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Bill
11-19-2024, 1:54pm
https://x.com/RSBNetwork/status/1858939967969370393

mrvette
11-19-2024, 2:00pm
https://x.com/RSBNetwork/status/1858939967969370393

https://x.com/RSBNetwork/status/1858939967969370393

it will not copy/paste here, several attempts, and your post is a blank page on my computer.....go figger......

dvarapala
11-19-2024, 2:08pm
https://x.com/RSBNetwork/status/1858939967969370393

it will not copy/paste here, several attempts, and your post is a blank page on my computer.....go figger......

Has the management figured out why X/Twitter links are invisible in the posts here? :waiting:

Bill
11-19-2024, 2:11pm
Has the management figured out why X/Twitter links are invisible in the posts here? :waiting:

I had that problem a while back, for a week or two, then it cleared up on its own with no help from me, and for some reason, THIS particular one did not show up for me, either.

Ghost in the Machine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q73LMKKxbc&list=PLIHOiEnCEbc5FdMixhNLYplAs7UxcQOqt

Onebadcad
11-19-2024, 2:24pm
On-hold for four years until the POTUS-elect is out of office.

TRUMP will not need four years to put the judge and da in jail away for the rest of their pathetic and fraudulent lives!!

Bill
11-19-2024, 3:08pm
On-hold for four years until the POTUS-elect is out of office.

TRUMP will not need four years to put the judge and da in jail away for the rest of their pathetic and fraudulent lives!!

It's still bullshit. It's allowing an extortionist to hold the threat of kidnapping over the head of a US president. Hey, Trump, do what we ask here, or your post presidential term will be spent in the big house.

How can anyone run a country like that? There's probably a good reason that, in the history of our country, lawfare like what was waged against Trump has never been done before. They thought he couldn't win so we wouldn't be here now discussing the insanity of it all.

Onebadcad
11-19-2024, 3:11pm
It's still bullshit. It's allowing an extortionist to hold the threat of kidnapping over the head of a US president. Hey, Trump, do what we ask here, or your post presidential term will be spent in the big house.

How can anyone run a country like that? There's probably a good reason that, in the history of our country, lawfare like what was waged against Trump has never been done before. They thought he couldn't win so we wouldn't be here now discussing the insanity of it all.

Pretty certain the jailing of both the judge and the da in the VERY NEAR FUTURE will invalidate the case and its decision.

Bill
11-19-2024, 3:27pm
Pretty certain the jailing of both the judge and the da in the VERY NEAR FUTURE will invalidate the case and its decision.

They have pretty strong immunity for their official actions, I don't know what it will take to bust that immunity, but I certainly hope Trump's AG and FBI director try very hard to do so. They're all part of America's biggest RICO crime. Maybe enlist Rudy as a Special Counsel to go after all of them? He did win against the Mob, after all.

Over140mph
11-19-2024, 4:21pm
Crazy times we live in when political opposition abuses the legal system for their own gain.

Frankie the Fink
11-19-2024, 6:44pm
Just the fact Letitia James led a targeted attack on a single individual that she identified while campaigning is a violation of every ethics rule in the bar association. That alone should taint the case enough for it to be dismissed...

KenHorse
11-19-2024, 6:51pm
Crazy times we live in when political opposition abuses the legal system for their own gain.

And accuses the other side of wanting to do exactly what they are

( I can't describe exactly the depth of how much I despise these pukes)

Swany00
11-19-2024, 7:20pm
Just the fact Letitia James led a targeted attack on a single individual that she identified while campaigning is a violation of every ethics rule in the bar association. That alone should taint the case enough for it to be dismissed...

and absolute proof how corrupt the BAR is, they should be all over this bullshit.

Bill
11-19-2024, 8:22pm
Just the fact Letitia James led a targeted attack on a single individual that she identified while campaigning is a violation of every ethics rule in the bar association. That alone should taint the case enough for it to be dismissed...

And yet, the NYS Bar Association did nothing, because they support what she did. Ends justify the means.

LATB
11-19-2024, 9:53pm
Until the beatings begin moral will not improve.

Frankie the Fink
11-20-2024, 4:45am
Understand, delaying this case through Trump's 4 year presidency might just be a "long game" to go after him again when he's 83 and he can't pardon himself for state crimes...

Total bullsh!t... They need to dismiss the case(s) entirely..

Onebadcad
11-20-2024, 2:35pm
They have pretty strong immunity for their official actions, I don't know what it will take to bust that immunity, but I certainly hope Trump's AG and FBI director try very hard to do so. They're all part of America's biggest RICO crime. Maybe enlist Rudy as a Special Counsel to go after all of them? He did win against the Mob, after all.

Two things:

1) immunity goes away on JAN 20th, they will not have immunity when the Gaetz and DOJ go after them
2) their immunity DOES NOT protect their bias, corruption, dereliction, conspiracy and ignorance of law precedent
***why does either require immunity when in their actions they feel the followed the letter of the law

What they got away with under a corrupt potus administration goes away when the corrupt administration is out of power.

TRUMP understands FULLY that allowing these two ****wads to get off free is a shitstain on the USA Justice System.
I would bet gazillions that both of these POSs are #1 and #2 on his priority list.

It is going to be great viewing when both are brought into a Senate Committee, headed by TED CRUZ, CRUZ will leave them both with HUGE indentations in their foreheads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KenHorse
11-20-2024, 2:44pm
Two things:

1) immunity goes away on JAN 20th, they will not have immunity when the Gaetz and DOJ go after them
2) their immunity DOES NOT protect their bias, corruption, dereliction, conspiracy and ignorance of law precedent
***why does either require immunity when in their actions they feel the followed the letter of the law

What they got away with under a corrupt potus administration goes away when the corrupt administration is out of power.

TRUMP understands FULLY that allowing these two ****wads to get off free is a shitstain on the USA Justice System.
I would bet gazillions that both of these POSs are #1 and #2 on his priority list.

It is going to be great viewing when both are brought into a Senate Committee, headed by TED CRUZ, CRUZ will leave them both with HUGE indentations in their foreheads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Charge 'em under federal civil rights violations, as they sure as **** violated several of Trump's.

VatorMan
11-21-2024, 7:48am
Listened to a talk on this yesterday on Patriot streaming. Couple of things you are missing:

1. He was charged via a jury trial.
2. He was never sentenced. So by law isn’t a felon.
3. You can’t pardon someone that isn’t sentenced.

So even in the H. Biden trial, Daddy can’t commute a sentence that isn’t there.

Frankie the Fink
11-21-2024, 8:22am
The whole lawyer thing is supposed to be 'self-policing' for the most part, bar associations, and other mechanisms. The blatant lie was put to this by the Fani Willis corruption, she literally broke every ethical standard that exists on TOP of misusing Federal grant funds and with a Republican governor who just "goes along to get along" doing nothing. Then she violates her judge's orders to stop publicly commenting on a legal proceeding.

Then she has an erstwhile employee who blew the whistle on her escorted out of her office by security - and the result. She's up for re-election.

The most powerful, unassailable person in America right now is not Musk or Trump, a Blackrock CEO, or even Biden, its a belligerent minority woman in a governmental position.

Onebadcad
11-21-2024, 10:57am
Again, my take:

1) judge and da cannot be pardoned by fjb, as no charges YET
2) a crazy new precedent for fjb to say a pardon is offered if both were derelict
3) pardons do not absolve actions that were illegal, unlawful and derelict
4) IF, HUGE IF, a pardon is granted, the question is why, the why would be they were complicit in being dishonest---AGAIN, A PARDON DOES NOT COVER

These pukes are going to USP, TRUMP was abused, maligned and illegally pursued.
Next will be james, she is going to be their block mates.
Pursuing the atlanta lady is tough, not sure that stanky ass can fit through any prison's front entrance door.

Bill
11-21-2024, 11:20am
Again, my take:

1) judge and da cannot be pardoned by fjb, as no charges YET
2) a crazy new precedent for fjb to say a pardon is offered if both were derelict
3) pardons do not absolve actions that were illegal, unlawful and derelict
4) IF, HUGE IF, a pardon is granted, the question is why, the why would be they were complicit in being dishonest---AGAIN, A PARDON DOES NOT COVER

These pukes are going to USP, TRUMP was abused, maligned and illegally pursued.
Next will be james, she is going to be their block mates.
Pursuing the atlanta lady is tough, not sure that stanky ass can fit through any prison's front entrance door.


I disagree. A pardon from Brandon for his loyal foot soldiers, like Fat Albert and the judge for any federal charges for conduct prior to the pardon can and should be iconoclast. There are certain powers of the presidency that are inviolate....the power to declassify information, the power to grant security clearances, and....the power to pardon.

As discussed earlier, Ford pardoned Nixon and Nixon, like Fat Albert, and homegirls Letitia and Fani, haven't yet been charged with crimes. They should all be demanding their get out of jail free pardons from Brandon right now, assuming they aren't already inked.

It's a simple matter for all of them to simply hold up their pardon paper and say, "check mate, time to let it go." And in NY, anyway, there will never be any state charges against these people, and in Geogia? Probably no state charges against Fani and Friends, lest there be more car bombs going off.

Our best hope is that Brandon is demanding payola for pardons, since the family's income stream is about at an end and these fools refuse to pay, so they don't get them.

VatorMan
11-21-2024, 11:44am
Once again, you can’t pardon what doesn’t exist. You have to be sentenced for a pardon.

Bill
11-21-2024, 12:18pm
Once again, you can’t pardon what doesn’t exist. You have to be sentenced for a pardon.

If that's the case, then we need to dig up Tricky Dick and prosecute him, because this pardon isn't valid.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4311-granting-pardon-richard-nixon


Proclamation 4311—Granting Pardon to Richard Nixon
September 08, 1974


By the President of the United States of America

A Proclamation

Richard Nixon became the thirty-seventh President of the United States on January 20, 1969 and was reelected in 1972 for a second term by the electors of forty-nine of the fifty states. His term in office continued until his resignation on August 9, 1974.

Pursuant to resolutions of the House of Representatives, its Committee on the Judiciary conducted an inquiry and investigation on the impeachment of the President extending over more than eight months. The hearings of the Committee and its deliberations, which received wide national publicity over television, radio, and in printed media, resulted in votes adverse to Richard Nixon on recommended Articles of Impeachment.

As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not he shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor. Should an indictment ensue, the accused shall then be entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury, as guaranteed to every individual by the Constitution.

It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.

Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

Signature of Gerald R. Ford

GERALD R. FORD


Are you contending this pardon isn't legal?

Bill
11-21-2024, 12:21pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3z7Jp76ub8

Onebadcad
11-21-2024, 12:35pm
If that's the case, then we need to dig up Tricky Dick and prosecute him, because this pardon isn't valid.



I believe, and I AM NOT a lawyer, but did drive by a La Quinta on my way to work this AM, that pardons regarding POTUS are on a much higher level than all others, due to the known immunity for all POTUSes.

Again, I may be wrong, I may not.

Bill
11-21-2024, 12:43pm
Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.



I believe, and I AM NOT a lawyer, but did drive by a La Quinta on my way to work this AM, that pardons regarding POTUS are on a much higher level than all others, due to the known immunity for all POTUSes.

Again, I may be wrong, I may not.

My copy of the Constitution doesn't have anything about different levels of presidential pardons in it.

:shrug:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/

Onebadcad
11-21-2024, 12:50pm
A short read:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-nixon-pardon-in-retrospect

Frankie the Fink
11-23-2024, 7:50am
A short read:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-nixon-pardon-in-retrospect

I read that as Nixon getting a full and unconditional pardon for crimes against the United States even though he wasn't convicted.

So I don't know where the mantra that you have to be convicted/sentenced to get a pardon comes from ...