So, Trump...and Pro Sports

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Players took a knee during the National Anthem but stood for God Save the Queen for the London game today. It's on Drudge.

Now THAT really pisses me off.

What in the actual **** are you protesting exactly?

Originally Posted by DAB

got me.

They are so rich, some Americans have to dream up shit and ways to bitch about.

Further, America, if history is to repeat itself, will not be defeated from outside. America will defeated from within. "United we stand, divided we fall."

[DAB]

oh, this is rich:

NFLPA asks New England Patriots to remedy turf issues at Gillette Stadium

"It's a reminder to all teams that they can't have players on [shoddy] fields," Atallah said.

but apparently, they are ok with shoddy players on that same field. just make sure the turf is sound. but they don't care about their players respecting the ground they stand on.

what a bunch of weasels.

[Fasglas]

Originally Posted by DAB

oh, this is rich:

NFLPA asks New England Patriots to remedy turf issues at Gillette Stadium



but apparently, they are ok with shoddy players on that same field. just make sure the turf is sound. but they don't care about their players respecting the ground they stand on.

what a bunch of weasels.

NFLPA field inspector found the field "borderline actionable." ? Are you shitting me?

[DAB]

Originally Posted by Fasglas

NFLPA field inspector found the field "borderline actionable." ? Are you shitting me?

i just know what i read.

they're all hot and bothered about turf, but not about the actions of their own players and how they are pissing off fans.

Mrs. DAB is watching the Broncos and doing some counted cross stitch work, i'm in my office with the TV off. but i can hear bits in the background.

[Will]

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[DAB]

again, Trump is right.

if the fans stood up and walked out, or didn't go in the first place, the NFL will get that message loud and clear.

but as long as the stands are full, and the ratings are steady, and no one boycotts the sponsors, nothing will change.

[VITE1]

I spent over 30 years in international sales. I've had to do business with people all over the world. Many of whom I are religiously or politically diametrically opposed to my political values.

If I had "Protested" their beliefs and actions I would have lost my job and never been hired by anyone again.

You do not have freedom of speech on the job. What you do on yor own time off the job site is your business.

Goodell is an asshole and I will not watch NFL football until these punks stop this bullshit.

[Fasglas]

After Trump remarks, will more NFL players 'take a knee'? | Fox News

In August, NFL legend Jim Brown said kneeling during the anthem was the wrong way to protest.

"I'm an American. I don't desecrate my flag and my national anthem," Brown said. "I'm not gonna do anything against the flag and national anthem."

Jeanine Pirro, host of “Justice with Judge Jeanine” on Fox News Channel, had some words for Goodell on her program Saturday night.

“Instead of taking sides against the national anthem, maybe you ought to think about your stockholders, your investors,” Pirro said.

“The same liberals who want to protect the constitutional right of people like Colin Kaepernick to symbolically reject America by taking a knee were the ones quick to criticize Tim Tebow for bending a knee to pray and thank God on the field," Pirro added.

[John Wiz]

Originally Posted by VITE1

I spent over 30 years in international sales. I've had to do business with people all over the world. Many of whom I are religiously or politically diametrically opposed to my political values.

If I had "Protested" their beliefs and actions I would have lost my job and never been hired by anyone again.

You do not have freedom of speech on the job. What you do on yor own time off the job site is your business.

Goodell is an asshole and I will not watch NFL football until these punks stop this bullshit.

As my employer makes perfectly clear, if I make a statement that is in conflict with their position, I can be terminated.

Goodell isn't an asshole, he is a coward. They'll fine a player for wearing an unapproved uniform item, but disrespect the flag - eh, they're just expressing their freedom of speech. B.S.

Decisions have consequences, I'm not watching another NFL game. I understand the entertainers right to free speech, but their position, to me, is disrespectful to our country - so as a consumer, I choose to not buy their product. I'm sure my wife will find plenty for me to do on Sundays, as well as Monday and Thursday evening.

[Cybercowboy]

Did I mention I'm done with the NFL? Welp, I am. Played golf today, and currently watching the Cubs and the FedEx Championship golf tournament. The NFL can suck my...

[DAB]

I’m hauling water while I listen to sermons about Revelations. Awesome stuff.

[09CTSV]

Every red blooded American needs to boycott these clowns. Maybe one or two weekend with the stands almost empty and ratings int he toilet will the jerks understand what being an American means.
I will never watch football again. If I see something sponsored by the NFL, screw them it won't be in my house period.
Maybe we should picket the field and not let the assholes in to play, it is our right you know.

