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Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:15am
US Government in Massive New Global Warming Scandal - NOAA Disgraced



Climate Change Dispatch - Exposing the fraud in the so-called consensus (http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/7479-us-government-in-massive-new-global-warming-scandal-noaa-disgraced)

US Government in Massive New Global Warming Scandal – NOAA Disgraced
Written by John O'Sullivan, special to Climate Change Fraud | 09 August 2010



600°F in Egg Harbor, WI? Yikes!UPDATE 8-10-2010: It would appear CoastWatch has removed the original image. Never fear, it's shown here on the right. Please see author's addendum at end of article.


Global warming data apparently cooked by U.S. government-funded body shows astounding temperature fraud with increases averaging 10 to 15 degrees Fahrenheit.

The tax-payer funded National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has become mired in fresh global warming data scandal involving numbers for the Great Lakes region that substantially ramp up averages.

A beleaguered federal agency appears to be implicated in the most blatant and extreme case of climate data fraud yet seen. Official records have been confirmed as evidence that a handful of temperature records for the Great Lakes region have been hiked up by literally hundreds of degrees to substantially inflate the average temperature range for the northeastern United States.

The web pages at the center of this latest climate storm were created by NOAA in partnership with Michigan State University.


Disgraced Administration Mired in Another Climategate-style Data Fix

Someone under the pseudonym ‘Sportsmen’ anonymously tipped off skeptic blog, Climatechangefraud.com. Independent analysts affirm the web pages as genuine.

In his email the faceless whistleblower explains that what precipitated the scoop was “a rather dubious report in the media that the Great Lakes temperatures have risen 10 to 15 degrees, I found it was downright laughable.” (Just a few examples of media hysteria here and here and here and here)

He continues, “ Prior to this report I would frequent the ‘Coastal Watch’ temperature maps for northern Lake Michigan. When this report came out it dawned on me that the numbers didn't match what I had been reading on the Coastal Watch temperature page.”

Under a scheme called ‘Sea Grant’ NOAA collaborates with national universities to compile an official federal temperature record. In this instance, the partnersip is with Michigan University’s ‘Coastal Watch.’

Together the two institutions show temperature maps for northern Lake Michigan registering an absurd 430 degrees Fahrenheit -yes, you read it right –that’s four hundred and thirty degrees-and this is by no means the highest temperature recorded on the charts.

In the heated debate about Earth’s ever-changing climate you certainly don’t need to be scientist to figure out that the Great Lakes would have boiled away at a mere 212 degrees so something has seriously gone awry inside this well-funded program.

In addition to its civilian employees, NOAA research and operations are supported by 300 uniformed service members who make up the NOAA Commissioned Officer Corps. But don’t bet on anyone being court-marshalled over this latest global warming fiasco.

Paid for entirely from federal taxes, the shamed public body’s key responsibilities include warning of dangerous weather and protection of ocean and coastal resources, and conducts research to improve understanding and stewardship of the environment.

Michigan State University Also Complicit in Fraud?


The worst evidence of hyper-inflated global warming data is on a web page entitled, ‘Michigan State University Remote Sensing & GIS Research and Outreach Services.’

While another web page identifies that Michigan State University’s ‘Coastal Watch’ site is officially connected to NOAA thus implicating both institutions in a climate data conspiracy. At the bottom of the web page mention is made of ‘Sea Grant’ that is described as a “unique partnership of public and private sectors that combines research, education and technology transfer for public service.“

The legend further boasts that such data is shared across “ a national network of universities meeting the changing environmental and economic needs of Americans in coastal ocean and Great Lakes regions.”


