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Old 05-06-2024, 7:33pm   #21
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Generally palm trees don’t shed their fronds. They stay attached and hang dead until cut and removed.
Left alone they create what we call a palm tree beard.
Most arborists and naturalists recommend leaving the “beard”. But all the damn yankees want them removed because they don’t know any better.
The back half of our property is native, untouched land with lots of palms. While they do hang, they also do eventually fall off.
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The back half of our property is native, untouched land with lots of palms. While they do hang, they also do eventually fall off.
Palms are self cleaning. Some species drop their fronds immediately and some may let them hang seemingly forever, but eventually will fall off and there are others that drop them all over the map.

My royal palms seldom hang a frond for more than a day.


Aesthetics and liability play an important role in commercial and public settings.
Here is example of a trimmed and natural palm

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Palms are self cleaning. Some species drop their fronds immediately and some may let them hang seemingly forever, but eventually will fall off and there are others that drop them all over the map.

My royal palms seldom hang a frond for more than a day.


Aesthetics and liability play an important role in commercial and public settings.
Here is example of a trimmed and natural palm

Me thinks that Lippy made a new user name...those nips are fantastic
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Palms are self cleaning. Some species drop their fronds immediately and some may let them hang seemingly forever, but eventually will fall off and there are others that drop them all over the map.

My royal palms seldom hang a frond for more than a day.


Aesthetics and liability play an important role in commercial and public settings.
Here is example of a trimmed and natural palm

A little close to the foundation there, bud.
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A little close to the foundation there, bud.
Very close, but not my place. Just example of some palms.
Frankly it looks like some wooden mess without any real foundation.
Here in Florida it's silly not to do concrete.
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Must be a northern thing, down here we have palm fronds, very easy to manage.

As said many times, life is MUCH easier in FLORIDA!!
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Must be a northern thing, down here we have palm fronds, very easy to manage.

As said many times, life is MUCH easier in FLORIDA!!
That's why lazy folk live there.
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In Fresno, we have volunteer palms of all types popping up everywhere. I've removed maybe 6 or 10 of them from my property in the past decade. Birds drop the seeds and they grow like weeds in our climate. The key is, if near a fence or building, to remove them asap. Next time you look, you'll have a 600 pound monster crowding the house, like above.
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The hilltops here are not green yet, but will be in another week or so:


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Lots of Mexican Fan Palms everywhere and they grow fast. Wait, are you saying you live in Fresno currently?
Been here for the past 21 years. After living in the SF Bay Area for 42 years.

Fresno is like a midwestern city compared to Oakland, my poor, ****ed up home town.
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They've been moving here too. Black walnut are the last and they've got nothing yet. Lilac blossoms will be 2-3 weeks yet.

Same black walnut today, 8 days later:

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Same black walnut, 8 days later:

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May 18:

Honeysuckle and lilacs bloom at the same time each spring. Honeysuckles are really a trash bush and there are tons of them just off the edge of the yard.

The overly-sweet smell of honeysuckle blossoms, every time I go outside for a couple weeks, becomes sickening after a few days. "Sick" meaning like you just pigged out on some very rich dessert, like pecan pie, and simply are not interested in any more.

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Locust are barely budding out (left) they are slower than black walnut, on the right side. The only thing in the world that smells better than lilac blossoms is locust blossoms (well, there is one other thing that I won't mention) but they're a month away.

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The only thing in the world that smells better than lilac blossoms is locust blossoms (well, there is one other thing that I won't mention) but they're a month away.
Lilac is nothing compared to magnolia blossoms here in The South. Softball sized blossoms and the smell is just intoxicating.

I had a large lilac bush next to my driveway, between the house and barn. It made a huge snowdrift downwind every winter. After the '93 blizzard I made a snow cave for my son, then two. Okay, he helped me a little. It was tall enough inside where I could stand up.
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Lilac is nothing compared to magnolia blossoms here in The South. Softball sized blossoms and the smell is just intoxicating.

I had a large lilac bush next to my driveway, between the house and barn. It made a huge snowdrift downwind every winter. After the '93 blizzard I made a snow cave for my son, then two. Okay, he helped me a little. It was tall enough inside where I could stand up.


But the question is: Do magnolia blossoms smell better than locust blossoms?
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