[04 commemorative]

Everyone needs to not pay taxes too but that will never happen. There are to many hero worshipers that need to watch these sports.
I agree with what you are saying and wish it would happen but it never will. I have always not liked football so for me it's easy....I will watch the Yankees but first time one of them takes a knee....that's it.....I know it will not hurt them but if those ass wipes have the right to do this then we have the right to not watch.

I do watch the USA womans soccer too and if they take a knee they will be dead to me too....even if they are hot

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Waco

Perhaps the DoD shouldn't have forced the players into a recruiting role. Perhaps our CIC could spend his time doing things that matter instead of inciting division. Perhaps, just perhaps, people will realize that blind patriotism...isn't.

I agree with you, in the respect that we should stop spending armed forces recruiting dollars on the NFL. I'm sure NASCAR will be glad to accept those advertising dollars. Military members shouldn't be used as props in places where they are not even wanted, and the NFL has demonstrated they don't want them there.

Heck, if I was in charge of that, I'd offer the NFL a deal....we'll still send out military members for patriotic displays, but we will no longer pay you for the privilege. If you want them, they have to be honored guests, not a profit center.

[Wathen1955]

For those giving up professional football, you can always go to a High School football game, where I'm almost 100% certain that you won't see that crap on the field.

[VatorMan]

Will you see this at HS football ? Yes, guaranteeed. You have to realize what today’s kids watch and value.

I’ll still watch games. Just like I watch movies made by hardcore liberals. I think Trump made a mistake making this a major issue. I don’t like it, but I know the rebellious youth will make an issue of it.

[Cybercowboy]

Those that think Trump started this are of course wrong.

Those who think Trump made this worse are, of course, also wrong.

This is were we are now. The NFL are full-blown SJW's, Now Fully Liberal. This is where we are. The NBA has also arrived here. This is what the left does. They take over respected American institutions. They kill them. They wear the carcass as a skin suit. They demand you respect them.

I cancelled my Sunday Ticket before Trump's latest speech. It was already apparent where this was going. Don't be stupid folks.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TxAg

to some extent.

Is it an issue that he could address and win with some Reaganesque verbal ownage and persuasion? Yes.

Did he even come close with the crap he spews (especially on Twitter)? Nope.

Will the Trump fanboys see this? 99.9% chance not.

I'll now wait to be called a "NeverTrumper" and to STFU.

Trump doesn't do subtle, and what Trump said, and doubled down on, is the same kind of thing real people say everyday. This is the strategy that won him the office, and, as we say, "dance with the one that brung ya."









Oh, and STFU, neverTrumper!

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Waco

Really? REALLY?

Yes really Waco. My goodness, you didn't see this coming from a million miles away? It's Trump's fault? For crying out loud, just damn. This has been brewing since Obama had a son. Since the NFL has been terrified of standing up to a single person kneeling. Millions of Americans noticed this. Trump simply voiced a bit of what we're all thinking, that's all.

Waco, show up to work Monday morning wearing a political shirt. Refuse to take it off. Do it again after you get wrote up or whatever they do where you work. See what happens. Waco, confront one of your customers or clients that you know doesn't tow the line politically. Make him very uncomfortable. Tell him you'll give him no service at all. See what happens.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Waco

No. The president getting involved has absolutely made it worse especially due to his idiotic statements on the matter.



This isn't even remotely the same situation. The league has already come out in support of these protests. Further, the fact that they have a platform at all is due to the DoD paying to have them stand out during the anthem to boost recruiting.

There's literally no parallel. Keep trying though.

Waco, I know the league has came out in support of the protests. Goodall is ruining the NFL. Normal adults who have been NFL fans realize this. It's not rocket man science. Trump's words on it resonate with normal NFL fans like crazy. Indoctrinated millennials and SJWs, not so much. This is why he'll win in 2020 too BTW.

There's literally no parallel to the utter stupidity of the current direction the NFL has taken, I will agree with that. The DoD has nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing to do with this. I'd use other terms for the brainwashing you may be undergoing, but dammit man wake up and realize that it's not normal. This is not normal.

By all means though, the Democrats should double down on this. Please, I beg them. Double. Down. Also shitbird Republicans like McCain, he can too.