has also been infected with chosen doctrine.
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Hope all goes well Pete. Crappy news that I hate to hear though. Hang tough.
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I always look at the cv of any prospective health care provider. I found a red flag that I will not violate.

If the CV includes ANY school I saw advertising on tv, I run away.

The problem with the hospital is you typically have no choice in an emergency. My mom died in a rehab during COVID after a fall. ****ers made me talk to her through a window.

Much like other university programs, medicine has also been infected with chosen doctrine.
Damn. Sorry for your loss. I had a similar situation at the height of the Wu flu hysteria. Relative was recommended to go from hospital to a SNF for a couple weeks to get strength back. OK, they let me take relative inside get set up in room, but, just like at the hospital, warned that once I left, I wouldn't be allowed back in to visit. Went back the next day, they did the "we'll open the patient's window and you can stand outside and talk." Stupid, but OK. Same for second day. Third day, "we can lift the blinds on the tinted window, but we won't open it." I guess we're supposed to shout through the glass. Oh, you can call the room phone and talk that way.

Meanwhile, they wouldn't let the patients out of their rooms, meaning, no visits to the therapy rooms to use the equipment, etc. Relative wasn't handling this well, basically being held in solitary confinement, crying and wailing. I called them and told them I was removing relative to bring back to my house.

"Oh, you can't do that, against medical advice, etc." I'll be there in an hour, either have relative at the door packed up and ready, or I'll be coming in and getting the relative myself. Pick up was uneventful, but I heard other patients shouting in the background, presumably, also confined in solitary, in their rooms. Unconscionable how people were treated.

That was 4 days of Hell, I can't imagine putting relative through that for 2 weeks, separated from family and even from just the community of other patients/residents.
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I am sorry for my edit. Prayers to a safe and speedy recovery. All will be fine.
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Sorry to ask what might seem like stupid (and perhaps inappropriate) questions at this time but I might have some useful info for you two...

You mentioned she had ribs spread. So she had a thorocotomy or thoroscopic (called VATS) or robot assisted?
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Sorry to ask what might seem like stupid (and perhaps inappropriate) questions at this time but I might have some useful info for you two...

You mentioned she had ribs spread. So she had a thorocotomy or thoroscopic (called VATS) or robot assisted?
No robot. Laparoscopic. Lobectomy. Cardiac Thoracic Surgeon (same as my brother)
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She won’t be home today. Minor complications. Tomorrow is the day we hope.
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I understand the distrust of hospitals. Btdt. But with y’all’s circumstances could she stay another day or two? A case manager should be reviewing the discharge plans with you. We have used an agency to sit with the m-i-l and with my dad for several hours during day or night after hospital stay. They had three levels of care. Sitter, lpn, rn. And yes it was very expensive. Hospital /dr may recommend home health care but that would only be a short visit a few times a week. Continued prayers and best wishes.
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Don’t have the resources for that so I’m it. I will look into insurance covered home care although I’ll be here anyway. Thank you.
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Both of you are still in my prayers
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No robot. Laparoscopic. Lobectomy. Cardiac Thoracic Surgeon (same as my brother)
Exact same procedure I had done back in April (right lower lobe too). PM me if you'd like to chat. I have ideas to help with comfort and recovery
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Damn. Sorry for your loss. I had a similar situation at the height of the Wu flu hysteria. Relative was recommended to go from hospital to a SNF for a couple weeks to get strength back. OK, they let me take relative inside get set up in room, but, just like at the hospital, warned that once I left, I wouldn't be allowed back in to visit. Went back the next day, they did the "we'll open the patient's window and you can stand outside and talk." Stupid, but OK. Same for second day. Third day, "we can lift the blinds on the tinted window, but we won't open it." I guess we're supposed to shout through the glass. Oh, you can call the room phone and talk that way.

Thanks Bill.

Meanwhile, they wouldn't let the patients out of their rooms, meaning, no visits to the therapy rooms to use the equipment, etc. Relative wasn't handling this well, basically being held in solitary confinement, crying and wailing. I called them and told them I was removing relative to bring back to my house.

"Oh, you can't do that, against medical advice, etc." I'll be there in an hour, either have relative at the door packed up and ready, or I'll be coming in and getting the relative myself. Pick up was uneventful, but I heard other patients shouting in the background, presumably, also confined in solitary, in their rooms. Unconscionable how people were treated.

That was 4 days of Hell, I can't imagine putting relative through that for 2 weeks, separated from family and even from just the community of other patients/residents.
Thanks Bill.

They finally let me in to see her when she had lost recognition of almost everybody but me and my wife. We had about 10 hours of that, then we watched her die over the next three days. The isolation did start about a month before. I think she just gave up because she was the most social person I ever knew.
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They finally let me in to see her when she had lost recognition of almost everybody but me and my wife. We had about 10 hours of that, then we watched her die over the next three days. The isolation did start about a month before. I think she just gave up because she was the most social person I ever knew.
Damn brother. I’m so sorry.
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Exact same procedure I had done back in April (right lower lobe too). PM me if you'd like to chat. I have ideas to help with comfort and recovery
She has a bubble under her skin when she coughs. They just took the chest tube out today. Her vitals are good but WTF might that be? Air in the sac around the lungs? A leak?
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She has a bubble under her skin when she coughs. They just took the chest tube out today. Her vitals are good but WTF might that be? Air in the sac around the lungs? A leak?
I know you said she had Laparoscopic but could they have pumped air in for expansion and room to work? That happened to me.

Back in 2009 I had an infection in the area of my Appendics. Anyway, they opened me up from my nuts up to my navel and I was in the Hospital for a few days.

On the last day or around that time frame, they told me I could not go home until I basically did some serious farting to get all the air and gas out from the surgery.

Could be something like that?
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Damn brother. I’m so sorry.
Not the goal Snik, but thank you.

Caregiver life can be hard both physically and psychologically. I see you're kinda in the corner on this one. Is nobody in Austin willing to give you some help? They're a freaking leftist town, so why can't you just go down and plead your case? This just sounds incredibly stupid to not provide needed care when that's what they pride themselves upon.

Now, if you're too proud to do so, get over it. If some river crosser gets help, then you should too.
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