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ApexOversteer
12-06-2015, 2:28pm
Is this where we riot and loot, because I am Kinda eyein' one of those massive curved TVs...


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Dramatic video captured by a bystander and uploaded to Instagram this morning captures a man being shot by Miami Beach Police officers in the middle of Alton Road.

The man had just held up a nearby Bank of America, Miami Beach Police say, and had armed himself with a straight razor from a barbershop before he was shot.

The confrontation started about 10:30 this morning when a hold-up alarm at the 1414 Alton Road Bank of America alerted police; the suspect said he was armed with a bomb, the teller told police.

When officers arrived, the suspect ran into a nearby barber shop and grabbed a straight-edge razor, says Det. Kathleen Prieto. "Shots were fired and the subject is deceased," she says in a statement.

Police have not released the man's name yet.

A video, uploaded by Marcellus Johnson, a Miami-based event photographer, shows the disturbing story unfolding. The video — shot in front of a framing store near 15th Terrace and Alton Road — shows a shirtless man clad in jeans walking down the middle of Alton Road toward officers with their weapons raised. Shortly after the man puts his hands on a police cruiser, one of the cops fires, and the man falls to the ground clutching his chest.

Johnson wrote this about the moment: "Miami Beach Police Officers tried to talk him down, but he just wouldn't cooperate. Early morning shenanigans on Miami Beach. I just want my coffee with 3 creams and 3 sugars."

Miami-Dade police will investigate the shooting, Prieto says. The FBI and MBPD will take on the bank robbery investigation. As police work the scene, Alton Road is closed to traffic between 15th and 16th streets.

DAB
12-06-2015, 2:33pm
razor...yes, it's a deadly weapon. police are generally trained that an attacker can cover 21 feet or so faster than they can draw and shoot one shot.

Bill
12-06-2015, 2:47pm
I'll wait on BLM to protest this clear evidence of police brutality to an upstanding criminal who was probably about to start college in January. This time, however, I'm going to lie down on the couch before holding my breath. Last time, I came to with a headache and a nasty bump on the head.

Pro tip: Never hold your breath while standing on a tile floor.

Fasglas
12-06-2015, 3:03pm
MIAMI BEACH POLICE GUN DOWN MAN

Video title. Nope, no bias there...

island14
12-06-2015, 3:06pm
The sure kilt him..

Hard to see what his other hand was doing but the one hand he had just put on the deck of the police car.

I don't see where he needed shot just yet.

ApexOversteer
12-06-2015, 3:08pm
The sure kilt him..

Hard to see what his other hand was doing but the one hand he had just put on the deck of the police car.

I don't see where he needed shot just yet.

I'm sure his claim of a bomb will come into it... "I thought he was reaching for a detonator"

DAB
12-06-2015, 3:12pm
having a razor in his hand and acting in an aggressive manner is sufficient. hell, even bare handed running toward the police would suffice. think you can't get beat to death with fists and feet?

ApexOversteer
12-06-2015, 3:31pm
Looking at it a few more times, and I can't exactly quantify it, but I think rifle guy misfired. I don't think he meant to shoot the guy.

Cop on the left has a taser and fires it at the suspect, you hear it go off a split-second before the first gunshot.

I think when the cop on the left fires his taser, it startled rifle guy and he reacts.

Ol Timer
12-06-2015, 3:52pm
Poor guy was getting ready to clean up, shave and turn his life around.

Marc
12-06-2015, 3:57pm
I think the cop on the far side of the car fired first. Watch his movements.:yesnod:

Olustee bus
12-06-2015, 4:01pm
I know that someone with a knife can be very dangerous and can charge quickly. What I don't understand is, in a situation like this, why wouldn't protocol be to back away to allow for some ability to talk the suspect down.

It just seems to me they fired too quickly.

StaticCling
12-06-2015, 4:56pm
Looking at it a few more times, and I can't exactly quantify it, but I think rifle guy misfired. I don't think he meant to shoot the guy.

Cop on the left has a taser and fires it at the suspect, you hear it go off a split-second before the first gunshot.

I think when the cop on the left fires his taser, it startled rifle guy and he reacts.

Exactly my thoughts.

Kerrmudgeon
12-06-2015, 5:14pm
Looked more like murder by cop to me. :(

boracayjohnny
12-06-2015, 6:12pm
I feel so bad for that guy getting shot and killed. I mean, ya just can't go robbing places and then confronting the po-po with a razor.

Further, no one forced him to rob the bank. Also, no one forced him to confront the po-po with a razor. If one is willing to go outside of normal, law abiding citizens then one may start a series of occurrences that can be deadly.

Consequences and repercussions.

Datawiz
12-06-2015, 6:18pm
Taser tripped the trigger happy gun man. I wouldn't be surprised if the perp's family don't sue for wrongful death.

Regardless, it was a happy ending, but I bet the first trigger man gets a reprimand. :yesnod:

StaticCling
12-06-2015, 6:28pm
I feel so bad for that guy getting shot and killed. I mean, ya just can't go robbing places and then confronting the po-po with a razor.

Further, no one forced him to rob the bank. Also, no one forced him to confront the po-po with a razor. If one is willing to go outside of normal, law abiding citizens then one may start a series of occurrences that can be deadly.

Consequences and repercussions.

I agree.

That said, I doubt much will happen since the perp isn't, well you know, a 'Minority'.

Craig
12-06-2015, 6:43pm
Is this where we riot and loot, because I am Kinda eyein' one of those massive curved TVs...


The 55" Samsung? If you can, would you grab me one? I'll steal you a twelve pack of whatever you want.

Blademaker
12-06-2015, 6:57pm
Looking at it a few more times, and I can't exactly quantify it, but I think rifle guy misfired. I don't think he meant to shoot the guy.

Cop on the left has a taser and fires it at the suspect, you hear it go off a split-second before the first gunshot.

I think when the cop on the left fires his taser, it startled rifle guy and he reacts.

But fires twice?

ApexOversteer
12-06-2015, 9:26pm
But fires twice?

Like I said, I can't quite quantify it, but the body language of rifle guy and the other officers indicates to me that the first shot was a surprise to everyone involved.

Anything anyone comes out with right now is opinion or speculation anyway.

ApexOversteer
12-06-2015, 9:30pm
I think the cop on the far side of the car fired first. Watch his movements.:yesnod:

Other side of car guy is holding a taser, not a firearm. You can see cop on left fire his taser. Cop on left and rifle guy are the only two that use their weapons.

JRD77VET
12-06-2015, 9:42pm
Regardless of what happened, the bank robber brought it onto himself by

1) "allegedly" robbing a bank

2) failure to follow directions by the police

3) having a deadly weapon in his hand and making a sudden move


A very simple case of "three strikes and you're out of the gene pool"

ApexOversteer
12-06-2015, 9:44pm
Regardless of what happened, the bank robber brought it onto himself by

1) "allegedly" robbing a bank

2) failure to follow directions by the police

3) having a deadly weapon in his hand and making a sudden move


A very simple case of "three strikes and you're out of the gene pool"

Yeah, robber guy had consequences coming. He created the situation.

And those consequences may have been getting shot accidentally.

It may have been an appropriate decision by officer rifleguy, but I wager he's going to have to explain that appropriate decision very clearly to a court of law as The Defendant.

VITE1
12-06-2015, 9:50pm
If you are committing a crime while armed and told to drop the weapon and you don't you should die right then and there.

It will save money and reduce crime.

JRD77VET
12-06-2015, 10:01pm
If you are committing a crime while armed and told to drop the weapon and you don't you should die right then and there.

It will save money and reduce crime.

:iagree:

In the mid 90s, the local DA said " If we shot more criminals we'd have less of them"

What he meant was they would think twice about their choices ( as stated later when he retracted what he said and "clarified" what he meant )

island14
12-07-2015, 8:00am
Regardless of what happened, the bank robber brought it onto himself by

1) "allegedly" robbing a bank

2) failure to follow directions by the police

3) having a deadly weapon in his hand and making a sudden move


A very simple case of "three strikes and you're out of the gene pool"



He should have stayed in the car..:yesnod: