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onedef92
03-12-2012, 10:50am
US Army sergeant kills 16 in Afghan villages

Posted: Mar 11, 2012 12:54 AM EST
Updated: Mar 12, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) - Moving from house to house, a U.S. Army sergeant opened fire Sunday on Afghan villagers as they slept, killing 16 people - mostly women and children - in an attack that reignited fury at the U.S. presence following a wave of deadly protests over Americans burning Qurans.

The attack threatened the deepest breach yet in U.S.-Afghan relations, raising questions both in Washington and Kabul about why American troops are still fighting in Afghanistan after 10 years of conflict and the killing of Osama bin Laden.

The slayings, one of the worst atrocities committed by U.S. forces during the Afghan war, came amid deepening public outrage spurred by last month's Quran burnings and an earlier video purportedly showing U.S. Marines urinating on dead Taliban militants.

The Quran burnings sparked weeks of violent protests and attacks that left some 30 Afghans dead, despite an apology from President Barack Obama. Six U.S. service members were also killed by their fellow Afghan soldiers, although the tensions had just started to calm down.

According to U.S. and Afghan officials, Sunday's attack began around 3 a.m. in two villages in Panjwai district, a rural region outside Kandahar that is the cradle of the Taliban and where coalition forces have fought for control for years. The villages are about 500 yards (meters) from a U.S. base in a region that was the focus of Obama's military surge strategy in the south starting in 2009.

Villagers described cowering in fear as gunshots rang out as a soldier roamed from house to house firing on those inside. They said he entered three homes in all and set fire to some of the bodies. Eleven of the dead were from a single family, and nine of the victims were children.

U.S. officials said the shooter, identified as an Army staff sergeant, acted alone, leaving his base in southern Afghanistan and opening fire on sleeping families in two villages. Initial reports indicated he returned to the base after the shooting and turned himself in. He was in custody at a NATO base in Afghanistan.

The suspect, from Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash., was assigned to support a special operations unit of either Green Berets or Navy SEALs engaged in a village stability operation, said a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still ongoing.

Such operations are among NATO's best hopes for transitioning out of Afghanistan, pairing special operations troops with villagers chosen by village elders to become essentially a sanctioned, armed neighborhood watch.

Some residents said they believed there were multiple attackers, given the carnage.

"One man can't kill so many people. There must have been many people involved," Bacha Agha of Balandi village told The Associated Press. "If the government says this is just one person's act we will not accept it. ... After killing those people they also burned the bodies."

In a statement, Afghan President Hamid Karzai left open the possibility of more than one shooter. He initially spoke of a single U.S. gunman, then referred to "American forces" entering houses. The statement quoted a 15-year-old survivor named Rafiullah, who was shot in the leg, as telling Karzai in a phone call that "soldiers" broke into his house, woke up his family and began shooting them.

"This is an assassination, an intentional killing of innocent civilians and cannot be forgiven," Karzai said.

Obama phoned the Afghan leader to express his shock and sadness, and offered condolences to the grieving families and to the people of Afghanistan.

In a statement released by the White House, Obama called the attack "tragic and shocking" and not representative of "the exceptional character of our military and the respect that the United States has for the people of Afghanistan." He vowed "to get the facts as quickly as possible and to hold accountable anyone responsible."

The violence over the Quran burnings had already spurred calls in the U.S. for a faster exit strategy from the 10-year-old Afghan war. Obama even said recently that "now is the time for us to transition." But he also said he had no plan to change the current timetable that has Afghans taking control of security countrywide by the end of 2014.

In the wake of the Quran burnings, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, visited troops at a base that was attacked last month and urged them not to give in to the impulse for revenge.

The tensions between the two countries had appeared to be easing as recently as Friday, when the two governments signed a memorandum of understanding about the transfer of Afghan detainees to Afghan control - a key step toward an eventual strategic partnership to govern U.S. forces in the country.

Now, another wave of anti-American hatred could threaten the entire future of the mission, fueling not only anger among the Afghans whom the coalition is supposed to be defending but also encouraging doubts among U.S. political figures that the long and costly war is worth the sacrifice in lives and treasury.

"This is a fatal hammer blow on the U.S. military mission in Afghanistan. Whatever sliver of trust and credibility we might have had following the burnings of the Quran is now gone," said David Cortright, the director of policy studies at Notre Dame's Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies and an advocate for a quick withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Gen. Allen offered his regret and "deepest condolences" to the Afghan people for the shootings and vowed to make sure that "anyone who is found to have committed wrongdoing is held fully accountable."

"This deeply appalling incident in no way represents the values of ISAF and coalition troops or the abiding respect we feel for the Afghan people," Allen said in a statement, using the abbreviation for NATO's International Security Assistance Force.

In Panjwai district on Sunday, grieving residents tried to make sense of why they were targeted.

"No Taliban were here. No gunbattle was going on," cried out one woman, who said four people were killed in the village of Alokzai, all members of her family. "We don't know why this foreign soldier came and killed our innocent family members. Either he was drunk or he enjoyed killing civilians."

The other 12 dead were from Balandi village, said Samad Khan, a farmer who lost all 11 members of his family, including women and children. Khan was away from the village when the attack occurred and returned to find his family members shot and burned. One of his neighbors was also killed, he said.

"This is an anti-human and anti-Islamic act," Khan said. "Nobody is allowed in any religion in the world to kill children and women."

One woman opened a blue blanket with pink flowers to reveal the body of her 2-year-old child, who was wearing a blood-soaked shirt.

"Was this child Taliban? There is no Taliban here" said Gul Bushra. The Americans "are always threatening us with dogs and helicopters during night raids."

Dozens of villagers crowded the streets as minibuses and trucks carried away the dead to be washed for burial. One man used the edge of his brown shawl to wipe away tears.

Officials wearing white plastic gloves picked up bullet casings from the floor of a house and put them in a plastic bag.

An AP photographer saw 15 bodies in the two villages, some of them burned and other covered with blankets. A young boy partially wrapped in a blanket was in the back of a minibus, dried blood crusted on his face and pooled in his ear. His loose-fitting brown pants were partly burned, revealing a leg charred by fire.

It was unclear how or why the bodies were burned, though villagers showed journalists the blood-stained corner of a house where blankets and possibly bodies were set on fire.

International forces have fought for control of Panjwai for years, trying to subdue the Taliban in their rural strongholds. The Taliban movement started just to the north of Panjwai and many of the militant group's senior leaders, including chief Mullah Mohammed Omar, were born, raised, fought or preached in the area.

The district has also been a key Taliban base for targeting neighboring Kandahar city and U.S. forces flooded the province as part of Obama's strategy to surge in the south starting in 2009.

The Taliban called the shootings the latest sign that international forces are working against the Afghan people.

"The so-called American peacekeepers have once again quenched their thirst with the blood of innocent Afghan civilians in Kandahar province," the Taliban said in a statement posted on a website used by the insurgent group.

U.S. forces have been implicated before in other violence in the same area.

Four soldiers from a Stryker brigade out of Lewis-McChord, Washington, have been sent to prison in connection with the 2010 killing of three unarmed men during patrols in Kandahar province's Maiwand district, which is just northwest of Panjwai. They were accused of forming a "kill team" that murdered Afghan civilians for sport - slaughtering victims with grenades and powerful machine guns during patrols, then dropping weapons near their bodies to make them appear to have been combatants.

Obama has apologized for the Quran burnings and said they were a mistake. The Qurans and other Islamic books were taken from a detention facility and dumped in a burn pit last month because they were believed to contain extremist messages or inscriptions. A military official said at the time that it appeared detainees were exchanging messages by making notations in the texts.

Sea Six
03-12-2012, 11:49am
Oh, for God's sake.

:sadangel:

Joecooool
03-12-2012, 12:12pm
The repercussions from this are going to be terrible.

6spdC6
03-12-2012, 12:24pm
I wonder if he screamed Allah Akbar when he did his killing?

I thought that phrase was a super get out of jail card in that enlighted land!

R.Zaragoza
03-12-2012, 1:38pm
The repercussions from this are going to be terrible.

Repercussions from the White House or from the Afghans.

RedLS1GTO
03-12-2012, 2:34pm
Repercussions from the White House or from the Afghans.

Oh.... there is no doubt that Odumbass will be bowing down, apologizing, and giving handjobs.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-12-2012, 4:26pm
Oh.... there is no doubt that Odumbass will be bowing down, apologizing, and giving handjobs.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0qfc7lJJX1qiuyv3.gif

mrvette
03-12-2012, 6:17pm
Course if I had been POTUS this entire affair would have been over with some 10 years ago....shortest war in history....

no more islam either....


:seasix:

Burro (He/Haw)
03-12-2012, 6:28pm
Course if I had been POTUS this entire affair would have been over with some 10 years ago
But you're not POTUS. He is. And lets face it, that's the problem. Anyone who might actually DO something wants nothing to do with the job.

mrvette
03-12-2012, 7:15pm
But you're not POTUS. He is. And lets face it, that's the problem. Anyone who might actually DO something wants nothing to do with the job.

Tell me about it, known enough over the years there, wanna know what goes on in the office??

ask the secretary, NOT the boss......

true....BTDT....

:sadangel::leaving:

Burro (He/Haw)
03-12-2012, 7:43pm
Oh.... there is no doubt that Odumbass will be bowing down, apologizing, and giving handjobs.

What should Obama's response be to American soldiers gunning down women and children?

PortDawg
03-12-2012, 7:58pm
What should Obama's response be to American soldiers gunning down women and children?

What should be the Taliban response be to killing 3000+ innocent people....?

(BTW, I think what the dude did is reprehensible)

Burro (He/Haw)
03-12-2012, 8:07pm
What should be the Taliban response be to killing 3000+ innocent people....?

(BTW, I think what the dude did is reprehensible)
Two wrongs don't make a right. I learned that as a child. Wanna try to answer my question now?

mrvette
03-12-2012, 8:51pm
What should be the Taliban response be to killing 3000+ innocent people....?

(BTW, I think what the dude did is reprehensible)

NO, What is RONG is our .gov handling of the islamic wars.....

they subject a man with family responsibilities to 3? tours in iraq and then another in trashcanistan?? for WHAT avail??

he set there as a target, ordered to build a new society out of cavemen, and somehow rebuilding/building hospitals and schools MEAN anything to those 6th century residents?? really??

and so the guy gets tired of getting shot at and trying to survive...finally breaks under the unrelenting pressures, like viet nam all over again....

fighting a endless war led by stupid jerks in DC, and he is somehow supposed to be super human???

BULLSHIT!!! methinks he needs sent home and gets a medal for his service, and some help/counseling and a good job/career.....

:sadangel::leaving:

some of you maybe toss him under the PC bus, but not ME.....

:issues:

PortDawg
03-12-2012, 9:21pm
NO, What is RONG is our .gov handling of the islamic wars.....

they subject a man with family responsibilities to 3? tours in iraq and then another in trashcanistan?? for WHAT avail??

he set there as a target, ordered to build a new society out of cavemen, and somehow rebuilding/building hospitals and schools MEAN anything to those 6th century residents?? really??

and so the guy gets tired of getting shot at and trying to survive...finally breaks under the unrelenting pressures, like viet nam all over again....

fighting a endless war led by stupid jerks in DC, and he is somehow supposed to be super human???

BULLSHIT!!! methinks he needs sent home and gets a medal for his service, and some help/counseling and a good job/career.....

:sadangel::leaving:

some of you maybe toss him under the PC bus, but not ME.....

:issues:

That pretty much covers it, except for that pesky Rules of Armed Combat thing we all learn about. The military should deal with this, the President should have made a statement saying the actions were regrettable but would be dealt with under the UCMJ and that should've been it.

I'm still waiting for the apologies from them for Michael Berg and Daniel Pearl.

Or maybe the Contractors that were shot, dragged through the streets, burned alive and hung from the bridge in Fallujah.

Or the apology for my two friends killed by a VBIED on Rt Irish on 8 Nov 2004.

We really owe NO ONE any apologies at this point. Screw them....

I promise you there were signs this was coming and shame on his leadership for not seeing it.

He deserves to receive punishment, he also deserves to get help, unfortunately, it took this very sad occurrence to get someone to recognize the cry for help.

I feel for the loss of civilian lives. I also pray for those Military/Contractors still there, they will bear the brunt of this.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-13-2012, 4:55am
What should Obama's response be to American soldiers gunning down women and children?

Port? Gene?

PortDawg
03-13-2012, 5:07am
Port? Gene?

See above...

And it was one, singular soldier....

Torqaholic
03-13-2012, 6:03am
What should Obama's response be to American soldiers gunning down women and children?

There are procedures for dealing with such criminals and they don't require a president sticking his nose into the process at this point in time. He needs to let the system work.

As for dealing with foreign countries in matters such as this, that is the job of Secretary of State. But yet once again he just can't help but help but flap his piehole as if everyone gives a shit about his personal opinion and his word is law. We have laws and he ain't it.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-13-2012, 6:22am
There are procedures for dealing with such criminals and they don't require a president sticking his nose into the process at this point in time. He needs to let the system work.
I'm clueless regarding matters such as this, I was just curious.

He deserves to receive punishment, he also deserves to get help, unfortunately, it took this very sad occurrence to get someone to recognize the cry for help.
**** DEVILS ADVOCATE RESPONSE****

This appears to be a Liberal mindset. "Oh, he needs help. This is isn't his fault" So personal responsibility be damned in all matters military?

RedLS1GTO
03-13-2012, 6:32am
The military should deal with this, the President should have made a statement saying the actions were regrettable but would be dealt with under the UCMJ and that should've been it.

We really owe NO ONE any apologies at this point. Screw them....


There are procedures for dealing with such criminals and they don't require a president sticking his nose into the process at this point in time. He needs to let the system work.

As for dealing with foreign countries in matters such as this, that is the job of Secretary of State. But yet once again he just can't help but help but flap his piehole as if everyone gives a shit about his personal opinion and his word is law. We have laws and he ain't it.

:iagree: x2

If he wants to get his nose in it, he should say that it is being dealt with in accordance with the law and that's it. The President of the United States should not be acting like a little bitch saying I'm sorry to some piece of shit, desolate wasteland that is responsible for the deaths of so many of ours.

Instead, we have some politically correct asshole who is more worried about apologizing than he is about our own men and women in uniform. Fu*k Obama... he is a worthless piece of shit and an absolute disgrace to serve under.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-13-2012, 6:34am
he is a worthless piece of shit and an absolute disgrace to serve under
Are you currently serving under Nobama?

RedLS1GTO
03-13-2012, 6:37am
Are you currently serving under Nobama?

Not currently. If I was, I wouldn't say it no matter how much I wanted to.

... but I did serve under him and many of my friends still are. Pretty much every one of them would say the same thing (behind closed doors of course).

Burro (He/Haw)
03-13-2012, 8:02am
Not currently. If I was, I wouldn't say it no matter how much I wanted to.

... but I did serve under him.

Noted.

As an aside, I do have an observation and few comments. I never served in the military, but I have NOTHING but respect and support for our men and women in uniform. This runs counter to the Liberal tag you seem to want to hang on me, but no matter.

I don't understand the Military culture anymore than you understand the Nuclear Power culture that I work in. It's a different animal than any other industrial setting I have been in.

If I'm trying to convince people Nuclear is the preferred way to make energy, screaming "Coal sucks cawk" is going to fall on deaf ears much the same as your "Obama is a piece of shit" position does.

RedLS1GTO
03-13-2012, 8:54am
I don't understand the Military culture anymore than you understand the Nuclear Power culture that I work in. It's a different animal than any other industrial setting I have been in.

Quite a bit of nuclear power floating around in the Navy... :D


As far as the Obama argument, I could go on for days about why I don't like him with regards to everything from his policies to multiple interactions that I have personally had with him (via video teleconference) but in the end, it is the internet and changing someone's mind simply isn't going to happen so it saves quite a bit of time to say he sucks and just leave it at that.

I am not a cut and dried Conservative by any means and I don't hate Obama simply based on his party affiliation. I despise him on his own merits.


You said that I try to hang a liberal tag on you but that is not at all the case. I have admittedly said that some of your comments themselves were very liberal but I don't generalize a person as a whole based on a few comments. :cheers:


On the other hand, if you vote for Obama again... :leaving:

Burro (He/Haw)
03-13-2012, 9:05am
Quite a bit of nuclear power floating around in the Navy...
The industry is full of Navy Nuke folks. Were you on a Nuke?

I have admittedly said that some of your comments themselves were very liberal
There are Liberals, and then there are Liberals. The Kennedy era Liberals are a world apart from today's Liberals.

RedLS1GTO
03-13-2012, 9:14am
The industry is full of Navy Nuke folks. Were you on a Nuke?

I never went through the nuke program but have spent a lot of time riding around on both carriers and subs. Quite a few of my friends are current submarine nuke officers. I took quite a few Nuclear Engineering classes in college and really considered going that route, but decided that I really didn't want to spend my life in the bowels of a sub.



There are Liberals, and then there are Liberals. The Kennedy era Liberals are a world apart from today's Liberals.

This I agree with 100%.

mrvette
03-13-2012, 10:07am
I have always looked at the Kennedy/Humphrey era liberals as being the leading edge of socialism, starting us on a slippery slope and it would eventually lead to full blown socialism.....

I"m right, and damn well know it....

they are PROGRESSIVES.....


:sadangel::leaving:

VITE1
03-13-2012, 4:06pm
So let me get this straight.

An American goes out and blows away 19 muslims and all of Islam is up in arms and all Americans are evil.


Yet they have blown up thousands of Muslims in civilian bombings and Islam is not at fault?

RedLS1GTO
03-13-2012, 4:14pm
So let me get this straight.

An American goes out and blows away 19 muslims and all of Islam is up in arms and all Americans are evil.


Yet they have blown up thousands of Muslims in civilian bombings and Islam is not at fault?

It is best not to try to actually try to apply logic to of any of this stupid shit.


Besides, Islam is the religion of peace.

mrvette
03-13-2012, 4:44pm
It is best not to try to actually try to apply logic to of any of this stupid shit.


Besides, Islam is the religion of peace.

Enough acid to start a car in that post.....


:shots::kimblair:

PortDawg
03-13-2012, 7:08pm
**** DEVILS ADVOCATE RESPONSE****

This appears to be a Liberal mindset. "Oh, he needs help. This is isn't his fault" So personal responsibility be damned in all matters military?

Read the first five words of that sentence I wrote...RIF.

Burro (He/Haw)
03-13-2012, 7:57pm
RIF?

Torqaholic
03-13-2012, 9:07pm
they subject a man with family responsibilities to 3? tours in iraq and then another in trashcanistan??


That's what they're doing to my nephew. It's like prison, he doesn't want to go back and he can't get out of it. His obligation ended about 5 years ago.

Torqaholic
03-13-2012, 9:16pm
RIF?

Are you a Canadian? :rofl:

Reading
Is
Fundamental

ft laud mike
03-14-2012, 12:08am
What should be the Taliban response be to killing 3000+ innocent people....?

(BTW, I think what the dude did is reprehensible)

:waiting:

Burro (He/Haw)
03-14-2012, 6:22am
Are you a Canadian? :rofl:

Reading
Is
Fundamental

Screw those Canadians, coming down here and fuking up my soda machine with their stoopid quarters.

kingpin
03-14-2012, 10:39am
Screw those Canadians, coming down here and fuking up my soda machine with their stoopid quarters.

:hurray:

Burro (He/Haw)
03-14-2012, 11:05am
Are you ignoring the bolded part on purpose?
No, I saw it.

You DO understand the point of my post don't you?

Torqaholic
03-14-2012, 2:26pm
Screw those Canadians, coming down here and fuking up my soda machine with their stoopid quarters.

:rofl:

Norm
03-20-2012, 12:49pm
After reading the headlines today about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try SGT Bales quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury. Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.

So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately. But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous man.

mrvette
03-20-2012, 1:00pm
After reading the headlines today about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try SGT Bales quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury. Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.

So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately. But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous man.

hehehe....GOOD analogy.....well done,

to say the least.....


:seasix::seasix::hurray:

6spdC6
03-20-2012, 1:03pm
After reading the headlines today about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try SGT Bales quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury. Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.

So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately. But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous man.

We have a WINNERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!:seasix:

RedLS1GTO
03-20-2012, 1:18pm
After reading the headlines today about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try SGT Bales quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury. Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.

So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately. But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous man.

Beyond sad...

liberal lefties don't even blink when it is Americans dying, especially American soldiers, yet go apeshit over 16 Afghanis.

BTW, f**k that Muslim piece of sh*t Hasan. Wrap him in bacon, toss him in the middle of the desert and let nature do the rest.

(Use rotted bacon. He isn't worth wasting the good stuff)

Bill
03-20-2012, 4:17pm
After reading the headlines today about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try SGT Bales quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury. Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.

So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately. But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried the murderous man.

While I agree with your point that the dichotomy between rush to justice for the Afghan killer and take their sweet time justice for the Ft. Hood killer is wrong, I will point out that Hassan took out legitimate military targets, whereas the Afghan killer took out non combatant civillians.

Hassan should have already been tried and hung for TREASON. Long ago.

As to the Afghan shooter? I'm not sure. It's quite possible the guy just went nuts, and we don't kill crazy people.

RedLS1GTO
03-20-2012, 4:21pm
I will point out that Hassan took out legitimate military targets...

Are you serious?!?!?!?

You think that unarmed men and women including nurses and doctors in a non-combat area in a f**king medical facility are "legitimate military targets"?????



Wow. Just... wow.

Torqaholic
03-20-2012, 5:12pm
Repercussions from the White House or from the Afghans.

From the media playing this over, and over... ad infinitum.

Sea Six
03-20-2012, 11:19pm
Are you serious?!?!?!?

You think that unarmed men and women including nurses and doctors in a non-combat area in a f**king medical facility are "legitimate military targets"?????



Wow. Just... wow.

No ****ing shit.

Bill, your skull is second in line for in desperate need of a brain enema only to Joecooool.

:kick: