Are there any Birthers in Barn?

[ChasC5]

Can someone convince me that the President Obama isn’t an American Citizen?

Seriously … I’m willing to hear to any intelligent evidence that The United States Secrete Service can’t determine who is a US citizen and who is not.

:toetap:

[Peter Pan]

At this point he is the worst POTUS in my lifetime and we still have more than 900 days remaining, he is running our country like the state of IL, which is broke and tax, tax, tax. Oh that is what is going to happen to the US starting soon to pay for all this spending that my kids will have to pay for.

So was he born in America? Great question that I do not lose any sleep over, I care about the Socalist direction our country is headed in. Yes I have lived in other Socalist Countries and we are going that way, not the freedom I served to protecthttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/eagle.gif

[Cobra4B]

I think he was most likely born in the USA, but when you spend all the money he has to cover up his records and his past it raises suspicion and it should. He's obviously hiding something. Some have siad it's most likely something far less shocking that being born in Kenya... i.e. his real birth cirtificate said "father unknown" and his school records may have been less than spectacular.

I have to think that if he was really not eligible to be POTUS the Clintons would have used that to mop the floor with him in the primaries.

[Z06PDQ]

if it's true,then why didn't McCain jump on it? if he could have proved it,he would have been assured of the presidency. I'll tell ya "why"....it's a lie. :seeya:

[ChasC5]

At this point he is the worst POTUS in my lifetime and we still have more than 900 days remaining, he is running our country like the state of IL, which is broke and tax, tax, tax. Oh that is what is going to happen to the US starting soon to pay for all this spending that my kids will have to pay for.

So was he born in America? Great question that I do not lose any sleep over, I care about the Socalist direction our country is headed in. Yes I have lived in other Socalist Countries and we are going that way, not the freedom I served to protecthttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/eagle.gif

And there you have it; Ladies and Gentlemen: This is a perfect example of what the Right does when they are asked to participate in an Adult Debate.

Yea yea I know, you don’t like Obama, he’s a Socialist, Antichrist, Immigrant who hates White People, does Mind Control on little children who was born on the Plant Liberal … yadayadayada

Focus Grasshopper … did you forget the original question … what with all this misdirection type statements. :o_o:

[ChasC5]

I think he was most likely born in the USA, but when you spend all the money he has to cover up his records and his past it raises suspicion and it should. He's obviously hiding something. Some have siad it's most likely something far less shocking that being born in Kenya... i.e. his real birth cirtificate said "father unknown" and his school records may have been less than spectacular.

I have to think that if he was really not eligible to be POTUS the Clintons would have used that to mop the floor with him in the primaries.

Yea … because he always knew he would one day run for President of The United State. :lolsmile:

[Z06PDQ]

And there you have it; Ladies and Gentlemen: This is a perfect example of what the Right does when they are asked to participate in an Adult Debate.

Yea yea I know, you don’t like Obama, he’s a Socialist, Antichrist, Immigrant who hates White People, does Mind Control on little children who was born on the Plant Liberal … yadayadayada

Focus Grasshopper … did you forget the original question … what with all this misdirection type statements. :o_o:

you forgot to mention the fact that he kills White babies & eats them. [after he rapes them, of course] :lol:

[Peter Pan]

And there you have it; Ladies and Gentlemen: This is a perfect example of what the Right does when they are asked to participate in an Adult Debate.

Yea yea I know, you don’t like Obama, he’s a Socialist, Antichrist, Immigrant who hates White People, does Mind Control on little children who was born on the Plant Liberal … yadayadayada

Focus Grasshopper … did you forget the original question … what with all this misdirection type statements. :o_o:

Obama is a Socialist, no where in any of my post do I say he is a racist who hates whites. And I did put my answer in that I do not care today if he was born in America, that was determined during the 08 elections. If he was not born here I am sure it would have already been proved. At this point that is not important he is POTUS and is leading us down the wrong path of spending what we do not have. 3 Trillion deficts in two years makes what any other president has spent look like peanuts:yesnod::yesnod:

[Z06PDQ]

one minute he's a socialist, the next minute he's just doing the same thing W did & calling it hope & change. :confused5: I guess old W is a socialist,too? what else could it be?

[ChasC5]

Obama is a Socialist, no where in any of my post do I say he is a racist who hates whites. And I did put my answer in that I do not care today if he was born in America, that was determined during the 08 elections. If he was not born here I am sure it would have already been proved. At this point that is not important he is POTUS and is leading us down the wrong path of spending what we do not have. 3 Trillion deficts in two years makes what any other president has spent look like peanuts:yesnod::yesnod:

Ok … so you’re not a Wako. That’s reassuring. :lolsmile:


So did you Vote for “W”?

Because he was working with a Surplus and left the office in January 2009 with a Deficit!

Any comment on the direction George W Bush took the country?

If you going to compare 8 years of Bush to 18 months to Obama … please pick any 18 months within 96 Bush had.

[Peter Pan]

one minute he's a socialist, the next minute he's just doing the same thing W did & calling it hope & change. :confused5: I guess old W is a socialist,too? what else could it be?

Obama is and where ever have I stated anything about W being the same? Oh never:cheers:

[ChasC5]

Obama is and where ever have I stated anything about W being the same? Oh never:cheers:

Ain’t that the truth … they are not the same. :D

[Peter Pan]

Ok … so you’re not a Wako. That’s reassuring. :lolsmile:


So did you Vote for “W”?

Because he was working with a Surplus and left the office in January 2009 with a Deficit!

Any comment on the direction George W Bush took the country?

If you going to compare 8 years of Bush to 18 months to Obama … please pick any 18 months within 96 Bush had.

Under Clinton he cut welfare, the military in half, and did not give the handouts Obama is doing that so far leave us with 9.5% unemployment when the stimilus would never get above 8%, but you knew that already. Bush did have the longest jobs growth in our history 52 months, Clinton and Regan also had great track records, Obama has lost jobs since he took over, look at unemployment?

U.S. Budget and Economy: Are the 52 Months of Job Growth Under Bush Significant? (http://usbudget.blogspot.com/2008/05/are-52-months-of-job-growth-under-bush.html)

The last two years of the Bush's second term is when congress was controlled by demos and those are the two biggest defictis of his 8 years, oh the demos are atleast half responsible for this, compared to the first two years of Obamanic's of 3 trillion in deficts, no one in our history has spent like this not even the attacks that always come out against W:cheers:

[ChasC5]

Under Clinton he cut welfare, the military in half, and did not give the handouts Obama is doing that so far leave us with 9.5% unemployment when the stimilus would never get above 8%, but you knew that already. Bush did have the longest jobs growth in our history 52 months, Clinton and Regan also had great track records, Obama has lost jobs since he took over, look at unemployment?

U.S. Budget and Economy: Are the 52 Months of Job Growth Under Bush Significant? (http://usbudget.blogspot.com/2008/05/are-52-months-of-job-growth-under-bush.html)

The last two years of the Bush's second term is when congress was controlled by demos and those are the two biggest defictis of his 8 years, oh the demos are atleast half responsible for this, compared to the first two years of Obamanic's of 3 trillion in deficts, no one in our history has spent like this not even the attacks that always come out against W:cheers:

Ok let’s get a grip on reality guys … I understand the Righties don’t like Obama, but please not everyone was asleep on January 20th 2009. Man took over a deficit and had to spend money to stop the bleeding. ALL THE FINACIAL EXPERTS, including those within the Bush Administration, agreed this spending had to happen to slow down the crash. And guess what … the CRASH DID SLOW DOWN! As for the unemployment, we didn’t go from 5% unemployment to 9.5% in 18 months, so just stop it with the BS numbers, because really smart people are not swayed by such BS. Those are great talking points if you’re a bobbing head on Fox News or Rush Limbaugh boot licker. But those of us who can actually think on their own without Fox and Friends telling us how to think, know the economy and unemployment had already gone south the day Obama was taking office. He’s been trying to clean up the mess for the last 18 months.

