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People might mistakenly think the COVID-19 vaccines will completely block infection, but the shots are mainly designed to prevent severe illness, says Louis Mansky, a virus researcher at the University of Minnesota. ...is the new/revised definition of a vaccine. NOT what we were taught in school. |
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At the time, we discussed measles vaccines and their failure rates. Some kids still got measles but it was known that they rarely got severely ill due to their vaccine. I’m sure you could Google it and find more examples. The vaccine fights the virus if your are infected. The effectiveness is based on many factors. It’s a fact that the covid vaccines are not as effective as they thought. But the way vaccines work (or fail) is the same. |
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In addition, although it was a meme, I saw a very true point made... If I got three smallpox vaccinations in 9 months and got smallpox, I'd be asking some questions. Whether, from a technical aspect, vaccines reduce illness or end the cycle of a virus, there is a layman's understanding for DECADES, that a vaccine's intention is to prevent a disease. No one, until Covid came along, ever challenged that notion. Why? Because it was widely accepted as true. It was not until Fauci and company, needed to defend themselves, that the definition changed and we were having the mindset revised. |
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I’m not interested in the layman’s understanding. I have my own brain. If people were disappointed about promises that shouldn't have made sense in the first place, that’s on them. |
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Vaccine A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. |
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And given the percentage of people who don't get the flu shots is about equal to the percentage of people who will not get the covid shot then this whole nonsense from Biden is just a monkey throwing crap. |
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Based on the Virologists and epidemiologists messaging Based on the Government's communication Based on the media's messaging Based on the dictionary definition of a vaccine... There was no reason to believe that cases of Covid would INCREASE, post vaccination. We were deceived and if, in 2019 or earlier, you believed anything about vaccines other than what was communicated, I am VERY sure you were in the vast minority. Never did I hear any doctor or scientist PRIOR to the release of the vaccine say "Hold on people, just so you know, the number of cases will likely increase even with a vaccine and people will still spread it even though they feel just fine". We were told herd immunity needed to be achieved and there were two paths. Illness and vaccination. Then it changed to only vaccination. Then it changed to an impossibility. Did they have this knowledge and withhold it? Did they somehow think we already knew better? |
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Long story short, there are hundreds of variants of the flu virus. Each year this group gets together and tries to figure out the four that are most likely to spread based on early information, and compose the vaccine to target those four. Every now and then they get caught by surprise and a different one takes the forefront, which is one of the reasons behind the "I got the shot and got the flu anyway" complaint. That plus people who don't get vaccinated, and the less-than-100% perfect that goes along with anything. |
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When my son was sick I kept him home from school and if I'm sick I stay home, screw work. Nobody ever said anything because i stayed home, probably grateful I was one of the few who did stay away. |
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Again, definitions get fuzzy and like the language of a law, there is the intention and then there is the technicalities that are exploited to avoid the ramification of violating it.
Taking the definition above, the next stop on the tour is the word "immunity" and the word "protection". Technically they are something different than what the "general understanding" is. If you slice and dice anything enough, car theft, murder, espionage, fraud, you can find a defense for it. That sure as hell doesn't make it acceptable. |
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The main reason is that the seasonal flu has nearly 30 active variations. They give you the vaccine for the 4 they think will be active that year. This year they got it wrong.
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And many,if not most HC workers are required to get the flu vax. |
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