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Yerf Dog
12-02-2011, 9:26am
Herman Cain said Thursday that he was helping Ginger White with her “month-to-month bills and expenses” and that his wife did not know about the payments or the friendship with the woman, who has alleged that the two had an extramarital affair.
In an interview with the New Hampshire Union Leader, Cain — a Republican presidential hopeful — repeated his assertion that his relationship with White was platonic, despite the Atlanta businesswoman’s claim this week that she had a 13-year affair with him.
Cain said White reached out to him this fall, sending him about 70 text messages from Oct. 22 through Nov. 18 asking for financial assistance.
“She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend,” Cain told the newspaper. “She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”
Herman Cain says wife did not know of payments to alleged mistress Ginger White - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/herman-cain-says-wife-did-not-know-of-payments-to-alleged-mistress-ginger-white/2011/12/01/gIQAoQyLIO_story.html)
His wife didn't know? :skep: :nono:
Joecooool
12-02-2011, 9:39am
I'm betting he was sporting the Me Gusta face everytime he paid her as well. :D
RedLS1GTO
12-02-2011, 9:40am
Unfortunately, at this point it doesn't really matter what he did or didn't do. The liberal media made sure of that.
Yerf Dog
12-02-2011, 9:47am
Unfortunately, at this point it doesn't really matter what he did or didn't do. The liberal media made sure of that.
I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt up to the point where Herm said something that sounds hinky.
Stangkiller
12-02-2011, 9:50am
Unfortunately, at this point it doesn't really matter what he did or didn't do. The liberal media made sure of that.
I don't think this is all the liberal medias fault. Cain has been associated with some seedy women. Period. These golddiggers, believe them or not, do all have ties to Cain, the media gave these ladies an outlet...and honestly I'm glad they got it out now, and not after he won the primary. Cain has some bigger fish to fry right now, and if he can get it all straightened out, I'd love to give him another shot at the white house, unfortunately this is not his year.
RedLS1GTO
12-02-2011, 10:31am
I don't think this is all the liberal medias fault. Cain has been associated with some seedy women. Period.
What would happen if every person you have ever been associated with was scrutinized?
I have never had an affair, I have never molested or sexually assaulted anybody, but I guarantee that if you dug enough and there was benefit in it for them, you could without a doubt find people in my past who would have no problem saying that I did.
73sbVert
12-02-2011, 10:37am
What would happen if every person you have ever been associated with was scrutinized?
I've got 2 ex-wives, I'm f'ked!! :lolsmile:
I have never had an affair, I have never molested or sexually assaulted anybody, but I guarantee that if you dug enough and there was benefit in it for them, you could without a doubt find people in my past who would have no problem saying that I did.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
Some just have black hearts, and although they may have been very nice people when you knew them, you dangle a big enough check in front of them and if they perceive hardship, they WILL turn on you. :yesnod:
Herman Cain says wife did not know of payments to alleged mistress Ginger White - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/herman-cain-says-wife-did-not-know-of-payments-to-alleged-mistress-ginger-white/2011/12/01/gIQAoQyLIO_story.html)
His wife didn't know? :skep: :nono:
This is the killer for me.
I helped a young lady awhile back w/ a car repair. I took care of the bill for her at the dealership and I did it anonymously. Obviously, my wife knew-just so if ever came up, she would know.
Joecooool
12-02-2011, 11:50am
Unfortunately, at this point it doesn't really matter what he did or didn't do. The liberal media made sure of that.
The same "liberal media" that dug up the dirt on Clinton, Wiener, Edwards, etc?
By the way, Cain is one of the top stories over at the left wing Drudge Report.
RedLS1GTO
12-02-2011, 12:07pm
The same "liberal media" that dug up the dirt on Clinton, Wiener, Edwards, etc?
By the way, Cain is one of the top stories over at the left wing Drudge Report.
It is not even remotely close to being worth the time to get into a debate with you about political slant in today's media. I can't figure out if you are simply so consumed by your own political views that you are incapable of seeing the bias (which is my guess), or if you do see it and refuse to admit it. Either way, the discussion is completely pointless.
To this point, there is zero PROOF of anything against Cain, yet the media for the most part speaks like he is 100% guilty. If you don't see the difference between that and the way it is portrayed when the subject is a liberal... you are delusional.
Yerf Dog
12-02-2011, 3:10pm
To this point, there is zero PROOF of anything against Cain, yet the media for the most part speaks like he is 100% guilty. If you don't see the difference between that and the way it is portrayed when the subject is a liberal... you are delusional.
He admitted to giving Ginger White money behind his wife's back. That's enough for me not to take him seriously.
Yerf Dog
12-02-2011, 3:58pm
Behind his wife's back or just didn't tell her because he didn't think of it as a big deal.
There's a wife that wouldn't think that's a big deal? :skep:
Yerf Dog
12-02-2011, 4:06pm
Out of every wife on the planet, yes I would be willing to bet there is at least one. :D
I got $5 that says her name isn't Mrs. Cain. :lol:
Stangkiller
12-03-2011, 2:08pm
Well it's official he's suspended his campaign.
vetteman9368
12-03-2011, 3:27pm
Well it's official he's suspended his campaign.
probably the right thing to do. Whether he is guilty or innocent, this has destroyed his campaign and electability.
I'm sure some will be happy and giddy.
Romney. :yesnod:
In other news, at least he's also revealed his poetic inspiration. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69700.html)
onedef92
12-05-2011, 2:56pm
Another Black Atlanta powerhouse, Bishop Eddie Long, fell in alledged sexual shame this past weekend, too.
Eddie Long taking time off from Ga. megachurch after wife files for divorce
December 5, 2011 10:06 AM
(CBS/AP) LITHONIA, Ga. - Megachurch leader Bishop Eddie Long announced Sunday he's taking time off to focus on his family after his wife filed for divorce.
Long's spokesman, Art Franklin, said the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church leader told his congregation during church services that he will continue to serve as senior pastor at the church in Lithonia just outside Atlanta. But Long said he needs a sabbatical.
Franklin declined to say how long the pastor's sabbatical from the church would be. He said Long and his family "are asking for privacy and sensitivity to their family."
Long's wife, Vanessa Long, filed a petition for divorce Thursday in DeKalb County Superior Court to end her 21-year marriage to the embattled minister. The church sent out a press release Friday morning saying Vanessa Long planned to withdraw her petition, but her attorney said later in the day that she had changed her mind.
In her petition, Vanessa Long indicated that the marriage is "irretrievably broken" and that there was "no hope of reconciliation of the parties." She asked the court for temporary and permanent alimony, as well as attorneys' fees and an equitable division of marital and non-marital property.
"Vanessa and I are working together in seeking God's will in our current circumstances," Eddie Long said in a written statement.
According to the divorce petition, the couple is "currently living in a bona fide state of separation."
The split comes more than a year after allegations last year that Eddie Long used his lavish lifestyle and position of spiritual authority to lure four young men into sexual relationships. Eddie Long settled the cases but has never admitted to any wrongdoing.
The allegations attracted national attention, took a toll on Long's reputation and distracted from his international ministry.
The Longs were married March 10, 1990. The couple has three children together and has another child from Long's previous marriage.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q77/1SADIRA/BishopEddieLong.jpg
Joecooool
12-05-2011, 3:29pm
Another Black Atlanta powerhouse, Bishop Eddie Long, fell in alledged sexual shame this past weekend, too.
Eddie Long taking time off from Ga. megachurch after wife files for divorce
December 5, 2011 10:06 AM
(CBS/AP) LITHONIA, Ga. - Megachurch leader Bishop Eddie Long announced Sunday he's taking time off to focus on his family after his wife filed for divorce.
Long's spokesman, Art Franklin, said the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church leader told his congregation during church services that he will continue to serve as senior pastor at the church in Lithonia just outside Atlanta. But Long said he needs a sabbatical.
Franklin declined to say how long the pastor's sabbatical from the church would be. He said Long and his family "are asking for privacy and sensitivity to their family."
Long's wife, Vanessa Long, filed a petition for divorce Thursday in DeKalb County Superior Court to end her 21-year marriage to the embattled minister. The church sent out a press release Friday morning saying Vanessa Long planned to withdraw her petition, but her attorney said later in the day that she had changed her mind.
In her petition, Vanessa Long indicated that the marriage is "irretrievably broken" and that there was "no hope of reconciliation of the parties." She asked the court for temporary and permanent alimony, as well as attorneys' fees and an equitable division of marital and non-marital property.
"Vanessa and I are working together in seeking God's will in our current circumstances," Eddie Long said in a written statement.
According to the divorce petition, the couple is "currently living in a bona fide state of separation."
The split comes more than a year after allegations last year that Eddie Long used his lavish lifestyle and position of spiritual authority to lure four young men into sexual relationships. Eddie Long settled the cases but has never admitted to any wrongdoing.
The allegations attracted national attention, took a toll on Long's reputation and distracted from his international ministry.
The Longs were married March 10, 1990. The couple has three children together and has another child from Long's previous marriage.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q77/1SADIRA/BishopEddieLong.jpg
That asshole belongs in jail.
That asshole belongs in jail.
Why? :waiting:
Joecooool
12-07-2011, 10:27am
Why? :waiting:
Because he is a pedophile.
Joecooool
12-07-2011, 10:28am
There are people who feel the same about you. :yesnod:
No there aren't.
Scissors
12-07-2011, 10:49am
Of course he kept it hidden from his wife because there was nothing inappropriate going on. Duh.
Of course he kept it hidden from his wife because there was nothing inappropriate going on. Duh.
Even if he wasn't screwing her (which is doubtful) he should have told his wife he was giving another woman money, if for no other reason than to save her an embarrassment if it ever came up.
The fact that he didn't, at the very least, shows extremely poor judgment.
Keeping something hidden != just not telling.
I might not tell my wife something I spend $$$ on which is different than purposefully hiding something from her. :yesnod:
Do we know he did the latter and not the former?
What planet do you live on?
Sea Six
12-07-2011, 12:53pm
No there aren't.
Time out.
I'm pretty sure TxAg is not calling you a pedophile, Phil. He was probably just talking about you needing to be in jail... ostensibly for being a traitor or something along those lines.
TxAg, correct me if I'm wrong or if there is something I don't know anything about.
Tell me where any of what I said is incorrect. :cert:
Come on, man...
You are married, right?
I buy crap all the time (guns, cars,etc...) and don't tell my wife or ask permission; it's no big deal.
But giving some 'hide money? She may have a bit of an issue with that.:rofl:
Are you really going to defend him when he admits to giving her financial help multiple times over a period of many years? Bad move...
As I have stated, when there's some proof then people can condemn.
Until then it's his word against some questionable women. :yesnod:
Cain admitted to giving her the money...Cain admitted to keeping this info from wife...
I agree, OJ is innocent, too.:lol:
RedLS1GTO
12-07-2011, 4:21pm
Funny what this turned into...
First it was gross harrassment, hands up skirts, groping, unwanted advances, and outright sexual assult. Then it turned into an affair with a willing participant and what it is now.
How exactly did that transition take place?
Funny what this turned into...
First it was gross harrassment, hands up skirts, groping, unwanted advances, and outright sexual assult. Then it turned into an affair with a willing participant and what it is now.
How exactly did that transition take place?
You'd have to get married to understand it.
Don't do it, it's not worth it.:lol:
Because he is a pedophile.
Shoot him in the head would be better then. :seasix:
Scissors
12-08-2011, 7:24am
As I have stated, when there's some proof then people can condemn.
Until then it's his word against some questionable women. :yesnod:
It's his word, against multiple other peoples' words, with a bit of evidence against him thrown in.
I'm skeptical of three of the women alleging harassment. However, the woman alleging an affair did not come forward on her own. She only came forward after the media approached her first, because someone (who I believe is still unnamed) also knew of it and gave up her name. Since she figured there'd be a shitstorm anyway, she went ahead and told her side.
We still haven't seen the texts, but giving her money (at least without a written agreement or letting his wife know) is suspicious and evidence, though not proof, against his version of events.
If you walk in on a woman who's been stabbed to death, and there's a stranger standing over her with the murder weapon in his hand and blood all over him, that doesn't mean he killed her. But it's evidence against him.
Scissors
12-08-2011, 7:27am
Keeping something hidden != just not telling.
I might not tell my wife something I spend $$$ on which is different than purposefully hiding something from her. :yesnod:
Do we know he did the latter and not the former?
So you're not familiar with the concept of a "lie of omission".
As someone else pointed out, even if there wasn't an affair (which would show poor judgement), not telling his wife also shows poor judgement. Do we really want another guy in the White House with poor judgement? How's that working out for you? :lol:
And he denied an affair took place.
Did you happen to come across some evidence to prove to the contrary or are you just leaping to that conclusion with no evidence to prove it? :skep:
You are quoting me and asking different questions. Cute.:rofl:
Did he or did he not give money to the woman and not tell his wife?
Your only answer is, "Yes, but he (maybe) didn't screw her.":lol:
It's his word, against multiple other peoples' words, with a bit of evidence against him thrown in.
I'm skeptical of three of the women alleging harassment. However, the woman alleging an affair did not come forward on her own. She only came forward after the media approached her first, because someone (who I believe is still unnamed) also knew of it and gave up her name. Since she figured there'd be a shitstorm anyway, she went ahead and told her side.
We still haven't seen the texts, but giving her money (at least without a written agreement or letting his wife know) is suspicious and evidence, though not proof, against his version of events.
If you walk in on a woman who's been stabbed to death, and there's a stranger standing over her with the murder weapon in his hand and blood all over him, that doesn't mean he killed her. But it's evidence against him.
:iagree: They all have unusual ties to Chicago. Hmmm....
You have a problem with that? :skep:
I did not deny he did this.
And your answer is, "Yes, and he definitely did screw her". Who has the more correct answer based on all the facts we have? :skep:
Nope, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. (up to a point)
My point is that you are defending a very weak premise and the facts that we know make it look very bad for him.
Here's the kicker: how many checks do you think a guy like Herman Cain writes?
Hint: the answer is somewhere between 0 and 1.
He gave her money, he deliberately kept this information from his wife because he knew it was inappropriate.
Looking bad != guilty.
I want more than what these women say. :yesnod:
Why do you keep changing the argument?
I am talking about what Cain said he did as it relates to this particular instance.
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