[ChasC5]

SO IS IT SAFE TO SAY; THERE ARE NO BIRTHERS IN THE BARN? :D

If so, I'll move on to the next Wacko Talking Point. :lolsmile:

[1TZSLO]

All I noticed besides the economy going kaput was the lowest Military raise in 10 years from Obama. I didn't vote for him. and Talking about Jan 20th, Its sad to say but 30% of his voters voted for him because he was black and no other reason thats a given. Sweet we made history and we are still making it.... Just wait another year and see where we stand

[ChasC5]

All I noticed besides the economy going kaput was the lowest Military raise in 10 years from Obama. I didn't vote for him. and Talking about Jan 20th, Its sad to say but 30% of his voters voted for him because he was black and no other reason thats a given. Sweet we made history and we are still making it.... Just wait another year and see where we stand

NEWS FLASH:

The line for Raises is just as long as the Unemployment Line. Wow … Military Raise were low this year … duaaaaa yea think. :willy:

Some people would have been happy to not lose their Jobs over the last two years!

So are you saying the Economy is worse NOW than it was on January 20th 2009, just “18” months ago?

Yea Yea I know ... The Republicans think those who are Unemployed are just Lazy. :D

Thank God they understand ... :skep:

[Peter Pan]

NEWS FLASH:

The line for Raises is just as long as the Unemployment Line. Wow … Military Raise were low this year … duaaaaa yea think. :willy:

Some people would have been happy to not lose their Jobs over the last two years!

So are you saying the Economy is worse NOW than it was on January 20th 2009, just “18” months ago?

Yea Yea I know ... The Republicans think those who are Unemployed are just Lazy. :D

Thank God they understand ... :skep:

Lets see unemployment benefits under the old system was 6 months, then congress passed it to one year under this term of congress and want to increase it to 99 weeks, it does not take that long to find a job, it may not be the one you want but there are jobs out there, you keep letting us know how good Obama is doing yes the handouts do look good to sit on your ass for a year and possible 99 weeks at my expense. The economy now has 9.5% unemployed and it was no where this high in Jan 09 and not supposed to go over 8% if we passed stimilus (words from Obama himself).

Yes the volunteers that keep us free did not get much of a raise, how about the Seniors, they got a freeze and the Part B premiums go up every year, so they took a cut. Lets see the Seniors will have to take cuts in there Health Care coverage under the HC bill passed so those younger can get insurance. Oh another thread for this:D

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/15/senate-nears-restoring-jobless-benefits/?test=latestnews

[ChasC5]

Lets see unemployment benefits under the old system was 6 months, then congress passed it to one year under this term of congress and want to increase it to 99 weeks, it does not take that long to find a job, it may not be the one you want but there are jobs out there, you keep letting us know how good Obama is doing yes the handouts do look good to sit on your ass for a year and possible 99 weeks at my expense. The economy now has 9.5% unemployed and it was no where this high in Jan 09 and not supposed to go over 8% if we passed stimilus (words from Obama himself).

Yes the volunteers that keep us free did not get much of a raise, how about the Seniors, they got a freeze and the Part B premiums go up every year, so they took a cut. Lets see the Seniors will have to take cuts in there Health Care coverage under the HC bill passed so those younger can get insurance. Oh another thread for this:D

FOXNews.com - Senate Nears Restoring Jobless Benefits (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/15/senate-nears-restoring-jobless-benefits/?test=latestnews)



It did after September 11 ... and the economy wasn't as bad.

[Z06PDQ]

3/4 million jobs lost in W's last month on the job. nobody can live on unemployment pay, but yeah let's cut 'em off. let's raise the retirement age to 70 & kill that damned socialist Medicare. if they don't starve to death or die from lack of medical care, we'll let them stay & pay more taxes while the rich get another free ride while hiding the bulk of their money in offshore accounts . helluva game plan Pubs. :seeya:

[Peter Pan]

3/4 million jobs lost in W's last month on the job. nobody can live on unemployment pay, but yeah let's cut 'em off. let's raise the retirement age to 70 & kill that damned socialist Medicare. if they don't starve to death or die from lack of medical care, we'll let them stay & pay more taxes while the rich get another free ride while hiding the bulk of their money in offshore accounts . helluva game plan Pubs. :seeya:

