Still think Obama was born in the USA?

[JRD77VET]

BLOCKBUSTER REVELATION! - MINI Documentary - Illegal Obama "Propped Up" By Congress! - YouTube


For those who think the video is bullshit, here's links to each of the proposed bills mentioned

Bill Summary & Status - 108th Congress (2003 - 2004) - H.J.RES.59 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res59:)

Bill Summary & Status - 108th Congress (2003 - 2004) - H.J.RES.67 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res67:)

Bill Summary & Status - 108th Congress (2003 - 2004) - S.2128 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:S2128:)

Bill Summary & Status - 108th Congress (2003 - 2004) - H.J.RES.104 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res104:)

Bill Summary & Status - 109th Congress (2005 - 2006) - H.J.RES.2 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.J.RES.2:)

Bill Summary & Status - 109th Congress (2005 - 2006) - H.J.RES.15 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.J.Res15:)

Bill Summary & Status - 109th Congress (2005 - 2006) - H.J.RES.42 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.J.Res42:)

Bill Summary & Status - 110th Congress (2007 - 2008) - S.2678 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S2678:)

Bill Summary & Status - 110th Congress (2007 - 2008) - S.RES.511 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S.RES.511:)

[mrvette]

Nobam is a fraud from word go....

but the commies in charge of the 'media' keep up the bullshit by not covering the truth....this has been very obvious to me since the days of watching Walter Cronkite as a kid....

:sadangel::kick:

[Vette40th]

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, they still dont act like they are part of the USA. Its a third world country out here.

[Stangkiller]

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, they still dont act like they are part of the USA. Its a third world country out here.

:confused5: third world country is someplace like Haiti or Orlando...Hawaii is a bit closer to paradise.

[Vette40th]

:confused5: third world country is someplace like Haiti or Orlando...Hawaii is a bit closer to paradise.

Its an inside joke here on Oahu. You have to live it. Some parts are not really paradise when you have families living in tents due to cost of living.

[Joecooool]

Dumbest shit ever.

[78SA]

Dumbest shit ever.

Obama sure is. :seasix:

[Z06PDQ]

Dumbest shit ever.

yep. millions of dollars & thousands of man hours wasted in a massive & totally futile circle jerk & they constantly come up empty handed EVERY time. that's hard to do when you are masturbating. :D http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu75/miholo/bOrnintheUSAgetoverit.jpg

[mrvette]

yep. millions of dollars & thousands of man hours wasted in a massive & totally futile circle jerk & they constantly come up empty handed EVERY time. that's hard to do when you are masturbating. :D http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu75/miholo/bOrnintheUSAgetoverit.jpg

Highly doubtful....when the asshole is outta office is when the truth will come out, and if I had access to his records, screw that Exec order, I would publish on the net......what's he going to DO?? cry, that's what.....

:kick::seasix:

[Z06PDQ]

Highly doubtful....when the asshole is outta office is when the truth will come out, and if I had access to his records, screw that Exec order, I would publish on the net......what's he going to DO?? cry, that's what.....

:kick::seasix:
why didn't McCain expose your so called "truth" when it would have insured him the presidency in his last chance at winning?...I'll tell you. John McCain is a lot of things, but he's not a fool.
McCain Supporter: "Obama is an Arab" - YouTube

[mrvette]

McCain is a PROGRESSIVE, just like most of the R candidates.....

Beck explained it all pretty well during his first year at Fox in the 5pm slot....

after that, it got repiticious and boring....but it certainly explains why the R party is a bunch of wimps on this shit, they are owned by the same groups the D party is, just not quite to wildly communist....

Like Romney releasing his taxes tmrw....he is stupid, he has the AX in hand to crack that vault Nobam keeps his 'records' in, but he won't use it.....

deliberately tossing the election.....:beat:

[Z06PDQ]

McCain is a PROGRESSIVE, just like most of the R candidates.....

Beck explained it all pretty well during his first year at Fox in the 5pm slot....

after that, it got repiticious and boring....but it certainly explains why the R party is a bunch of wimps on this shit, they are owned by the same groups the D party is, just not quite to wildly communist....

Like Romney releasing his taxes tmrw....he is stupid, he has the AX in hand to crack that vault Nobam keeps his 'records' in, but he won't use it.....

deliberately tossing the election.....:beat: sooo....McCain [who] was desperate to win the presidency & who's old lady has enough money to buy Cuba much less validate the idiotic birther bullshit lie wouldn't pursue this because they are "progressives?" how about Trump? is he a progressive,too? he could buy & sell Romney. :lol: HOLY SHIT! that's rich!...that's "ten feet up a bull's ass" rich!
:rofl::rofl:

[mrvette]

sooo....McCain [who] was desperate to win the presidency & who's old lady has enough money to buy Cuba much less validate the idiotic birther bullshit lie wouldn't pursue this because they are "progressives?" how about Trump? is he a progressive,too? he could buy & sell Romney. :lol: HOLY SHIT! that's rich!...that's "ten feet up a bull's ass" rich!
:rofl::rofl:

They are ALL big money PROGRESSIVES.....

they either get on the PROGRESSIVE band wagon, or they lose their fortune....in THAT respect the OWS crowd does have a point, but it's against the HUGE money, not the way they are playing against a bunch of hired guns on wall street.....

:rofl::kick:

[Z06PDQ]

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[Joecooool]

Beck explained it all...

Beck? That guy is either bat shit crazy or a highly skilled used car salesman. Maybe both.

[mrvette]

Beck? That guy is either bat shit crazy or a highly skilled used car salesman. Maybe both.

You dunno jack shit about National and International poly ticks, DO you??

got any clue who the power players are???

the REAL power players??

much less know how to end their schemes, permanent like....

:slap::kick:

[Z06PDQ]

I have my own theories on this. I have it by a reputable source that Obama was placed in his mother's womb via in vitro fertilization by the Lizard People of the plant Your Anus. they were wholly financed by none other than Soros & the Illuminati to secretly film him eating dead white babies. [after] he rapes them, of course. this film will be soon be broadcast to the whole planet via Youtube & the caption will be "All Your Racial Bias Belong To Us." absolute & complete world domination will soon follow. :groupwave:

[Joecooool]

You dunno jack shit about National and International poly ticks, DO you??

got any clue who the power players are???

the REAL power players??

much less know how to end their schemes, permanent like....

:slap::kick:Gene,

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Glen Beck is a lunatic. He was so nuts, Fox kicked him off TV.

[78SA]

Someone didn't watch the video.

[Z06PDQ]

I don't need to watch it. I have encountered this stupid bastard before. :sleep: Pastor Gallups Speaks Out On Halloween - Ben Unmus Radio Show - YouTube

[mrvette]

Gene,

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Glen Beck is a lunatic. He was so nuts, Fox kicked him off TV.

Phil, like I finally figgered out with Beck's help, the mystery of the continuing leftist drift in this country since Wilson....

it is most obvious, but then again, I never knew even LIVING on top of that one horse town for 53 years, 40 of them cognitive.....

but what Beck said makes total and complete sense....

CASE CLOSED......the rest of you can wallow in terminal ignorance....tough shit...


:seasix::hurray:

[SQUIRMIN VERMIN 84]

What she really said.....honest...

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx256/realbunky/r-JAN-BREWER-OBAMA-huge2-Copy.jpg

[Burro (He/Haw)]

Still think Obama was born in the USA?
This argument did not get any traction the first half dozen times it came 'round.

Just sayin'

[Torqaholic]

Dumbest shit ever.

Except for the constitution eh comrad?

[Joecooool]

As to the "Obama wasn't born in the USA" topic, it's been beat to death.

Are the suspicions? Yes.
Will there always be suspicions? Yes.
Will there ever be any hard evidence to show he was/was not born in the US? I doubt it.

There are no suspicians by anyone other than the wing nuts.

[Iron Chef]

It's really a pointless argument. Clearly, no one's gonna pull him out of office so why go on about it?

I'm not an Obama fan anyway, but we've got to have more important things to take care of in this country besides going on and on with an argument that gets no traction.

And BTW...I don't really care whether the President is a natural born or naturalized citizen. This is a silly Constitutional rule that was created long ago. I want the best person in there for the job. Period.

[Torqaholic]

As to the "Obama wasn't born in the USA" topic, it's been beat to death.

...Will there ever be any hard evidence to show he was/was not born in the US? I doubt it.

His first official act as president was to seal his records from the public. So the records do exist, there already is hard evidence, just needs to be accessed. I wouldn't say that is never going to happen.

[Torqaholic]

It's really a pointless argument. Clearly, no one's gonna pull him out of office so why go on about it?

... This is a silly Constitutional rule that was created long ago. I want the best person in there for the job. Period.

Maybe because tens of millions of people in this country have taken an oath to defend that silly little document? :issues: :rofl:

[R.Zaragoza]

Dumbest shit ever.

:sleep:

[Iron Chef]

Maybe because tens of millions of people in this country have taken an oath to defend that silly little document? :issues: :rofl:

I don't think Chef was saying the Constitution is "silly".

Exactly. RIF so leave the grandstanding at the door.

And a quick check of history will reveal that many of those conflicts that the "tens of millions" fought in were based on little more than political agendas and had nothing to do with defending the Constitiution.

[Iron Chef]

But the commie scum deserved it. :D

Well there's that. :D

Although after the Iraq debacle, I'd feel better about the USA if we didn't go picking fights.

[Joecooool]

His first official act as president was to seal his records from the public. So the records do exist, there already is hard evidence, just needs to be accessed. I wouldn't say that is never going to happen. So tired of this nonsense. Cut and pasted from another thread -

This fallacy comes up so much that I wanted to address it to a more general audience. There is a false rumor going around that Executive Order 13489 "seals off all of Obama's records". Supposedly this is how Obama can seal off his school and birth records. Here's the problem. That Executive Order only affects presidential records and by the definition in the executive order, records made prior to being elected president are NOT "presidential records". People who think that either haven't read the executive order or haven't read the statute it was amending or haven't done the proper statutory analysis. Here's what I offer as proof.

The executive order in question states that the archivist must give the incumbent president notice before disclosing presidential records and must consult with the administration before releasing the presidential records of former presidents. The executive order defines "presidential records" as those defined as such in the "Presidential Records Act". From that act:

(2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term--

(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of his staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but

(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) of title 5, United States Code; (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.

Presidential records must have been:

1) Created during the course of being president 2) Created by the president or his staff or advisers and 3) Created pursuant to official duties as president

So unless school records, birth certificates or other documents that people seem so interested in were created while Obama was president and created by him or his staff or advisers and pursuant to his official duties as president, then they aren't covered by this executive order.

Further even campaign records are not covered by this executive order. The Presidential Records Act defines campaign records under "personal records". See:

(3) The term "personal records" means all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term includes--

(A) diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business;

(B) materials relating to private political associations, and having no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; and

(C) materials relating exclusively to the President’s own election to the office of the Presidency; and materials directly relating to the election of a particular individual or individuals to Federal, State, or local office, which have no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.

So no. Obama did not "seal off his records via executive order". Even if we assume the worst and that Obama wanted to hide his records in order to be "electable", that would at best fall under "personal records" and not "presidential records". Finally this executive order only applies to information under the control of the archivist. It doesn't apply to school records because they are not under the national archivist's control.

[Iron Chef]

Wow you came up with all of that on your own? Or you plagiarizing again?

Since we're not the Library of Congress, it doesn't really matter. Things are cut and pasted here all the time.

The question must be asked: Is the information given correct?

[Bill]

Highly doubtful....when the asshole is outta office is when the truth will come out, and if I had access to his records, screw that Exec order, I would publish on the net......what's he going to DO?? cry, that's what.....

:kick::seasix:

Ask Bradley Manning about that. Oh, wait, you can't. He's being imprisoned naked, in isolation right now. No visitors.

[Iron Chef]

Ask Bradley Manning about that. Oh, wait, you can't. He's being imprisoned naked, in isolation right now. No visitors.

Actually he's now in a medium-security facility at Ft. Leavenworth, KS.

You have to understand...Gene is one of our top scabbard wavers. He'll never actually do anything he says he would, but I think he has a good time playing "what if" as he runs on his mental treadmill.

[Torqaholic]

.....This executive order only applies to information under the control of the archivist. It doesn't apply to school records because they are not under the national archivist's control.

So where are the transcripts? :rofl:

We have some records. His selective service record is one document which has been available and has been analyzed. It's a proven forgery, date stamped with a piece of equipment that had not been invented. He should be imprisoned for that felony alone... And any attempts to obstuct justice by making excuses only brand you an accomplice.

[Iron Chef]

And called out all the time for a source to verify said "facts".

Indeed. Source would be a nice place to start. :D


Perhaps it would be a good idea to cite's one source when posting information.

It's just one more copy/paste in the process. :D

Pffffffttttt....I get called out so much I should patent a PA system. I gloss most of it over. :rofl:

If I was going to court to defend something, I'd do some digging. If I was trying to make a point on an internet forum where it really doesn't matter (and where I know that no matter what I post, there will be a group trying to discredit what I say because of my politics)...not so much. At least not at my hourly rate.

Me personally...if I make a point on here, 99% of the time it's from a reliable source, and folks can either take it or leave it.

YMMV :cert:

[mrvette]

So tired of this nonsense. Cut and pasted from another thread -

This fallacy comes up so much that I wanted to address it to a more general audience. There is a false rumor going around that Executive Order 13489 "seals off all of Obama's records". Supposedly this is how Obama can seal off his school and birth records. Here's the problem. That Executive Order only affects presidential records and by the definition in the executive order, records made prior to being elected president are NOT "presidential records". People who think that either haven't read the executive order or haven't read the statute it was amending or haven't done the proper statutory analysis. Here's what I offer as proof.

The executive order in question states that the archivist must give the incumbent president notice before disclosing presidential records and must consult with the administration before releasing the presidential records of former presidents. The executive order defines "presidential records" as those defined as such in the "Presidential Records Act". From that act:

(2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term--

(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of his staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but

(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) of title 5, United States Code; (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.

Presidential records must have been:

1) Created during the course of being president 2) Created by the president or his staff or advisers and 3) Created pursuant to official duties as president

So unless school records, birth certificates or other documents that people seem so interested in were created while Obama was president and created by him or his staff or advisers and pursuant to his official duties as president, then they aren't covered by this executive order.

Further even campaign records are not covered by this executive order. The Presidential Records Act defines campaign records under "personal records". See:

(3) The term "personal records" means all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term includes--

(A) diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business;

(B) materials relating to private political associations, and having no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; and

(C) materials relating exclusively to the President’s own election to the office of the Presidency; and materials directly relating to the election of a particular individual or individuals to Federal, State, or local office, which have no relation to or direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.

So no. Obama did not "seal off his records via executive order". Even if we assume the worst and that Obama wanted to hide his records in order to be "electable", that would at best fall under "personal records" and not "presidential records". Finally this executive order only applies to information under the control of the archivist. It doesn't apply to school records because they are not under the national archivist's control.

YOU can post all the legalistic horse shit you want to....I want the friggin' harvard transcripts, the COMPLETE set, including funding.....

and nothing less....until then....fuec him forever.....

CASE CLOSED.....

I already know the latest and previous BC's were phoney as hell....

but your total ignorance will not preclude my desire for TRUTH....as in corroborated documentatioin, and recollections of folks still alive....

where ARE they??

:dance::waiting:

[Joecooool]

So where are the transcripts? :rofl:

We have some records. His selective service record is one document which has been available and has been analyzed. It's a proven forgery, date stamped with a piece of equipment that had not been invented. He should be imprisoned for that felony alone... And any attempts to obstuct justice by making excuses only brand you an accomplice.

That's bullshit too.

[mrvette]

Actually he's now in a medium-security facility at Ft. Leavenworth, KS.

You have to understand...Gene is one of our top scabbard wavers. He'll never actually do anything he says he would, but I think he has a good time playing "what if" as he runs on his mental treadmill.

It would take maybe 6 of folks in strategic positions to have my opinions and proposed actions to take this crooked .gov down to the foundations....

call new elections, and go back to being a REPUBLIC ....issue new currency of course....

:issues::seasix:

[mrvette]

Actually he's now in a medium-security facility at Ft. Leavenworth, KS.

You have to understand...Gene is one of our top scabbard wavers. He'll never actually do anything he says he would, but I think he has a good time playing "what if" as he runs on his mental treadmill.

Effin'a A right.....and yes I would, in a nanosecond, given the power....

but only time will prove me correct....

[Torqaholic]

That's bullshit too.

Translation: "I couldn't google up any spin to contradict that" :lol:

[Iron Chef]

It would take maybe 6 of folks in strategic positions to have my opinions and proposed actions to take this crooked .gov down to the foundations....

call new elections, and go back to being a REPUBLIC ....issue new currency of course....

:issues::seasix:

Effin'a A right.....and yes I would, in a nanosecond, given the power....

but only time will prove me correct....

Sure Gene.

(someone cue the calliope music)

[Iron Chef]

I see what you're saying, but really is it that much extra time to copy/paste URL? It's only like an extra calorie or two of effort. :D

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It's just not worth it to me to bother. Will puts up all these friggin' charts...no one reads 'em. But I think he enjoys hunting around. :rofl:

Your HOA is not a reliable source. :leaving:

There's nothing good about my HOA, hence my house going on the market. :ack:

[mrvette]

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It's just not worth it to me to bother. Will puts up all these friggin' charts...no one reads 'em. But I think he enjoys hunting around. :rofl:



There's nothing good about my HOA, hence my house going on the market. :ack:

:waiting: I musta missed the action, wha happened??...:dance:

[Iron Chef]

:waiting: I musta missed the action, wha happened??...:dance:
While I lived away from the house during my divorce, the ex pretty much poisoned the well with all the neighbors. I was a pariah even before I moved back in.

No worries...I'm ready to go anyway. :seasix:

I'd love to have about 6 acres to play with. Enjoy it man! Hope the casa sells asap for ya. :cert:

Thanks! It's a short sell so a lot has to happen first. But I'm hopeful! :cert:

[Bucwheat]

Neil Boortz,said Obamas grandmother was in charge of death cerficates in Hawaii and she chose a SSN# from an expired individual for Obama when he was a small child to make it look like he was a natural born.

[Chris Fowler]

Gonna need more than speculation and innuendo to prove that one.
There's another thread on it...it's false.

[Joecooool]

Neil Boortz,said Obamas grandmother was in charge of death cerficates in Hawaii and she chose a SSN# from an expired individual for Obama when he was a small child to make it look like he was a natural born.

That would be bullshit as well.

[mrvette]

While I lived away from the house during my divorce, the ex pretty much poisoned the well with all the neighbors. I was a pariah even before I moved back in.

No worries...I'm ready to go anyway. :seasix:



Thanks! It's a short sell so a lot has to happen first. But I'm hopeful! :cert:

I can imagine the horse shit my ex, the kids' mom, spread about me, I know her family sure turned in a nanosecond, but I kinda expected THAT.....actually her mother and father treated me better than her siblings...

[Chris Fowler]

None of this crap matters.

Do you think if he released his college records and it was all 'A's those who dislike him would suddenly reconsider?

Do you think if it was all 'F's those who like him would suddenly think he's an idiot?

You'll never prove that he was born outside the US, even if he was.

The continued focus on that crap simply isn't worth it.

What matters is that Obama is a crap President with even worse ideas about where this country needs to go.

The problem is that there is a certain part of the population that agrees with him. And there is another part of the population that is so blinded by hatred of all things to the right that they're willing to go off the cliff with him, even if they think he's taking things too far.

Stick with the issues...the rest of this crap does nothing.

[Chris Fowler]

I'll say this, the one thing this DOES show is "we" need tighter scrutiny of a person's citizenship in the country. Especially when running for the top spot. :yesnod:
we need better scrutiny, period, of presidential candidates. But three years on, that is dead and gone.