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Tea Party to rally for Wisconsin anti-union bill.
'Meeting fire with fire' after moves by Democrats block Republican vote.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41664858/ns/us_news-life/
MADISON, Wis. ~ With Republican state lawmakers stymied over plans to pass an anti-union bill, and Gov. Scott Walker saying he would not compromise, Tea Party activists joined in the controversy by organizing a rally Saturday in support of the legislation.
Drew Ryun, president of American Majority Action, one of the conservative groups planning the demonstration, said organizers were "meeting fire with fire."
"We have buses coming in from all over the state," Ryun said of what was dubbed the "I Stand With Scott Walker" rally.
"We see this as the opening salvo of the 2012 election season.
The Tea Party movement facing off against the unions.
And we like the odds."
Walker on Friday ruled out a compromise proposed by a key union to retain collective bargaining rights in exchange for public workers accepting benefit cuts.
At a press conference, Walker said he could not consider the offer by the largest state workers union because it only covered some public employees and came late in the process.
Walker and other Republicans have been trying to pass a controversial bill that would end a half-century of collective bargaining for most public workers in Wisconsin.
Opponents of the bill staged their largest rally so far on Friday. Police estimated some 40,000 attended, exceeding Thursday's 25,000.
State Senate Democrats said they would stay away for days or even weeks, while Republican efforts to pass the bill in the state Assembly also faced obstacles.
The legislation appeared to be stalled until at least next week.
Across the rotunda in the state Assembly, Republicans aborted an attempt to hold a final vote on the bill without Democrats, who had been in a closed caucus meeting. Democrats sprinted into the chamber yelling to stop the vote, and the GOP leadership retreated. Lawmakers then adjourned until Tuesday.
Republicans had warned since last year's campaign that they would seek major concessions from unions. But for lawmakers in the minority, "The only other option we had to slow things down was to leave."
State Sen. Jon Erpenbach said the decision to flee happened on the spur of the moment as Democrats gathered near the Capitol for a regular strategy meeting Thursday morning.
An hour later, he threw a few travel essentials — a toothbrush, razor and some clothes — into a duffel bag and a backpack.
He took just two or three minutes to pack, and jumped in a car for a prearranged meeting at a hotel in Rockford, Ill., just south of the Wisconsin border.
The lawmakers were concerned that police could have detained them, even though the Wisconsin Constitution prohibits the arrest of state lawmakers while the Legislature is in session, except in cases of felonies, breaches of the peace or treason.
"We knew their jurisdiction ends at the state line, and that's why we came to Illinois," Erpenbach said.
From Rockford, the legislators headed in different directions, most of them traveling to the Chicago area or to other parts of northern Illinois, Erpenbach said.
Since leaving Wisconsin, he said he had not spoken to any of his Republican counterparts.
Students, teachers and prison guards have turned out at the Capitol this week to protest, standing shoulder-to-shoulder in the building's hallways, sitting cross-legged across the floor and making it difficult to move from room to room.
Some have brought along sleeping bags and stayed through the night.
In a sign that the commotion might be causing other problems for the governor, he pushed back the release of his two-year budget plan by one week, to March 1.
The governor insists the concessions he is seeking from public workers — including higher health insurance and pension contributions — are necessary to deal with the state's projected $3.6 billion budget shortfall and to avoid layoffs.
Eliminating their collective bargaining rights, except over wage increases not greater than the Consumer Price Index, is necessary in order to give the state and local governments and schools the flexibility needed to deal with upcoming cuts in state aid, Walker said.
Those arguments don't wash with Democrats who say the fight is really about political power and quashing the unions, whose members are longtime supporters of Democrats.
The protests are growing so large that Capitol workers cannot safely move through the halls, Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said, calling the situation "a powder keg."
Republican support for the bill remains strong, he added.
"If anything, what's going on around this building is galvanizing this caucus," Fitzgerald said.
The Wisconsin walkout was similar to a 2003 move by Texas Democrats who were outnumbered by Republicans in a battle over congressional redistricting.
The group got on a bus and fled for the Oklahoma border.
Work in the Texas House was halted for a week, and GOP leaders asked state troopers to find and arrest the 52 absent lawmakers.
It was the beginning of a bitter partisan confrontation that dragged on for months. Later that summer, a group of Senate Democrats fled to Albuquerque, N.M., for more than a month.
In the end, the walkouts only delayed the redistricting plan, which eventually passed and helped give the GOP more seats in Congress.
Back in Madison, some Democrats from the state Assembly went to Walker's office to demand a meeting.
Walker's spokesman said the governor's scheduler would get back to them.
Republicans hold a 57-38 majority in the Assembly, but they need 58 lawmakers present to take up the bill.
That puts the lone independent, Rep. Bob Ziegelbauer, in a powerful position.
Ziegelbauer said he would show up, but hoped to convince Republican leaders to first make changes to the collective bargaining parts of the bill.
Democratic strategist Chris Lehane called the walkout in Madison the boldest action Democrats have taken since midterm elections swept Republican to power in statehouses across the country.
Walker "has been so strident that the way he's engaged he has effectively given the Democrats the high ground in terms of how they're responding," Lehane said.
"What Wisconsin is going through isn't all that different from other states," he added.
"But the way it's being handled is."
What's at stake in Wisconsin
What bill would do ...
1) Eliminate collective bargaining rights for most public workers.
So while unions still could represent those workers, they would not be able to seek pay increases above those pegged to the Consumer Price Index unless approved by a public referendum.
2) Unions also could not force employees to pay dues and would have to hold annual votes to stay organized.
3) Local police, firefighters and state troopers would retain their collective bargaining rights.
4) Public workers would have to pay half the costs of their pensions and at least 12.6 percent of their health care coverage.
That represents an average of 8 percent increase in state employees' share of pension and health care costs.
In exchange, public employees were promised no furloughs or layoffs. Gov. Scott Walker has threatened to lay off up to 6,000 state workers if the measure does not pass.
Estimated savings ...
$30 million by July 1 and $300 million over the next two years to address a Republican-projected $3.6 billion budget shortfall.
Background ...
The proposal marks a dramatic shift for Wisconsin, which in 1959 was the first to pass a comprehensive collective bargaining law for public employees and was the birthplace of the national union representing all non-federal public employees.
When voters last year elected Gov. Walker, an outspoken conservative, along with GOP majorities in both legislative chambers, it set the stage for a dramatic reversal of the state's labor history.
National significance ...
New Republican governors and legislatures in other states have proposed cutting back on public employee costs to reduce budget shortfalls, but Wisconsin's move appears to be the earliest and most extensive.
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gonna be a lot of :beat::beat::beat::beat:
It'll be like todays why do you carry a gun thread ... :yesnod:
Y2Kvert4me
02-18-2011, 9:30pm
I kinda now hope he caves, and sends the layoff notices instead.
The union idiots still won't have a clue, but they can deal with that thought while on the hunt for for a new job.
Good luck to them.
Glenn Beck ~ Wisconsin Unions, Muslim Brotherhood All Part Of New World Order.
Also the impending return of the Anti-Christ ... Obama
Glenn Beck broadcasts theory that some Muslim leaders want the Antichrist to return
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/02/18/2011-02-18_glenn_beck_broadcasts_theory_that_some_muslim_leaders_want_the_antichrist_to_ret.html
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YouTube - Glenn Beck: Wisconsin Unions, Muslim Brotherhood All Part Of New World Order
ChasC5
02-18-2011, 10:32pm
Jessie Jackson getting cheers in Wiscinsin; way to go Republicans. :rofl:
Peter Pan
02-19-2011, 11:19pm
The Gov told everyone what he intended to do when he was running for Gov and now he is just following through with what he was elected to do, get over the libs lost the election, I hear this alot about the 08 election, but then the country does not like the red spending direction and seems another changed occured in 2010, get over it the CC spending is going to end now or in 2012 nationally and the states need to do it now, I am glad Texas will keep our budget in the black as I am taxed enough already, federal, state, and local levelshttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/american_flag.jpg
The Gov told everyone what he intended to do when he was running for Gov and now he is just following through with what he was elected to do, get over the libs lost the election, I hear this alot about the 08 election, but then the country does not like the red spending direction and seems another changed occured in 2010, get over it the CC spending is going to end now or in 2012 nationally and the states need to do it now, I am glad Texas will keep our budget in the black as I am taxed enough already, federal, state, and local levelshttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/american_flag.jpg
You live in redneck-ville Texas so why does Wisconsin matter to you ?
ChasC5
02-20-2011, 10:16am
You live in redneck-ville Texas so why does Wisconsin matter to you ?
Big Texas or Little Mexico. :D
Z06PDQ
02-20-2011, 12:01pm
You live in redneck-ville Texas so why does Wisconsin matter to you ?
and he believes Gov. Goodhair when he says we have a "balanced budget." :rofl:
Exotix
02-21-2011, 11:17am
Wis. governor says union bill is 'incredibly fair'
Walker says he doesn't want to see 'thousands upon thousands' of job cuts
Today
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41703174/ns/us_news-life/
MADISON, Wis. — A bill that would abolish most of public employees' collective bargaining rights was "incredibly fair" and would help the state avoid sweeping job cuts, Wisconsin governor Scott Walker said in an interview with msnbc's Chuck Todd aired Monday.
On day seven of the continuing protests against the bill at the Wisconsin Capitol, Walker insisted it was not political and was designed to make savings to help balance the budget.
"We're broke. Like nearly every other state across the country, we have a major deficit," he told Todd on The Daily Rundown program, saying they were going toward a $3.6 billion deficit.
Walker said removing some collective bargaining rights would save money and help stop people being laid off.
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Z06PDQ
02-21-2011, 12:57pm
WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH PUBLIC EMPLOYEES
Monday, February 21, 2011 10:14 AM
This is all about union busting and not about closing budget shortfalls.
WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH PUBLIC EMPLOYEES
By UTU International President Mike Futhey
The right of workers to join a labor union and bargain collectively with employers over wages, benefits and working conditions is the foundation of workplace democracy.
Brave and dedicated trade unionists before us risked their lives, freedom and economic security fighting for collective bargaining rights, achieving victory first in 1926 with passage of the Railway Labor Act, and then the National Labor Relations Act in 1935.
For public-sector workers, the struggle took longer. Wisconsin was the first state to grant its workforce a right of collective bargaining in 1959. Federal workers gained a collective bargaining right in 1962.
It is ironic that Wisconsin was the first state to sanction public-employee collective bargaining because it is Wisconsin's governor who this month invited massive civil unrest in his state by attempting to revoke that right.
Similar legislative efforts are underway in Ohio and Tennessee, and the movement to curtail public-employee collective bargaining rights could spread.
If the effort is successful, private-sector workers could then find their own collective-bargaining rights under attack. We are witnessing in Congress and in many state legislatures an anti-union animus stronger than it has been in decades.
To close our eyes to the struggle of state workers in Wisconsin, Ohio or elsewhere is to wake up finding our own collective bargaining rights gone.
That is why union members from across America -- many from the United Transportation Union -- have been participating in rallies, telephone and e-mail communications efforts, petition drives and other activities in support of public employees whose collective bargaining rights are under attack.
Wisconsin State Legislative Director Tom Deneen and Ohio State Legislative Director Glenn Newsom are coordinating joint action with the targeted public-employee unions.
As a member of the AFL-CIO Executive Committee, I am working with the federation's Transportation Trades Department to identify additional actions that might be taken to assist in fighting state attempts to restrict or eliminate public-employee collective bargaining.
The outrage is not that public employees must participate -- with all segments of society -- to close massive budget shortfalls.
The outrage is that Wisconsin Gov. Rick Scott wants to revoke the right of public employees to bargain over healthcare, pensions and working conditions, plus Scott wants to impose significant costs on workers and their unions by requiring annual representational elections and cancelling the state's collection of union dues through payroll deduction.
This is all about union busting and not about closing budget shortfalls.
In fact, Christopher Policano, an official with the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, said the union is willing to negotiate concessions with Gov. Walker, "but he wants to throw out the bargaining table."
Wisconsin is not the only state with a big budget deficit. By contrast, in California, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania, governors are collectively bargaining with state employees to find the least painful alternatives to balance state budgets.
In Pennsylvania, a spokesperson for Gov. Tom Corbett, a Republican, told The New York Times, "We'll begin negotiations with the public-sector unions and anticipate we'll conduct those in good faith."
Many UTU members have enquired how they might join in solidarity with public employees under siege.
Begin with an AFL-CIO sponsored website, "States of Denial," which provides opportunities for different levels of involvement. Click below to link to the "States of Denial" website:
States of Denial (http://www.aflcio.org/issues/states/)
Click on the following link to see how you might help in Ohio:
UTU: News (http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=53896)
And certainly consider joining, or increasing your contribution to, the UTU PAC, which works to elect union-friendly lawmakers to state legislatures and Congress.
The Gov told everyone what he intended to do when he was running for Gov and now he is just following through with what he was elected to do, get over the libs lost the election, I hear this alot about the 08 election, but then the country does not like the red spending direction and seems another changed occured in 2010, get over it the CC spending is going to end now or in 2012 nationally and the states need to do it now, I am glad Texas will keep our budget in the black as I am taxed enough already, federal, state, and local levelshttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/american_flag.jpg
The Governor should decertify all the public employee unions int he state.
F*&k them.
Public employees were excluded by FDR because he felt they were a danger to the people.
Text of FDR Letter Opposing Public Employee (Government)*Unions - Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog - A Conservative Blog (http://www.conservativeblog.org/amyridenour/2011/2/19/text-of-fdr-letter-opposing-public-employee-government-union.html)
My dear Mr. Steward:
As I am unable to accept your kind invitation to be present on the occasion of the Twentieth Jubilee Convention of the National Federation of Federal Employees, I am taking this method of sending greetings and a message.
Reading your letter of July 14, 1937, I was especially interested in the timeliness of your remark that the manner in which the activities of your organization have been carried on during the past two decades "has been in complete consonance with the best traditions of public employee relationships." Organizations of Government employees have a logical place in Government affairs.
The desire of Government employees for fair and adequate pay, reasonable hours of work, safe and suitable working conditions, development of opportunities for advancement, facilities for fair and impartial consideration and review of grievances, and other objectives of a proper employee relations policy, is basically no different from that of employees in private industry. Organization on their part to present their views on such matters is both natural and logical, but meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.
Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that "under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government."I congratulate the National Federation of Federal Employees the twentieth anniversary of its founding and trust that the convention will, in every way, be successful.
Very sincerely yours,
JFK allowed Federal employees to unionize by executive order and since then many others have allowed it. It was a pay off by the Dems to secure a partner in their quest to grow government power.
The Governor should decertify all the public employee unions int he state.
F*&k them.
he can't. :hurray: the right to collectively bargain is a federal law & always will be. FECK that ignorant POS. :yesnod:
Y2Kvert4me
02-21-2011, 6:15pm
he can't. :hurray: the right to collectively bargain is a federal law & always will be. Incorrect.
Did you not even read the lengthy article you posted earlier in this thread? :lol:
Incorrect.
Did you not even read the lengthy article you posted earlier in this thread? :lol:
did I miss that the right to collectively bargain is a federal law? how the hell did I [you] miss that that? :D
Y2Kvert4me
02-21-2011, 6:47pm
did I miss that the right to collectively bargain is a federal law? how the hell did I [you] miss that that? :DFederal law for Federal employees? :yesnod:
Federal law for private sector employees? :yesnod:
Federal law for State public sector employees? :nono:
Federal law for Federal employees? :yesnod:
Federal law for private sector employees? :yesnod:
Federal law for State public sector employees? :nono:
oh.... depends on the state. ok we'll fix that. give us time. :D
Y2Kvert4me
02-21-2011, 6:56pm
oh.... depends on the state. ok we'll fix that. give us time. :DYeah, we could soon be just like Texas. :D
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The other part of the Scott Walker plan: Firesale of Wisconsin state.
More explanation of why big corporations like Koch Industries are going to such lengths to support Gov. Scott Walker's budget.
Today
http://www.sheboyganpress.com/assets/pdf/U0170515216.PDF
The lion's share of attention regarding Scott Walker's legislative proposal has been paid to the effort to revoke Wisconsin public employees' collective bargaining rights, but the 144-page bill (Above) is a far more exhaustive and inclusive list of the fundamentals of Republican politics in the 21st Century.
~ 16.896 Sale or contractual operation of state-owned heating, cooling, and power plants.
(1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state-owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state.
Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).
If this isn't the best summary of the goals of modern conservatism, I don't know what is.
It's like a highlight reel of all of the tomahawk dunks of neo-Gilded Age corporatism: privatization, no-bid contracts, deregulation, and naked cronyism.
Extra bonus points for the explicit effort to legally redefine the term "public interest" as "whatever the energy industry lobbyists we appoint to these unelected bureaucratic positions say it is."
Walker's budget—and his intention—goes well beyond crippling public employees' unions.
He's selling the state to the highest bidder (or more like it, the largest campaign contributor, since bids won't be required for the acquisition of state assets).
The new slogan: What's good for the Koch brothers is good for Wisconsin.
Breaking the back of labor is one part of that end goal, but not the whole of it.
Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest.
Today
ThinkProgress » Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest (http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/18/business-teaparty-wisconsin/)
Wisconsin’s newly elected Republican Gov. Scott Walker is facing a growing backlash over his attempt to cut pay and eliminate collective bargaining rights for public employees in his state.
Although Walker is claiming his power grab is an attempt to close a budget gap, the budget “crisis” was engineered by Walker as soon as he got into office.
As Brian Beutler reported, half of the budget shortfall comes from Walker’s own tax cuts for businesses and other business giveaways enacted in January.
A number of the big business interests standing with Walker are beneficiaries of his administration’s tax giveaways.
But the greatest ally to Walker is the dirty energy company Koch Industries.
In response to the growing protests in Madison, Koch fronts are busing in Tea Party protesters to support Walker and his union-busting campaign.
Last night, MSNBC’s Ed Schultz reported on the involvement of Club for Growth and the Koch-financed Americans for Prosperity in the pro-Walker protest scheduled tomorrow.
Koch Industries is a major player in Wisconsin: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits.
At a time when Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch awarded themselves an extra $11 billion of income from the company, Koch slashed jobs at their Green Bay plant:
Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment.
The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated.
Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand.
In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant.
Koch Industries was one of the biggest contributors to Walker’s gubernatorial campaign, funneling $43,000 over the course of last year.
In return, Koch front groups are closely guiding the Walker agenda.
The American Legislative Exchange Council, another Koch-funded group, advised Walker and the GOP legislature on its anti-labor legislation and its first corporate tax cuts.
According to the EPA, Koch businesses are huge polluters, emitting thousands of pounds of toxic pollutants.
As soon as he got into office Walker started cutting environmental regulations and appointed a Republican known for her disregard for environmental regulations to lead the Department of Natural Resources.
In addition, Walker has stated his opposition to clean energy jobs policies that might draw workers away from Koch-owned interests.
Moreover, other organizers for the pro-Walker protest are from groups associated with corporate and Koch interests.
American Majority, a Virginia-based front group founded by organizers funded by millionaire investor Howie Rich, is on the ground contacting Wisconsin Tea Parties to support Walker in Madison.
Austin James, an American Majority official who was caught teaching Tea Party members to spam Amazon.com profiles of liberal books with negative comments, is the contact for the Facebook page organizing the pro-Walker protest. Eric O’Keefe, a longtime conservative operative who helps lead American Majority, attends Koch strategy meetings.
Update ~ Koch's Americans for Prosperity group has launched a new website and petition called Stand With Scott Walker (http://www.standwithwalker.com).
The new site attacks all collective bargaining, not just for public sector unions. Koch's front group also declares: "In fact, every state should adopt Governor Scott Walker's common sense reforms."
*Hey Rushbo, get your fatass down here ... *
~ Ed Schultz in Madison,WI.
YouTube - Ed Schultz, John Nichols in Madison, WI: huge crowds protest 'puppet' Gov. Walker
Yeah, we could soon be just like Texas. :D
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:iagree:
Maybe the Governer of Wisconsin can move to Texas and feel at home? :D
Because it's obvious the People don't agree with him. :yesnod:
Y2Kvert4me
02-21-2011, 7:51pm
Because it's obvious some People don't agree with him. :yesnod:Fixt.
It was a campaign promise that helped get him elected.
Can't fault the guy one bit for following through and making good on that deal.
Head 5 mins outside of Madison in any direction, and you will find the same sentiment echoed everywhere. But of course that's not newsworthy.
:cheers:
Yeah, we could soon be just like Texas. :D
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that's funny. my company & my union have been in legally binding contracts for several decades now. wow! I hope MY Fortune 500 over 100 year old company that just posted a RECORD PROFIT in a recession doesn't figure out WTF is going on. :D
Y2Kvert4me
02-21-2011, 8:06pm
that's funny. my company & my union have been in legally binding contracts for several decades now. wow! I hope MY Fortune 500 over 100 year old company that just posted a RECORD PROFIT in a recession doesn't figure out WTF is going on. :DBecause you're not a state employee? :skep:
Why are you not organizing protests in TX, but speaking so loudly against WI?
I say the more people the GOP puts in the Unemployment Line, the more Votes for the Democrats.
Brilliant :D
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Palin ~ *Union Brothers and Sisters Seize Opportunity to Show True Solidarity*
Union Brothers and Sisters: Seize Opportunity to Show True Solidarity | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/union-brothers-and-sisters-seize-opportunity-to-show-true-solidarity/10150093967618435)
"The union-led school closures and demonstrations in Madison have left most ordinary Americans shaking their heads in disbelief.
Months ago, I penned a message to my fellow union brothers and sisters when I found myself on the receiving end of union boss Richard Trumka’s wrath.
Yesterday’s demonstrations reminded me of the full-page ads taken out against me when I put my foot down in dealing with union demands while I served as governor.
My message then and now to good union brothers and sisters is that you have another option.
You don’t have to kowtow to the union bosses who are not looking out for you, but instead are using you.
You can join millions of other union members in a commonsense movement to help fight for the right causes in our great country – for budgets that share the burden in a truly fair way and for commonsense reforms that take power away from vested interests like union bosses and big business lobby groups, and put it back where it belongs – with “We the People.”
GOP presidential hopefuls rally behind Wis. Gov. Scott Walker
GOP presidential hopefuls rally behind Wis. Gov. Scott Walker - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/02/wisconsin-budget-scott-walker-presidential-support-/1?csp=hf)
As the protests over Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's labor proposals continue, the newly elected Republican is finding some support from the politicians who want to replace President Obama.
USA TODAY's Judy Keen and Dennis Cauchon report today that the bitter dispute has implications for the 2012 presidential election, pitting labor unions and their Democratic allies against Republicans looking for ways to control rising costs for benefits for public employees.
So it's no surprise that some of the GOP presidential hopefuls -- many of whom have executive experience as governors -- have weighed in.
Walker, who was sworn into office last month, thanked them for their support during an appearance on Fox News Sunday.
Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, a former White House budget director for President George W. Bush, whom Walker once described as a mentor, said the attacks on the Wisconsin governor are "predictable."
Daniels, who is among those considering a GOP presidential bid, said on The Diane Rehm Show on WAMU-FM that public employee unions have become the "privileged elite" in society.
Former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty ... has an online petition supporting Waker for "making tough choices needed to avoid financial ruin." Pawlenty also takes a swipe at President Obama, who last week said Walker's proposal "seems like more of an assault on unions."
Mike Huckabee ... a former Arkansas governor, said Sunday on Fox News that Obama "didn't have to go this far" in his critique of Walker's proposals, noting that the Democrat "would not be sitting in that office were it not for public sector unions who rallied for him in a significant way."
Mitt Romney ... formerly Massachusetts' governor, tweeted last week that Walker is "doing what's necessary to rein in out-of-control public sector pay and benefits."
Why are you not organizing protests in TX, but speaking so loudly against WI?
who says I'm not protesting? read my earlier post.the WI fiasco is a blatant move to kill collective bargaining disguised as a budget technicality. WI was the very first state to implement collective bargaining for gov. workers. the asshole governor wants to score political points by erasing this legacy. ain't gonna happen. :seeya:
:waiting:that's funny. my company & my union have been in legally binding contracts for several decades now. wow! I hope MY Fortune 500 over 100 year old company that just posted a RECORD PROFIT in a recession doesn't figure out WTF is going on. :D
The reason your company is posting record profits is when your union sits down with the Management they are not able to supply votes to get him out or get him promoted.
Public employees have a power private union's do not have and it is used by both Dems and Pubs to advance Their careers.
Z06PDQ
02-22-2011, 11:10am
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/walker-paying-back-koch-brothers-wisconsin
Exotix
02-22-2011, 11:15am
Time for a recall of neocon Gov. Walker ...
Time for a recall of neocon Gov. Walker ...
And who is going to pay for the recall election? They don't have any money, remember?
You'll have to have a tax increase to raise money to hold a new election, and the voters don't seem to be too interested in raising taxes again, which is how Walker got elected.
I actually disagree with the union busting Walker is trying to push through, but agree with him that negotiating with the unions is optional. I also wouldn't let state resources go to automatically collecting union dues. You want to pay dues, fine, do it on your own time and dime.
Here's the job, this is what it pays, and these are the benefits. You want the job or not? Seems simple. Private sector folks whose employers aren't doing well face lower pay, job loss, or reduced benefits. This isn't a space alien idea. Paying everybody a little less is better for the workers, and better for the state compared to the option of mass firings, which is pretty much the other option.
All those folks that are unwilling to accept their job with the new reduced employer funded perks are free to go find another job. There are plenty of teachers getting laid off here in Texas (because we have a budget problem, too) that might like to apply for those jobs, which, coincidentally, pay a lot more than Texas teachers get.
These folks walking off their jobs reminds me of the old Crown Petroleum refinery here in Houston. Their employees went on strike for years. The company hired a new crew of willing workers, continued to operate, and I guess finally it dawned on the strikers that, hey, they no longer had a job. And guess what? If I was interested in hiring somebody that had several years of unemployment on their resume because they were striking, I wouldn't want to hire them either.
Time for a recall of neocon Gov. Walker ...
Why? He told the people of Wisconsin he was going to cut spending and one of the ways he was going to do it was require public employees to contribute more for their pension and HC? He also said, before th elections, that he would suspend their collective bargaining rights.
He has done EXACTLY what he promised . He won .
RetiredSFC 97
02-22-2011, 12:06pm
he can't. :hurray: the right to collectively bargain is a federal law & always will be. FECK that ignorant POS. :yesnod:
Actually I believe it's an executive order signed by JFK, for federal employees.
States, I don't know.
Exotix
02-22-2011, 12:07pm
Why? He told the people of Wisconsin he was going to cut spending and one of the ways he was going to do it was require public employees to contribute more for their pension and HC? He also said, before th elections, that he would suspend their collective bargaining rights.
He has done EXACTLY what he promised . He won .
You have a point .. don't forget to read the fine print in the Wisconsin Legislature Special Session posted on post 20 ...
You have a point .. don't forget to read the fine print in the Wisconsin Legislature Special Session posted on post 20 ...
Please show me where?
My hope is that all public employee unions be decertified. Like FDR.
Please show me where?
My hope is that all public employee unions be decertified. Like FDR.
Fine ... let's say Gov. Walkers' bill passes ... what happens next ?
Fine ... let's say Gov. Walkers' bill passes ... what happens next ?
I would assume that the fundraising duties of the public unions would no longer be carried out by the taxpayers, for one.
I would also assume that the govt. workers would pay a bit more toward their benefits/retirement package than they do now, or quit and find a better paying job, if they can.
Why? What else would you expect to happen?
Coming from Texas, I just can't understand laws insisting on closed shops.
You have a right to work, you have a right to try and get all you can for your work, but really, forcing people to join a private club in order to work? I just can't understand that.
IOW, if I want to work in one of those closed shop states, and don't want to join a union, why should I not be allowed to work? That is the thing that is really screwed up.
I would assume that the fundraising duties of the public unions would no longer be carried out by the taxpayers, for one.
I would also assume that the govt. workers would pay a bit more toward their benefits/retirement package than they do now, or quit and find a better paying job, if they can.
Why? What else would you expect to happen?
Coming from Texas, I just can't understand laws insisting on closed shops.
You have a right to work, you have a right to try and get all you can for your work, but really, forcing people to join a private club in order to work? I just can't understand that.
IOW, if I want to work in one of those closed shop states, and don't want to join a union, why should I not be allowed to work? That is the thing that is really screwed up.
I was more wondering if Gov. Walker is gonna sell Wisconsin to private industry like Koch who needs to fire employees to make $11 Billion instead of $10.9 Billion and to collect more tax breaks ...
I was more wondering if Gov. Walker is gonna sell Wisconsin to private industry like Koch who needs to fire employees to make $11 Billion instead of $10.9 Billion and to collect more tax breaks ...
Texas governor Rick Perry tried to build and lease to a Spanish company a NAFTA toll road that Texans didn't want. We (so far) have stopped the toll road, but not before he blew $ 60 million Texas tax dollars trying to ram the deal down our throats.
Seems like Mitch Daniels in Indiana leased some of his toll roads to the same Spanish company, Cinta. This is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin.
As to privatization in general, if the Koch brothers can pick up the trash cheaper than public employees, then it would be better for the taxpayers to let them do it. This is what competition is all about. I have to be cheaper than my competitor and/or provide a better product, or I go out of business and lose my job, in addition to my employees losing their jobs.
There are many things my little burb contracts out to private companies, with the lowest legitimate bid getting the job. No problems with that. I want the best bang for my buck as a taxpayer, and I don't want to pay any more than I have to to get the minimum level of service I want.
Texas governor Rick Perry tried to build and lease to a Spanish company a NAFTA toll road that Texans didn't want. We (so far) have stopped the toll road, but not before he blew $ 60 million Texas tax dollars trying to ram the deal down our throats.
Seems like Mitch Daniels in Indiana leased some of his toll roads to the same Spanish company, Cinta. This is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin.
As to privatization in general, if the Koch brothers can pick up the trash cheaper than public employees, then it would be better for the taxpayers to let them do it. This is what competition is all about. I have to be cheaper than my competitor and/or provide a better product, or I go out of business and lose my job, in addition to my employees losing their jobs.
There are many things my little burb contracts out to private companies, with the lowest legitimate bid getting the job. No problems with that. I want the best bang for my buck as a taxpayer, and I don't want to pay any more than I have to to get the minimum level of service I want.
I see .. so the idea is private co.'s charging more to the individual than taxes and then they can decide whether or not you're *entitled* to *excellent* services especially on your ability to pay when America is at 9% unemployment ...
Let me guess, Paulie thought of that one ...
Fox News, Fox Business Reporters Become Targets At Wisconsin Protests - TVNewser (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fox-news-fox-business-reporters-become-targets-at-wisconsin-protests_b54082?c=rss)
I see .. so the idea is private co.'s charging more to the individual than taxes and then they can decide whether or not you're *entitled* to *excellent* services especially on your ability to pay when America is at 9% unemployment ...
:confused5:
The idea is that if state workers can fix a pothole for $ 100 and a private contractor can fix the same pothole for $ 90, then the private contractor should be tasked with fixing the pothole.
If the private contractor bids $ 110 to fix the pothole, then letting state employees do it for $ 100 makes sense.
Competition. Free enterprise. Lowest bidder that can perform the work properly gets the job, just like my business.
I don't get to charge more to my customers and have a job for life just because I have been working for them a long time. Every day, I have to keep proving myself. If I get complacent and lazy, or charge too much, my customers find someone else to do their work.
Wisconsin protesters want Fox News to ‘tell the truth’ - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110222/ts_yblog_thecutline/wisconsin-protesters-want-fox-news-to-tell-the-truth)
:confused5:
The idea is that if state workers can fix a pothole for $ 100 and a private contractor can fix the same pothole for $ 90, then the private contractor should be tasked with fixing the pothole.
If the private contractor bids $ 110 to fix the pothole, then letting state employees do it for $ 100 makes sense.
Competition. Free enterprise. Lowest bidder that can perform the work properly gets the job, just like my business.
I don't get to charge more to my customers and have a job for life just because I have been working for them a long time. Every day, I have to keep proving myself. If I get complacent and lazy, or charge too much, my customers find someone else to do their work.
That sounds like Reaganomics ... you know, the *new* economics because the Bush Tax Cuts while waging wars and de-regulating the financial system worked out so well that right-wingers ... especially CFPR&C ... will ban you for suggesting they/it existed ...
That sounds like Reaganomics ... you know, the *new* economics because the Bush Tax Cuts while waging wars and de-regulating the finacial system worked out so well that right-wingers ... especially CFPR&C ... will ban you for suggesting they existed ... it also sounds like an excellent way to replace Americans with illegals that will work for a pittance.
it also sounds like an excellent way to replace Americans with illegals that will work for a pittance.
Once you understand and accept into your heart that Reagan (neocons) & George Washingon (Tea Party) were the greatest presidents evar you wil have re-educated yourself into the proper indoctrination and all will be well ..
http://s7.tinypic.com/f3cqhd_th.jpg
Once you understand and accept into your heart that Reagan (neocons) & George Washingon (Tea Party) were the greatest presidents evar you wil have re-educated yourself into the proper indoctrination and all will be well ..
http://s7.tinypic.com/f3cqhd_th.jpg
sounds "religious" :D
I was more wondering if Gov. Walker is gonna sell Wisconsin to private industry like Koch who needs to fire employees to make $11 Billion instead of $10.9 Billion and to collect more tax breaks ...
Do you have any evidence that Walker is planning to do that? If so please link us up.
Do you have any evidence that Walker is planning to do that? If so please link us up.
The Kochtopus
Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest.
Today
ThinkProgress » Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest
Post 21 ~ http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/157018-post21.html
The Kochtopus
Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest.
Today
ThinkProgress » Koch Industries Slashed WI Jobs, Helped Elect Scott Walker, Now Orchestrating Pro-Walker Protest
Post 21 ~ http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/157018-post21.html
They laid off people and they are now trying to take over Wisconson?
You do realize that people are in buiness to make a profit?
Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment.
The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated.
Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand.
In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant.
It sucks to be those people but you either constantly cut costs or improve efficiency or you are run out of business by someone who does.
And you do realize that the public employee unions contributed massively to his opponent?
Entropy
02-22-2011, 5:32pm
I say the more people the GOP puts in the Unemployment Line, the more Votes for the Democrats.
Brilliant :D
Ummm... they're already voting democrat.
Those evil Koch brothers spent 43K in the last cycle. Bad Evil Koch brothers.
BTW thats their money
Government unions in Wisconsin perfectly match the definition of "special interests," a term Obama often invokes. Four of the top six Wisconsin contributors to the 2010 elections were labor unions, with the state's teachers union giving $119,342 and the Wisconsin chapter of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees spending $83,888. The teachers union gave 96 percent of its money to Democrats, while Wisconsin AFSCME gave Democrats every penny.
Government unions spent $573,868 on Wisconsin's 2010 elections -- almost all of it going to Democrats -- while government employees spent another half million, with most going to Democrats.
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/forum/topics/in-wisconsin-its-the-unions-vs
And the Union supported politicians lost. Now they get what the deserve.
A does of reality.
Those evil Koch brothers spent 43K in the last cycle. Bad Evil Koch brothers.
BTW thats their money
In Wisconsin, it's the unions vs. the people and UPDATE: The Tea Party takes Madison! - Patriot Action Network (http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/forum/topics/in-wisconsin-its-the-unions-vs)
And the Union supported politicians lost. Now they get what the deserve.
A does of reality.
Can you imagine that ? ... multi-billionaires investing $43K in a political/election cycle to net you billions later ... nice.
Can you imagine that ? ... multi-billionaires investing $43K in a political/election cycle to net you billions later ... nice.
I wonder why he didn't show us who the top contributor was? :D
I wonder why he didn't show us who the top contributor was? :D
Hopefully hit'n'run CFPR&C'r Will will impress us with a nice graph of all the major playing *contributors* ... http://s7.tinypic.com/6fbo1l_th.jpg
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 6:43pm
I wonder why he didn't show us who the top contributor was? :DWho cares?
How much money was contributed to a campaign is irrelevant compared to the count of votes.
Who cares?
How much money was contributed to a campaign is irrelevant compared to the count of votes.
You think so ... then how do you explain the SCOTUS departing from *precedent* in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission where the Roberts Court ruled unconstitutional the ban on corporate treasury funding of independent political campaigns ?
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 7:08pm
You think so ... then how do you explain the SCOTUS departing from *precedent* in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission where the Roberts Court ruled unconstitutional the ban on corporate treasury funding of independent political campaigns ?Nothing ado with contributing, everything to do with media.
Nothing ado with contributing, everything to do with media.
Yes ? explain please ... http://i56.tinypic.com/16jestv.gif
Who cares?
How much money was contributed to a campaign is irrelevant compared to the count of votes.
and what the majority of the people think is irrelevant too? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/z06pdq/2011-02-22-Blumenthal-20110222afltable.png
Can you imagine that ? ... multi-billionaires investing $43K in a political/election cycle to net you billions later ... nice.
And where do you have evidence that they will get 1 billion for their investment
VS
The teachers getting dozens of millions each year for a decades is proven?
You think so ... then how do you explain the SCOTUS departing from *precedent* in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission where the Roberts Court ruled unconstitutional the ban on corporate treasury funding of independent political campaigns ?
And how do you explain a administration run by a "Constitutional Scholar" psyching through a deal to help Unions that violates 2 centuries of economic law?
And how do you explain a administration run by a "Constitutional Scholar" psyching through a deal to help Unions that violates 2 centuries of economic law?
Would you rather Mammmmmmy Grizly? :rofl:
And how do you explain a administration run by a "Constitutional Scholar" psyching through a deal to help Unions that violates 2 centuries of economic law?
Oh, goes to whether a Gov. needs to create jobs or take away a workers rights ... as precedent and as a competitive edge in the greatest country mankind has ever seen ... as it loses it's place because of a host of agreements that serves the corp. only.
Oh, goes to whether a Gov. needs to create jobs or take away a workers rights ... as precedent and as a competitive edge in the greatest country mankind has ever seen ... as it loses it's place because of a host of agreements that serves the corp. only.
Interesting how those Corporate Tax Breaks affect State Revenue. :D
Isn't basic math fun? :cheers:
Interesting how those Corporate Tax Breaks affect State Revenue. :D
Isn't basic math fun? :cheers:
I like the socialist/communist/national socialist fascist rants coming from the right as their explanation of everything gone wrong ... same shit different day ...
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 8:31pm
and what the majority of the people think is irrelevant too? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/z06pdq/2011-02-22-Blumenthal-20110222afltable.pngMajority of biased folks? Sure.
Now understand the very people that elected him are backing him stronger than ever. :yesnod:
How are your TX protests progressing?
:cheers:
Majority of biased folks? Sure.
Now understand the very people that elected him are backing him stronger than ever. :yesnod:
How are your TX protests progressing?
:cheers:
Does that statement only go for Govenatorial elections, or can it also be applied to Presidental elections? :D
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 8:38pm
Does that statement only go for Govenatorial elections, or can it also be applied to Presidental elections? :DWell, I don't know if dead people can become any more/less stronger in their Presidential backings....All really depends on if they allowed to vote again in 2012.
Well, I don't know if dead people can become any more/less stronger in their Presidential backings....
I'll take your duck as a Yes! :D
how does abolishing collective bargaining rights help the budget? can you say "agenda?" :seeya:
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 9:04pm
how does abolishing collective bargaining rights help the budget? can you say "agenda?" :seeya:Why is it prohibited in Texas?
Why is it prohibited in Texas?
beats the hell out of me. maybe because Texas is full of dumb ass RW rednecks? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/z06pdq/lincoln_quote.jpg
Well we have a lot of Fools. :rofl:
how does abolishing collective bargaining rights help the budget? can you say "agenda?" :seeya:
It is suspending collective bargaining rights for public employee unions. It was a good idea when FDR had it and it's a good idea now.
They have a competitive advantage when negotiating with public officials due to their power in generating voters and money for campaigns.
Oh, goes to whether a Gov. needs to create jobs or take away a workers rights ... as precedent and as a competitive edge in the greatest country mankind has ever seen ... as it loses it's place because of a host of agreements that serves the corp. only.
You are delusional., Public employee benefits, wages and overall employment have grown at a greater rate than private industry and that is due to the collusion between labor and management. They both NEED the same thing
Other peoples money.
Exotix
02-22-2011, 10:38pm
You are delusional., Public employee benefits, wages and overall employment have grown at a greater rate than private industry and that is due to the collusion between labor and management. They both NEED the same thing
Other peoples money.
Fine .. how does killing off collective bargaining save Wisconsin ? ... this is important because Egypt has now spread to Ohio and Indiana ... you may allude to the Libyan revolt causing the gas price hike at the pump as an example ..
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 10:44pm
this is important because Egypt has now spread to Ohio and Indiana Where's the revolt in the several other states that never allowed it at all?
Exotix
02-22-2011, 10:46pm
Where's the revolt in the several other states that never allowed it at all?
You mean the other states who have blue collar neandrathals comprised as the majority of the populace who can't think on their own as suggested by the right-wingers over on the Wisconsin OT thread ?
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 10:56pm
You mean the other states who have blue collar neandrathals comprised as the majority of the populace who can't think on their own as suggested by the right-wingers over on the Wisconsin OT thread ?Yeah, the TX, GA, SC. NC. VA public sector employees?
How many of them are considered blue collar neanderthals? :bilmem:
And again the question, where are the mass protests in those states?
Peter Pan
02-22-2011, 11:00pm
beats the hell out of me. maybe because Texas is full of dumb ass RW rednecks? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/z06pdq/lincoln_quote.jpg
Where in the quote is the statement Unions? Oh it is not there, did the Reps in the house and senate walk out durning the stuffed down your throat and you can ride in the back of the bus healthcare debate.
The Dems need to come back and ride in the back of the bus, they can dish out the crap, but when they get force fed they can not take it:lol:
Peter Pan
02-22-2011, 11:08pm
and what the majority of the people think is irrelevant too? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/z06pdq/2011-02-22-Blumenthal-20110222afltable.png
How about what the nation is thinking vs the union:hurray:
48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions
48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2011/48_back_gop_governor_in_wisconsin_spat_38_side_with_unions)
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 11:12pm
How about what the nation is thinking vs the union:hurray:
48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions
48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2011/48_back_gop_governor_in_wisconsin_spat_38_side_with_unions)That's pure death to the Libs...which is why they're running so scared. :yesnod:
Exotix
02-22-2011, 11:14pm
Americans for Prosperity Launches Statewide TV Ad Urging Wisconsinites To “Stand With Walker”
Today
National site | Americans for Prosperity (http://www.americansforprosperity.org/national-site)
~Who decides Wisconsin’s future: voters or government unions ?-
~ StandWithWalker.com exceeds 60,000 signers ~
MILWAUKEE ~ A new television ad to begin airing tomorrow in Wisconsin will urge citizens to stand with Governor Scott Walker for fiscal sanity and balanced budgets rather than government unions.
The ad asks state citizens, “Who decides Wisconsin’s future: voters or government unions?”
Breitbart & Americans for Prosperity President Appear at Tea Party Rally in Support of Walker's Bill.
Breitbart & Americans for Prosperity President Appear at Tea Party Rally in Support of Walker's Bill, Sat. Noon-3pm | Center for Media and Democracy (http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/02/9959/breitbart-americans-prosperity-president-appear-tea-party-rally-support-walkers-bi)
Tea Party groups are planning to attend a rally on Saturday, February 18 to show support for Scott Walker's effort to dismantle over fifty years of collective bargaining rights in his "budget repair bill."
The rally is planned by the Koch brothers- funded Americans for Prosperity, the Sam Adams Alliance-funded American Majority, and several Wisconsin Tea Party groups.
Scheduled to appear are:
~Andrew Breitbart, right-wing superstar and founder of Big Government
~Tim Phillips, president of Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity
~Jim Hoft of the "Gateway Pundit" blog (who recently blamed CBS reporter
~ Lara Hogan for her sexual assault in Egypt)
~ Ned Ryun, President of American Majority
~Herman Cain, Tea Partier and 2012 presidential candidate (who has hired as his campaign director Mark Block, former director of Wisconsin Americans for Prosperity investigated for repeat fair election law violations)
~ Vicki McKenna, talk radio host for Madison's WISN and WIBA (who claims "liberals want to assassinate Scott Walker")
The rally is scheduled from Noon-3pm at the capitol's South entrance (corner of Main, S. Carroll & Hamilton).
AFP media director Mary Ellen Burke says that ten buses from around the state will be transporting people to the rally.
AFP President Tim Phillips joined American Majority and and several local Wisconsin tea party groups this afternoon at the "Stand with Scott Walker" rally in Madison, Wisconsin.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5458833435_a17f18e5a0.jpg
Y2Kvert4me
02-22-2011, 11:24pm
~ StandWithWalker.com exceeds 60,000 signers ~
Thanks.
#67319 here :D
:cheers:
Peter Pan
02-22-2011, 11:25pm
Americans for Prosperity Launches Statewide TV Ad Urging Wisconsinites To “Stand With Walker”
Today
National site | Americans for Prosperity (http://www.americansforprosperity.org/national-site)
~Who decides Wisconsin’s future: voters or government unions ?-
~ StandWithWalker.com exceeds 60,000 signers ~
MILWAUKEE ~ A new television ad to begin airing tomorrow in Wisconsin will urge citizens to stand with Governor Scott Walker for fiscal sanity and balanced budgets rather than government unions.
The ad asks state citizens, “Who decides Wisconsin’s future: voters or government unions?”
Breitbart & Americans for Prosperity President Appear at Tea Party Rally in Support of Walker's Bill.
Breitbart & Americans for Prosperity President Appear at Tea Party Rally in Support of Walker's Bill, Sat. Noon-3pm | Center for Media and Democracy (http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/02/9959/breitbart-americans-prosperity-president-appear-tea-party-rally-support-walkers-bi)
Tea Party groups are planning to attend a rally on Saturday, February 18 to show support for Scott Walker's effort to dismantle over fifty years of collective bargaining rights in his "budget repair bill."
The rally is planned by the Koch brothers- funded Americans for Prosperity, the Sam Adams Alliance-funded American Majority, and several Wisconsin Tea Party groups.
Scheduled to appear are:
~Andrew Breitbart, right-wing superstar and founder of Big Government
~Tim Phillips, president of Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity
~Jim Hoft of the "Gateway Pundit" blog (who recently blamed CBS reporter
~ Lara Hogan for her sexual assault in Egypt)
~ Ned Ryun, President of American Majority
~Herman Cain, Tea Partier and 2012 presidential candidate (who has hired as his campaign director Mark Block, former director of Wisconsin Americans for Prosperity investigated for repeat fair election law violations)
~ Vicki McKenna, talk radio host for Madison's WISN and WIBA (who claims "liberals want to assassinate Scott Walker")
The rally is scheduled from Noon-3pm at the capitol's South entrance (corner of Main, S. Carroll & Hamilton).
AFP media director Mary Ellen Burke says that ten buses from around the state will be transporting people to the rally.
AFP President Tim Phillips joined American Majority and and several local Wisconsin tea party groups this afternoon at the "Stand with Scott Walker" rally in Madison, Wisconsin.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/5458833435_a17f18e5a0.jpg
The Gov told the voters what he was going to do during the election and he got a mandate, just like the failed stimilus and the Healthcare law that already has four states with waivers. This is different, the Gov is cutting spending and as I recall during the HC debate the Reps did not flee the capitol to avoid voting, they were in the back of the bus. Unions time has come and gone, they are fleecing the taxpayer in this case and need to pay there fair share and no more being stronged armed by the unions. Dems come back and go for the repeal and see what happens, like what is going on with HC, get in the back of the bus and get the budget cuts the voters asked for as they did vote for the Gov:hi:
Exotix
02-22-2011, 11:31pm
Thanks.
#67319 here :D
:cheers:
:cheers:
That's pure death to the Libs...which is why they're running so scared. :yesnod:
And the GOP is making Friends all over the US. :D
Don't they know they are already a Minority. :rofl:
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