Yes 3/4 million jobs were lost in Ws last month. You are right no one can live on unemployment, go out and get a job, so be it may be a pay cut, been there done that and currently have a cut in my income, reason I cut the payroll by 2/3 thirds, I needed to feed my family, pay for others on the Govt roles. The big answer on retirement age is for all parties to stop stealing the money working Americans send in for social security and medicare taxes already. Medicare for the first time since the law was signed will see cutbacks under the newly signed HC bill to the tune of $50 billion a year, Demos did this not pubs when you get old just die when you get sick. Seems if you worked your whole life paid into Medicare you would not expect cuts that the Demos and Obama have put into law and the cuts start Jan 1, 2011. Did you see the Federal Health Care Rates for the sick and uninsurable in Texas, sure you did you see all my posts. What is affordable about the Federal Program? The rich (I am not wish I was), pay more than there fair share of taxes already so others can spunge off them. Only your first point is valid on W, the rest are just Libs talking points:seeya:

[ChasC5]

Yes 3/4 million jobs were lost in Ws last month. You are right no one can live on unemployment, go out and get a job, so be it may be a pay cut, been there done that and currently have a cut in my income, reason I cut the payroll by 2/3 thirds, I needed to feed my family, pay for others on the Govt roles. The big answer on retirement age is for all parties to stop stealing the money working Americans send in for social security and medicare taxes already. Medicare for the first time since the law was signed will see cutbacks under the newly signed HC bill to the tune of $50 billion a year, Demos did this not pubs when you get old just die when you get sick. Seems if you worked your whole life paid into Medicare you would not expect cuts that the Demos and Obama have put into law and the cuts start Jan 1, 2011. Did you see the Federal Health Care Rates for the sick and uninsurable in Texas, sure you did you see all my posts. What is affordable about the Federal Program? The rich (I am not wish I was), pay more than there fair share of taxes already so others can spunge off them. Only your first point is valid on W, the rest are just Libs talking points:seeya:




Why don’t you ask your corporate friends to hire them? :o_o:

Since less Government is the battle cry, then you take care of the unemployed. :D

[Peter Pan]

Why don’t you ask your corporate friends to hire them? :o_o:

Since less Government is the battle cry, then you take care of the unemployed. :D

Smart ass why don't you ask your corporate friends to hire them?http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/elsloan22/emotions/thdramaqueen2.jpg


I have been taking care of them I am one of the 53% paying not enough taxes according to you, Taxed Enough Already:lol:

[1TZSLO]

NEWS FLASH:

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Yea Yea I know ... The Republicans think those who are Unemployed are just Lazy. :D

:

I bet 40% of them are. Seriously why try to get a job if the government will give you free money

[ChasC5]

I bet 40% of them are. Seriously why try to get a job if the government will give you free money

People who know what Unemployment Insurance is, knows the only way you get it is if you were employed. Unemployment is paid out to those who are who are discharged in good standing. If anyone is getting Free Government Money, it is because Corporations are not monitoring where their Unemployment Insurance dollars are going.

Of course, people who manage and or owns business would know that.

[Z06PDQ]

so I guess we all agree. Obama is a natural born American citizen. see, that didn't hurt, did it? :D

[1TZSLO]

so I guess we all agree. Obama is a natural born American citizen. see, that didn't hurt, did it? :D

I could care less honestly. Just fix our economy

[ChasC5]

I could care less honestly. Just fix our economy

Your solution will make you a Millionaire … please share your solution and when you will start saving the United States? :D

[1TZSLO]

Your solution will make you a Millionaire … please share your solution and when you will start saving the United States? :D

Wouldnt matter if I had an Idea. Noone in congress listens to someone outside of their tax bracket or Party

[ChasC5]

Wouldnt matter if I had an Idea. Noone in congress listens to someone outside of their tax bracket or Party

Ok … I’ll put you down as a “no”. :D

As soon as you find someone with all the answers … ask then to share it with the class. :lolsmile:

If the Job was easy, everyone would be doing it. :cheers:

[1TZSLO]

Ok … I’ll put you down as a “no”. :D

As soon as you find someone with all the answers … ask then to share it with the class. :lolsmile:

If the Job was easy, everyone would be doing it. :cheers:

I honestly don't think you understood my orignal statement. You said can we all agree that Obama is a Natural born American citizen. I said I don't care just fix our economy.
And you responded with useless rebuttle thus furthering why you also can not come up with a solution to fix our economy but hey I can't either.

