New track car progress... I'm ridiculous

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Never gonna let me forget that whole Taurus thing are you?

Your screen name helps him remember.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Never gonna let me forget that whole Taurus thing are you?

Yea... probably not.

[PLRX]

Bryan, the Z look ready to rock n roll. Lets us know the outcome of all your investment.

Please don't start anything over there, the garage queeners will never understand.

[RedLS1GTO]

Originally Posted by PLRX

Bryan, the Z look ready to rock n roll. Lets us know the outcome of all your investment.

Please don't start anything over there, the garage queeners will never understand.

I certainly will and (unlike some people) I will actually have data to back up what I say.

I don't post in the C5 section over there and with the abundance of douchebag there would be no point in posting in the C4 section... other than perhaps to watch people melt down.

[C4fan]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I certainly will and (unlike some people) I will actually have data to back up what I say.

I don't post in the C5 section over there and with the abundance of douchebag there would be no point in posting in the C4 section... other than perhaps to watch Tom400CFI melt down.

There is a potential for a couple of real good threads over there. Let's not give up on CF just yet.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by DukeAllen

Your screen name helps him remember.

Hence the screen name, an inside joke with certain members here about a legendary thread with Red about why I would never buy a C5, right before I did

[WW7]

Originally Posted by C4fan

There is a potential for a couple of real good threads over there. Let's not give up on CF just yet.

Jon should at the very least share his expertise on C5 "floor mats" over on the CF. After all , he is the undisputed expert on the subject.......WW

[C4fan]

Originally Posted by WW7

Jon should at the very least share his expertise on C5 "floor mats" over on the CF. After all , he is the undisputed expert on the subject.......WW

Yep, and rightfully so, he has earned the title. It must have been a difficult accomplishment after several years of training and research from CF. But most of the credit should go to the help from us at VBC4.

[Sweet 90]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I don't post in the C5 section over there and with the abundance of douchebag there would be no point in posting in the C4 section... other than perhaps to watch people melt down.

You say that like it's a bad thing

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by Sweet 90

You say that like it's a bad thing

It's fun when it's not you.

If I had a dime for every meltdown I ever had I'd be on the Ferarri forums laughing at you poor people.

But these little pills make it all better

[WW7]

Originally Posted by DukeAllen

It's fun when it's not you.

If I had a dime for every meltdown I ever had I'd be on the Ferarri forums laughing at you poor people.

But these little pills make it all better

In the 6 years I've been on the CF I can't say I've ever had a melt down.. I got pissed at that Idiot "Tom400CFI" and blocked him , but I didn't melt down..I usually just "move on" because I refuse to argue ......WW

[PLRX]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

I don't post in the C5 section over there and with the abundance of douchebag there would be no point in posting in the C4 section... other than perhaps to watch people melt down.

Totally agree.

Yes the C5 section makes me wonder if they are on acid. They got some weird behavior over there.

[WW7]

Originally Posted by PLRX

Totally agree.

Yes the C5 section makes me wonder if they are on acid. They got some weird behavior over there.

Pete, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but we got some weird behavior over here too............We have a cat , a dog, a rat ,an owl, a Demi God, and a few others I can't remember at the moment..So maybe we shouldn't be throwing any stones..........WW

[nutz4c4]

Originally Posted by WW7

Pete, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but we got some weird behavior over here too............We have a cat , a dog, a rat ,an owl, a Demi God, and a few other union members I can't remember at the moment..So maybe we shouldn't be throwing any stones..........WW

Fixt...

[Mirroredshades]

Excellent build thread.

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by WW7

In the 6 years I've been on the CF I can't say I've ever had a melt down.. I got pissed at that Idiot "Tom400CFI" and blocked him , but I didn't melt down..I usually just "move on" because I refuse to argue ......WW

I meant in real life

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by WW7

Jon should at the very least share his expertise on C5 "floor mats" over on the CF. After all , he is the undisputed expert on the subject.......WW

I'm not getting another paper cut for those guys............

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by Mirroredshades

Excellent build thread.

My sarcasm meter just got pegged

[RedLS1GTO]

Well gents... the data doesn't lie. The C5 is a fast mofo. I have been in C5Zs on a track, but it wasn't mine which means it wasn't getting pushed hard.

In a full weekend at VIR, I really didn't get much chance to really turn fast times. For the first day I was really just trying to figure out the car and on day 2 a combination of slaw cars and mother nature did their best to get in my way. It was actually cold enough that I couldn't get enough heat in the brakes. Eventually I taped up about 2/3 of the duct openings and it worked like a champ.

Through the climbing esses (0:59 in the video), the C5 is nothing short of spectacular. It is absolutely planted.

I haven't looked through all of the data yet, but this was the best so far. a 2:10.5 with misty rain isn't too shabby. I didn't have data so my times are a bit rough, but the fastest I was able to dig up in the C4 was in the 2:12 range.

VIR1 - YouTube

The C5Zs going at it (racer313g in the yellow one).







...and my new personal favorite picture. Oak tree.




Now onto the important part. Despite having about 90 less horsepower, about 100 ft/lbs of torque less, and being about 150lbs heavier than the C4...


believe it or not... the C5 is faster.

Here is a comparison video of the C4. (~2:13)

C4 VIR Lap - YouTube

It has MASSIVE power down low and gets off of the corners better but other than that, the C5 shows what a decade and a half of suspension technology was able to accomplish. I was honestly worried that the C5 would be a let down after the C4. There is absolutely no denying that the C4 was a blast to drive. I hadn't run with this group in about 2 years, and I still had multiple people come up and ask where the C4 was. There were also 2 different people pissed off that I didn't call them when I was getting rid of it. The C5 simply doesn't have the same kind of impact that the C4 does. NOBODY forgets the crazy C4 flying around.

[C4fan]

Great comparison Bryan. It's amazing 100 less hp can still out do the C4 suspension.