NOAA Makes it White Hot in Wisconsin

But our intrepid anonymous whistleblower wasn’t done yet. He pointed out that Egg Harbor, Wisconsin, really got cooking this July 4th around 9:59AM, according to NOAA and Coast Watch. It was there, at the bottom left row of the temperature data points, that the records reveal on that day a phenomenally furnace-like 600 degrees Fahrenheit. (Click here if CoastWatch link does not work or disappears)


Egg Harbor by Royalbroil
Further analysis of the web pages shows that the incredibly wide temperature swings were occurring in remarkably short 10-hour periods-and sometimes in less than 5 hours. Strangely, none of the 250 citizens of the 78 families living in the village appeared to notice this apocalyptic heatwave during their holiday festivities.

Hidden Data Spike Hikes Heating Averages

But our sharp-eyed stranger comments, “ As I understand it, the current available Gif data maps are several for the latest dates, but the archives have less dates to choose from. It's possible that in the past these numbers were incorrect but in the archive system you do not see the numbers that could have been in gross error.”

So it may reasonably be inferred climate fraudsters had a perfect opportunity here to fraudulently apply overcooked and overlooked data so that America’s Joe Public would be none the wiser that a few climate numbers vastly ramped up the national temperature averages.

Laughably, NOAA publishes a caveat at the bottom right corner of their web page warning about their data is “Not to be used for navigation purposes!”

The current head of NOAA is Dr. Jane Lubchenco, nominated by President Barack Obama and confirmed by the United States Senate on March 19, 2009 and is the first woman to serve as NOAA administrator. On her appointment Lubchenco declared that science would guide the agency and that she expects it to play a role in developing a green economy. You can say that again!

Readers now interested in doing their own detective work may wish to peruse the further data found here and here

to further ascertain whether climate doomsayers have rigged more ‘real world’ temperatures in a shabby scheme to win support for green energy tax hikes. If you find anything be sure to drop Lubchenco a line here.

Author's Addendum:
Of major concern here is whether the false data has been fed into climate models ascertaining the broader temperature averages for the entire United States. The alleged response from NOAA as shown in the comments below this article, indicates evasiveness by Chuck Pistis, NOAA Program Coordinator, in answering the question. Why so?

I also applied due diligence and asked internationally renowned climatologist, Dr. Timothy Ball to take a look at the numbers. Here is what Dr. Ball observed:

"I have read your article and believe it is a very valid observation of the data as reported. At best the entire incident indicates gross incompetence, at worst it indicates a deliberate attempt to create a temperature record that suits the political message of the day."

Moreover, I have written to NOAA but am still awaiting their reply. I specifically asked whether this extravagantly false data was fed into climate models to help ramp up the U.S. climate numbers by "400%" as commented on by analyst, Jo Nova (more here). The Australian researcher provides an excellent summary to an important paper that removes all doubt that climate models are utterly flawed. As Dr. Ball points out—perhaps we know why.

John O'Sullivan is a legal analyst, author and journalist. As an accredited academic, John taught and lectured for over twenty years at schools and colleges in the east of England before moving to the United States. As an analytical commentator, O'Sullivan has published over 100 major articles worldwide.

Exotix
12-12-2010, 10:17am
I think they should send-in the arsenic-eating bacterium and restore the mofo to balance ...

http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:23am
I think they should send-in the arsenic-eating bacterium and restore the mofo to balance ...

http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

stay on topic or get out of this thread.

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 10:26am
I think they should send-in the arsenic-eating bacterium and restore the mofo to balance ...

http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

I physically spend at least four to six weekends at our friends lake home; enough said. :cheers:

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:27am
I physically spend at least four to six weekends at our friends lake home; enough said. :cheers:

stay on topic or get out of the thread.

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 10:33am
stay on topic or get out of the thread.

This is about GW, correct? Wouldn't someone who actually spends time on a Lake Front property have an opinion? Or do I need your permission first to respond to a post? Has it gotten that typical yet?

Anyway, i return you back to experienced opinions. :cheers:

Exotix
12-12-2010, 10:39am
stay on topic or get out of this thread.

Sorry ... John O'Sullivan is merely another *anti-conventional wisdom hack* that has spawned since the Obamanation ...

As I've attempted to pump into the fact that Global Warming anti-algorians are in *fertile-ground* with regards that they get paid just as well as the algorians ... well, and as I've puported and will continue to purport ... there is more scintific proof that Global Warming exists as man-made than not ...

This is because man-made pollutants *enhance and escalate* the earths natural green-house (gas) phenomena ... not just as *stand-alone* as the anti-algorians want you to believe ... you will never see the likes of anti-algorians such as this author O'Sullivan ever go near this ...




YouTube - RT -"Cracking the Climate Fraud Wide Open" - John O'Sullivan - Climate Fools Day

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:40am
This is about GW, correct? Wouldn't someone who actually spends time on a Lake Front property have an opinion? Or do I need your permission first to respond to a post? Has it gotten that typical yet?

Anyway, i return you back to experienced opinions. :cheers:

What has any part of your post got to do with the thread topic?

BTW....compare my 30 years growing up in Michigan to your 4-6 weeks. ;)

Back to Topic please.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:43am
Sorry ... John O'Sullivan is merely another *anti-conventional wisdom hack* that has spawned since the Obamanation ...

As I've attempted to pump into the fact that Global Warming anti-algorians are in *fertile-ground* with regards that they get paid just as well as the algorians ... well, and as I've puported and will continue to purport ... there is more scintific proof that Global Warming exists as man-made than not ...

This is because man-made pollutants *enhance and escalate* the earths natural green-house (gas) phenonomen ... not just as *stand-alone* as the anti-algorians* want you to beleive ... you will never see the likes of anti-algorians such as this author O'Sullivan ever go near this ...


YouTube - RT -"Cracking the Climate Fraud Wide Open" - John O'Sullivan - Climate Fools Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24aEw7f1Xuc)

Pollution is not Global Warming. Stay on Topic........as a reminder the topic is the misreporting of temperature data by NOAA.

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 10:51am
What has any part of your post got to do with the thread topic?

BTW....compare my 30 years growing up in Michigan to your 4-6 weeks. ;)

Back to Topic please.

The best thing about opinions it that they are your own and no one can dictate them to you. You either agree with a persons opinion and or response or you don't. But you're not entitled to everyone opinion here in America.

God Bless America and God Bless our Freedom to our own Opinions. :cheers:


BTW, I was at the Michigan / Illinois Game a month ago, I love Anarbor; lot of fun.

And on that day, not GW problems. :beer:

About the topic; the author is entitled to his opinion. Nice opinion. :cheers:

Exotix
12-12-2010, 10:53am
Pollution is not Global Warming. Stay on Topic........as a reminder the topic is the misreporting of temperature data by NOAA.

You need to give it up starting this same 'ol right-wing wacko crap like you do over on CFPR&C ... this is why we have this forum ...

NOAA is either your enemy or your friend as long as they host particulars that enhance the profitable venture for your industry and profession ...
... BP Oil ...

MMS and as a function of the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management has hacks too with regards to Global Warming in terms of political agendas ...


Stop posting up crap if you can't handle the rebuttles ..

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 10:53am
Pollution is not Global Warming. Stay on Topic........as a reminder the topic is the misreporting of temperature data by NOAA.

California pollution problem has caused temperature problems.

Would you agree or disagree?

Is that response meet your approval?

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:55am
The best thing about opinions it that they are your own and no one can dictate them to you. You either agree with a persons opinion and or response or you don't. But you're not entitled to everyone opinion here in America.

God Bless America and God Bless our Freedom to our own Opinions. :cheers:


BTW, I was at the Michigan / Illinois Game a month ago, I love Anarbor; lot of fun.

And on that day, not GW problems. :beer:

About the topic; the author is entitled to his opinion. Nice opinion. :cheers:


post to the topic. or stay out of the thread

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:57am
You need to give it up starting this same 'ol right-wing wacko crap like you do over on CFPR&C ... this is why we have this forum ...

NOAA is either your enemy or your friend as long as they host particulars that enhance the profitable venture for your industry and profession ...
... BP Oil ...

MMS and as a function of the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management has hacks too with regards to Global Warming in terms of political agendas ...


Stop posting up crap if you can't handle the rebuttles ..

what rebuttles??
Post to the topic of NOAA reporting highly erroneous data and including it in their models.
BTW, if you hadn't noticed, this is Vette Barn.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 10:59am
California pollution problem has caused temperature problems.

Would you agree or disagree?

Is that response meet your approval?

stay on topic. The topic at hand is NOAA reporting erroneous data and including it in their models.

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 11:05am
stay on topic. The topic at hand is NOAA reporting erroneous data and including it in their models.

Did you send the NOAA a letter to protest? :confused5:

I condemn anyone reporting erroneous data; whether it's the NOAA, Fox News or Rush.

I still believe in Global Warming.

That's my response, that's my opinion and that's the way it is?

You can either deal with it or not, but that's the way of the world.

:D

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 11:07am
Did you send the NOAA a letter to protest? :confused5:

I condemn anyone reporting erroneous data; whether it's the NOAA, Fox News or Rush.

I still believe in Global Warming.

That's my response, that's my opinion and that's the way it is?

You can either deal with it or not, but that's the way of the world.

:D

Thank you for your response. That makes a grand total of 2 whole posts on topic.

Exotix
12-12-2010, 11:10am
what rebuttles??
Post to the topic of NOAA reporting highly erroneous data and including it in their models.
BTW, if you hadn't noticed, this is Vette Barn.

Oh, you still want us to believe that we're ignorant to you and the way you logic ... and for what *purposeful intent* ...

As an example, here's how you and your buddy Kneel 8250 logic ... so tell me, was NOAA your friend or enemy here ?



'Unrealized at the time...' - Deepwater Horizon Update - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/politics-religion-and-controversy/2727872-unrealized-at-the-time-deepwater-horizon-update.html)

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 11:11am
Thank you for your response. That makes a grand total of 2 whole posts on topic.

You are welcome Tinker. :D

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 11:14am
Oh, you still want us to believe that we're ignorant to you and the way you logic ... and for what *purposeful intent* ...

As an example, here's how you and your buddy Kneel 8250 logic ... so tell me, was NOAA your friend or enemy here ?



'Unrealized at the time...' - Deepwater Horizon Update - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/politics-religion-and-controversy/2727872-unrealized-at-the-time-deepwater-horizon-update.html)

Stay on topic Exotix. As a reminder the topic is NOAA reporting erroneous temperature data over the Great Lakes.

Exotix
12-12-2010, 11:15am
Stay on topic Exotix. As a reminder the topic is NOAA reporting erroneous temperature data over the Great Lakes.

How'bout NOAA's Ark ... http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 11:17am
Stay on topic Exotix. As a reminder the topic is NOAA reporting erroneous temperature data over the Great Lakes.

How'bout NOAA's Ark ... http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

again, stay on topic

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 11:39am
again, stay on topic

Is this the new Just Say No campaign? :D

just keep saying on phrase over and over again and hope it sticks. :D

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 11:42am
Is this the new Just Say No campaign? :D

just keep saying on phrase over and over again and hope it sticks. :D

do you have anything, anything at all, to say about the topic???

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 11:46am
do you have anything, anything at all, to say about the topic???

Not anymore, I've said everything I wanted to say.

Once again, see how this works?

People have "opinions" on PR&C Topics.

You don't have to like the answers, but they're not yours in the first place.

:cheers:

Time to do my traditional Sunday Guy thing ... Watch some Football :D

:dance::above::cheers::beer::hurray:

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 11:49am
Not anymore, I've said everything I wanted to say.

Once again, see how this works?

People have "opinions" on PR&C Topics.

You don't have to like the answers, but they're not yours in the first place.

:cheers:

Time to do my traditional Sunday Guy thing ... Watch some Football :D

:dance::above::cheers::beer::hurray:

yeah I see. :skep: BTW, you haven't given any answers. :thumbs:

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 12:02pm
Not anymore, I've said everything I wanted to say.

Once again, see how this works?

People have "opinions" on PR&C Topics.

You don't have to like the answers, but they're not yours in the first place.

:cheers:

Time to do my traditional Sunday Girl thing ... Watch some Football :D

:dance::above::cheers::beer::hurray:

yeah I see. :skep: BTW, you haven't given any answers. :thumbs:


Do I need to say any more??????

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:04pm
Do I need to say any more??????

stay on topic, Honey

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 12:06pm
stay on topic, Honey

Apologies Tinkerbell. Sometimes my potty mouth runs away. :D

Exotix
12-12-2010, 12:07pm
Not anymore, I've said everything I wanted to say.

Once again, see how this works?

People have "opinions" on PR&C Topics.

You don't have to like the answers, but they're not yours in the first place.

:cheers:

Time to do my traditional Sunday Guy thing ... Watch some Football :D

:dance::above::cheers::beer::hurray:

Might as well take your time and have a good time ... this another Tinkerbell:

*Lemme start another designed as a Dead-End thread so I can sport fake-outrage and cry because I'm failing to get you banned because you're not falling for my crap by having the nerve to responding to it with truth and fact that pwns me ... thread ... * ...


:rofl:

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:07pm
Apologies Tinkerbell. Sometimes my potty mouth runs away. :D

apology accepted, Honey.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:11pm
Might as well take your time and have a good time ... this another Tinkerbell:

*Lemme start another designed as a Dead-End thread so I can sport fake-outrage and cry because I'm failing to get you banned because you're not falling for my crap by having the nerve to responding to it with truth and fact that pwns me ... thread ... * ...


:rofl:

if you can't post to the topic, please refrain from posting at all. Thanks.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:24pm
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh267/tinkerbell_in_texas/2010_Jul04_959EDT.gif

take a good look at those numbers........ ;)

Exotix
12-12-2010, 12:24pm
if you can't post to the topic, please refrain from posting at all. Thanks.

This is a scathing indictment thread from all sides such that where the proof belies proof based on accepted and esteemed authorities is required ...
I only see your attempt at proof, is by posting from known hacks and quacks to support your damning indictments ...


Seems to me with all the scathing and damning indictments posted you don't actually believe posting *post to topic please* does anything for you in terms of authority and legitimacy ... good thing I have a long experience in dealing with you in this regard ... and know you to take the easy way out if need be ...



http://i55.tinypic.com/nbuq89.gif

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:26pm
This is a scathing indictment thread from all sides such that where the proof belies proof based on accepted and esteemed authorities is required ...
I only see your attempt at proof, is by posting from known hacks and quacks to support your damning indictments ...


Seems to me with all the scathing and damning indictments posted you don't actually believe posting *post to topic please* does anything for you in terms of authority and legitimacy ... good thing I have a long experience in dealing with you in this regard ... and know you to take the easy way out if need be ...



http://i55.tinypic.com/nbuq89.gif

see the post above and attempt to address the topic at hand. if you can.

so NOAA is a hack??? :rofl:

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 12:28pm
Temperature indication and pressure indication instrumentation is notoriously unreliable and the data collected from these instruments has given me much work over the years. When they start to become unreliable they often go full scale and back within a day for sometimes Months on end till someone notices and has the instrument repaired. In business these type of instruments are often graphed over a 24 hour period and checked by an Engineer or such.
I would like to believe this was simply gross incompetence rather than a sinister plot of some type to line someone's pockets.

Kneel. :)

Exotix
12-12-2010, 12:29pm
see the post above and attempt to address the topic at hand. if you can.

so NOAA is a hack??? :rofl:

In many ways I think Al Gore and the algorians are hacks ... but your agenda is even worse ...

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 12:31pm
This is a scathing indictment thread from all sides such that where the proof belies proof based on accepted and esteemed authorities is required ...
I only see your attempt at proof, is by posting from known hacks and quacks to support your damning indictments ...


Seems to me with all the scathing and damning indictments posted you don't actually believe posting *post to topic please* does anything for you in terms of authority and legitimacy ... good thing I have a long experience in dealing with you in this regard ... and know you to take the easy way out if need be ...



http://i55.tinypic.com/nbuq89.gif

So you admit to stalking again. :toetap:

Sorry Tinkerbell.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:32pm
In many ways I think Al Gore and the algorians are hacks ... but your agenda is even worse ...

take a good look at the numbers reported by NOAA, exotix. ;)

and BTW, if you can't address the topic, refrain from posting.

Exotix
12-12-2010, 12:34pm
So you admit to stalking again. :toetap:

Sorry Tinkerbell.

You must've missed post 18 ... http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:36pm
You must've missed post 18 ... http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

address the numbers as reported by NOAA and used in their models. if you can.

Exotix
12-12-2010, 12:41pm
take a good look at the numbers reported by NOAA, exotix. ;)

and BTW, if you can't address the topic, refrain from posting.
address the numbers as reported by NOAA and used in their models. if you can.



Lemme take a stab at it ..

Michigan State University Remote Sensing & GIS Research and Outreach Services was caught in flawed results at -/+ 12-15 degrees so this debunks the entire Global Warming farce and better, the Algorian socialist agenda of Cap & *Tax* ...

I can do better ... I believe the anti-algorians are attacking the science that lead to the *Hole in the Ozone Theory* that started the whole Global Warming Hysteria from way back in the 70's ...

Talk about desperate ... http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:42pm
Lemme take a stab at it ..



I can do better ... I believe the anti-algorians are attacking the science that lead to the *Hole in the Ozone Theory* that started the whole Global Warming Hysteria ...

Talk about desperate ... http://i55.tinypic.com/a0xj82.jpg

so you've got nothing of value to add to this thread topic. Thanks for playing. :seeya:

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 12:42pm
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh267/tinkerbell_in_texas/2010_Jul04_959EDT.gif

take a good look at those numbers........ ;)

Point taken. If it was one or two instruments you could easily say it was an "oversight" but that many points to something else going on like an incorrect factor or the decimal point is incorrectly placed within that factor. Easy mistake to make.
Once again I would like to think this is a mistake rather than something sinister.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:45pm
Point taken. If it was one or two instruments you could easily say it was an "oversight" but that many points to something else going on like an incorrect factor or the decimal point is incorrectly placed within that factor. Easy mistake to make.
Once again I would like to think this is a mistake rather than something sinister.

Thank you for actually looking at the numbers as reported by NOAA.
:thumbs:

Exotix
12-12-2010, 12:51pm
Point taken.
If it was one or two instruments you could easily say it was an "oversight" but that many points to something else going on like an incorrect factor or the decimal point is incorrectly placed within that factor.

Easy mistake to make.

Once again I would like to think this is a mistake rather than something sinister.

Thank you for actually looking at the numbers as reported by NOAA.
:thumbs:

You two should get a room ...


:rofl:


:seeya:

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 12:55pm
You two should get a room ...


:rofl:


:seeya:

do you or do you not have anything, anything at all, of value to the discussion?

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 12:57pm
Point taken. If it was one or two instruments you could easily say it was an "oversight" but that many points to something else going on like an incorrect factor or the decimal point is incorrectly placed within that factor. Easy mistake to make.
Once again I would like to think this is a mistake rather than something sinister.

Thank you for actually looking at the numbers as reported by NOAA.
:thumbs:

Address the topic at hand and are valid posts.

Exotix
12-12-2010, 1:02pm
do you or do you not have anything, anything at all, of value to the discussion?

Sure ... what's Tinkerbells' point ... now that she's debunked the entire Global Warming *pro/con consensus* and exposed the entire U.S. Govt. as a fraud ?


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Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 1:05pm
do you or do you not have anything, anything at all, of value to the discussion?

Sure ... what's Tinkerbells' point ... now that she's debunked the entire Global Warming *pro/con consensus* and exposed the entire U.S. Govt. as a fraud ?


http://i54.tinypic.com/19lro.gif

see above.

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 1:19pm
So it is safe to assume that Michigan State University and GIS Research dont check or double check their information before posting it as fact?????

Surely that must impact on their credability as a teaching institution?
Students at the University have not questioned this prior to posting????

Exotix
12-12-2010, 1:23pm
So it is safe to assume that Michigan State University and GIS Research dont check or double check their information before posting it as fact?????

Surely that must impact on their credability as a teaching institution?
Students at the University have not questioned this prior to posting????

Makes for good education furthering the frontiers of science through hypothesis and dissertation and proof and dis-proof that expands and creates a ****-load of jobs ...

Much to the chagrin of the right who are desperately trying to take us back to the 11th century where scholars and enlightend ones were burned at the stake as heretics ...


Sad.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 1:31pm
Makes for good education furthering the frontiers of science through hypothesis and dissertation and proof and dis-proof that expands and creates a ****-load of jobs ...

Much to the chagrin of the right who are desperately trying to take us back to the 11th century where scholars and enlightend ones were burned at the stake as heretics ...


Sad.

stay on topic. if you can. or go away. Go and make your own thread.

Peter Pan
12-12-2010, 2:54pm
Not having anything to do with BP those numbers are cooked:dance:

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 3:25pm
Hummm is anyone beginning to see a typical forum pattern here ... :D

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 3:26pm
Hummm is anyone beginning to see a typical forum pattern here ... :D

As Tinker would say ... Stay On Topic. :D

Or are the rules different for youz guyz? :toetap: :slap:

Exotix
12-12-2010, 4:27pm
As Tinker would say ... Stay On Topic.

Or are the rules different for youz guyz?

... depends on what the definition of staying on topic by youz guize is ... is ...

I mean, she's got the same identical topic going on over on the *other forum* and it's gett'n hijacked all to hell ... even by the mod ... she doesn't seem to mind though ...


http://i55.tinypic.com/5jwgwl.jpg

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 4:29pm
... depends on what the definition of staying on topic by youz guize is ... is ...

I mean, she's got the same idntical topic going on over on the *other forum* and it's gett'n hijacked all to hell ... even by the mod ... she doesn't seem to mind though ...


http://i55.tinypic.com/5jwgwl.jpg

As Tinker would say ... Stay On Topic. :D

Or are the rules different for youz guyz? :toetap:

post to the topic or don't bother posting. Go hijack someone else's thread.

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 4:57pm
... depends on what the definition of staying on topic by youz guize is ... is ...

I mean, she's got the same identical topic going on over on the *other forum* and it's gett'n hijacked all to hell ... even by the mod ... she doesn't seem to mind though ...


http://i55.tinypic.com/5jwgwl.jpg

Sorry Exotic but I just checked and this thread is NOT posted on the other forum.

BTW THIS is Vette Barn.

Kneel 8250
12-12-2010, 4:58pm
Sorry Exotic but I just checked and this thread is NOT posted on the other forum.

BTW THIS is Vette Barn.



I did it again. Sorry Tinkerbell. Hangs his head in shame.

I am trying hard tho. :D

Peter Pan
12-12-2010, 5:15pm
I noticed it must be 100 in the Chicago Bears Football game today, got to be global warming.

ChasC5
12-12-2010, 5:18pm
I noticed it must be 100 in the Chicago Bears Football game today, got to be global warming.

Spoken like a true scientist. Where did you get your PHD? :D

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 5:21pm
I noticed it must be 100 in the Chicago Bears Football game today, got to be global warming.

Thank you for staying on topic! ;) After all.......water temps DO affect air temps.

Tinkerbell in Texas
12-12-2010, 5:21pm
Spoken like a true scientist. Where did you get your PHD? :D

As Tinker would say ... Stay On Topic. :D

Or are the rules different for youz guyz? :toetap:

ahem.