But also, the president has not once ever concieved his own idea to help fix our economy, so he really is never to blame. But he is our iconic figure to praise or blame in times of joy or depression. When an Idea comes from his cabinet they will let him know and then he will tell us and we will praise him before Allah as our savior.

We don't need ALL the answers we just need an Answer. Not to fix it all but to fix a small part and grow from that. you can't fix the whole puzzle without putting smaller pieces together.

[Z06PDQ]

if you want the economy back to 15k Dow with everyone working & housing prices skyrocketing again, I hate to tell ya.but that ain't gonna happen. we *did* stop the slide into possibly the greatest depression known to man, though. that much is fact. where it goes from here is anyone's guess. I think by 2012 people are going to vote their pocketbooks & if the economy is no worse than it is now they'll keep the Pubs out. JMO :D

[1TZSLO]

if you want the economy back to 15k Dow with everyone working & housing prices skyrocketing again, I hate to tell ya.but that ain't gonna happen. :D

Eventually it will. Everything comes full circle.

[ChasC5]

I honestly don't think you understood my orignal statement. You said can we all agree that Obama is a Natural born American citizen. I said I don't care just fix our economy.
And you responded with useless rebuttle thus furthering why you also can not come up with a solution to fix our economy but hey I can't either.

But also, the president has not once ever concieved his own idea to help fix our economy, so he really is never to blame. But he is our iconic figure to praise or blame in times of joy or depression. When an Idea comes from his cabinet they will let him know and then he will tell us and we will praise him before Allah as our savior.

We don't need ALL the answers we just need an Answer. Not to fix it all but to fix a small part and grow from that. you can't fix the whole puzzle without putting smaller pieces together.



AllRighty Then ... Praise Allah ?:skep:

Hummmmm ... interesting .... :skep:


Is that you Bin Laden? :D

[1TZSLO]

AllRighty Then ... Praise Allah ?:skep:

Hummmmm ... interesting .... :skep:


Is that you Bin Laden? :D

I guess that went over your head.

[ChasC5]

I guess that went over your head.

Yep … went completely over my head, maybe you can enlighten me.

What exactly does the phrase “Praise Allah” and President Obama have in common? :toetap:

[1TZSLO]

Yep … went completely over my head, maybe you can enlighten me.

What exactly does the phrase “Praise Allah” and President Obama have in common? :toetap:

Seems how we are way off the OP anyway, When running for president everyone tried to connect Barack with radical muslim because of his name and Ideas. Even though he went to that Trinity church.
Thus the comment I made.

[ChasC5]

Seems how we are way off the OP anyway, When running for president everyone tried to connect Barack with radical muslim because of his name and Ideas. Even though he went to that Trinity church.
Thus the comment I made.

Ohhh … ok … my bad. :cheers:

But now (Tuesday the 20th; 2010) we should all know he’s just as much Muslim as you or I and his “ideas” are no more sinister than any other politician or American patriot. His tan should have little to do with his decisions making. Either you like his decision or you don’t, period.


BTW … I went to “That Trinity Church” twice back in the late 90s, never once seen that Preacher and never once did they say anything about Hating White People. It was just a typical church that fall asleep in. :D

But don’t tell anyone, I may run for President one day. :D

[1TZSLO]

Ohhh …

But don’t tell anyone, I may run for President one day. :D

Thats just like saying, I didn't inhale oh wait a president already said that!:beer:

[ChasC5]

Thats just like saying, I didn't inhale oh wait a president already said that!:beer:

I did inhale and I still grew up ... eventually I did ... a little. :D

[ChasC5]

It's official ... http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/201031.jpg

and .. scooped by The CF Obama African Birth Certificate! - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/politics-religion-and-controversy/2643732-obama-african-birth-certificate.html)

I'm expecting Fox News to be all over this ... :lolsmile:

[1TZSLO]

Haha thats F ucking funny

[ChasC5]

"Will you tell those dumbasses at the Tea Party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on camera." He added, laughing: "God, what am I supposed to do?"


GOP Senate Candidate Ken Buck Calls Birthers "Dumbasses" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011650-503544.html)

:lolsmile: