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Old 01-18-2012, 3:22pm   #1
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Obama administration rejects current Keystone oil pipeline*route; likely won?t make final call until after election* - NY Daily News

The Obama administration will announce Wednesday that it will scuttle current plans for the Keystone XL oil pipeline — likely putting off a final decision on the controversial project until after the November election.

The long-awaited verdict — which drew howls of protest from Republicans who believe Obama is tossing aside jobs the project promises to create — will be officially announced at a 3 p.m. White House press conference.

After months of debate, the administration will reject the path currently plotted out for the pipeline, which is proposed to stretch from Canada’s oil reserves to Texas’ refineries.

However, the administration will allow TransCanada, the pipeline’s developer, to submit plans for a new route, according to reports.

The new path will skirt around the environmentally fragile Nebraska sand hills, a change that would appease some of the activists — and Cornhusker State politicians — who balked at the original plan.

The delay is seen as a politically strategic move by the President, allowing him to hold off on having to make a final call on the 1,700-mile pipeline for many months.

Obama, who has not signaled his position on the pipeline, has been caught in the middle between two groups: environmentalists who oppose the project, and the pro-business groups and Republican-controlled House of Representatives advocating for it.

Late last year, the federal government nearly shut down after GOP members of Congress insisted that legislation requiring Obama to make a decision on the pipeline be inserted into a payroll tax renewal bill.

The Democrats relented, and a deadline for Obama’s decision was set for February 21. His announcement to reject the pipeline — even temporarily — enraged the GOP House leadership.

“President Obama is about to destroy tens of thousands of American jobs and sell American energy security to the Chinese,” Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), told The Hill.

“The President won’t stand up to his political base even to create American jobs,” said Buck. “This is not the end of this fight.”

The Keystone project — which would cost $7 billion and potentially create thousands of jobs — has become a hot-button issue on the campaign trail, as the Republican White House hopefuls have pushed for its construction.

But the White House has steadfastly refused to be pressured into making a decision. Administration officials have consistently blasted the GOP’s attempts to shoehorn the pipeline legislation into other bills.

“There was an attempt to short-circuit the review process in a way that does not allow the kind of careful consideration of all the competing criteria here that needs to be done,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.

White House officials have suggested that a full review of the new route could take until 2013, though the pipeline’s proponents have claimed that it could be done much sooner.

Deputy Secretary of State William Burns is expected to make the official announcement.



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Anyone else not surprised by the douchebag destroying America piece by piece?
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and there's the cult followers... that have damage-control-rhetoric ready to yap (not realizing we aren't as easily fooled).
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Fantastic! About time this guy had some balls when it comes to environmental issues!!!

Dirty tar sands oil

Pollution from tar sands oil greatly eclipses that of conventional oil. During tar sands oil production alone, levels of carbon dioxide emissions are three times higher than those of conventional oil, due to more energy-intensive extraction and refining processes. The Keystone XL pipeline would carry 900,000 barrels of dirty tar sands oil into the United States daily, doubling our country's reliance on it and resulting in climate-damaging emissions equal to adding more than six million new cars to U.S. roads.

Water waste

During the tar sands oil extraction process, vast amounts of water are needed to separate the extracted product, bitumen, from sand, silt, and clay. It takes three barrels of water to extract each single barrel of oil. At this rate, tar sands operations use roughly 400 million gallons of water a day. Ninety percent of this polluted water is dumped into large human-made pools, known as tailing ponds, after it’s used. These ponds are home to toxic sludge, full of harmful substances like cyanide and ammonia, which has worked its way into neighboring clean water supplies.

Indigenous populations

Northern Alberta, the region where tar sands oil is extracted, is home to many indigenous populations. Important parts of their cultural traditions and livelihood are coming under attack because of tar sands operations. Communities living downstream from tailing ponds have seen spikes in rates of rare cancers, renal failure, lupus, and hyperthyroidism. In the lakeside village of Fort Chipewyan, for example, 100 of the town’s 1,200 residents have died from cancer.

These problems will only get worse, unless tar sands production is halted. Unfortunately, an area the size of Florida is already set for extraction. Investing in a new pipeline would increase the rate of production, while decreasing the quality of life for indigenous populations.

Pipeline spills

TransCanada already attempted to cut corners by seeking a safety waiver to build the pipeline with thinner-than-normal steel and to pump oil at higher-than-normal pressures. Thanks to the pressure exerted by Friends of the Earth and allies, the company withdrew its safety waiver application in August 2010.

The threat of spills remains. In summer 2010, a million gallons of tar sands oil poured into the Kalamazoo River in Michigan from a pipeline run by another Canadian company, Enbridge. The spill exposed residents to toxic chemicals, coated wildlife and has caused long-term damage to the local economy and ecosystem.

Heightening concerns, TransCanada's Keystone I pipeline has spilled a dozen times in less than a year of operation, prompting a corrective action order from the Department of Transportation. Experts warn that the more acidic and corrosive consistency of the type of tar sands oil being piped into the U.S. makes spills more likely, and have joined the EPA in calling on the State Department to conduct a thorough study of these risks.

The Keystone XL pipeline would traverse six U.S. states and cross major rivers, including the Missouri River, Yellowstone, and Red Rivers, as well as key sources of drinking and agricultural water, such as the Ogallala Aquifer, which supplies two million Americans.

Refining tar sands oil

After traveling through the Keystone XL pipeline, tar sands oil would be brought to facilities in Texas to be further refined. Refining tar sands oil is dirtier than refining conventional oil, and results in higher emissions of toxic sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxide. These emissions cause smog and acid rain and contribute to respiratory diseases like asthma. Communities near the refineries where the Keystone XL pipeline would terminate, many of them low-income and communities of color, already live with dangerously high levels of air pollution. The Keystone XL pipeline would further exacerbate the heavy burden of pollution and environmental injustices these communities confront.
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Fantastic! About time this guy had some balls when it comes to environmental issues!!!

Dirty tar sands oil

Pollution from tar sands oil greatly eclipses that of conventional oil. During tar sands oil production alone, levels of carbon dioxide emissions are three times higher than those of conventional oil, due to more energy-intensive extraction and refining processes. The Keystone XL pipeline would carry 900,000 barrels of dirty tar sands oil into the United States daily, doubling our country's reliance on it and resulting in climate-damaging emissions equal to adding more than six million new cars to U.S. roads.

Water waste

During the tar sands oil extraction process, vast amounts of water are needed to separate the extracted product, bitumen, from sand, silt, and clay. It takes three barrels of water to extract each single barrel of oil. At this rate, tar sands operations use roughly 400 million gallons of water a day. Ninety percent of this polluted water is dumped into large human-made pools, known as tailing ponds, after it’s used. These ponds are home to toxic sludge, full of harmful substances like cyanide and ammonia, which has worked its way into neighboring clean water supplies.

Indigenous populations

Northern Alberta, the region where tar sands oil is extracted, is home to many indigenous populations. Important parts of their cultural traditions and livelihood are coming under attack because of tar sands operations. Communities living downstream from tailing ponds have seen spikes in rates of rare cancers, renal failure, lupus, and hyperthyroidism. In the lakeside village of Fort Chipewyan, for example, 100 of the town’s 1,200 residents have died from cancer.

These problems will only get worse, unless tar sands production is halted. Unfortunately, an area the size of Florida is already set for extraction. Investing in a new pipeline would increase the rate of production, while decreasing the quality of life for indigenous populations.

Pipeline spills

TransCanada already attempted to cut corners by seeking a safety waiver to build the pipeline with thinner-than-normal steel and to pump oil at higher-than-normal pressures. Thanks to the pressure exerted by Friends of the Earth and allies, the company withdrew its safety waiver application in August 2010.

The threat of spills remains. In summer 2010, a million gallons of tar sands oil poured into the Kalamazoo River in Michigan from a pipeline run by another Canadian company, Enbridge. The spill exposed residents to toxic chemicals, coated wildlife and has caused long-term damage to the local economy and ecosystem.

Heightening concerns, TransCanada's Keystone I pipeline has spilled a dozen times in less than a year of operation, prompting a corrective action order from the Department of Transportation. Experts warn that the more acidic and corrosive consistency of the type of tar sands oil being piped into the U.S. makes spills more likely, and have joined the EPA in calling on the State Department to conduct a thorough study of these risks.

The Keystone XL pipeline would traverse six U.S. states and cross major rivers, including the Missouri River, Yellowstone, and Red Rivers, as well as key sources of drinking and agricultural water, such as the Ogallala Aquifer, which supplies two million Americans.

Refining tar sands oil

After traveling through the Keystone XL pipeline, tar sands oil would be brought to facilities in Texas to be further refined. Refining tar sands oil is dirtier than refining conventional oil, and results in higher emissions of toxic sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxide. These emissions cause smog and acid rain and contribute to respiratory diseases like asthma. Communities near the refineries where the Keystone XL pipeline would terminate, many of them low-income and communities of color, already live with dangerously high levels of air pollution. The Keystone XL pipeline would further exacerbate the heavy burden of pollution and environmental injustices these communities confront.
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and there's the cult followers... that have damage-control-rhetoric ready to yap (not realizing we aren't as easily fooled).


TOLD-YA !

not one "link" provided... so everyone else can determine ourselves if any of this "info" and sources have validity or not.

JC; I'm surprised these old-skool Jedi Mind Tricks - still have you culted.
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Fantastic! About time this guy had some balls when it comes to environmental issues!!!

Dirty tar sands oil

Pollution from tar sands oil greatly eclipses that of conventional oil. During tar sands oil production alone, levels of carbon dioxide emissions are three times higher than those of conventional oil, due to more energy-intensive extraction and refining processes. The Keystone XL pipeline would carry 900,000 barrels of dirty tar sands oil into the United States daily, doubling our country's reliance on it and resulting in climate-damaging emissions equal to adding more than six million new cars to U.S. roads.

Water waste

During the tar sands oil extraction process, vast amounts of water are needed to separate the extracted product, bitumen, from sand, silt, and clay. It takes three barrels of water to extract each single barrel of oil. At this rate, tar sands operations use roughly 400 million gallons of water a day. Ninety percent of this polluted water is dumped into large human-made pools, known as tailing ponds, after it’s used. These ponds are home to toxic sludge, full of harmful substances like cyanide and ammonia, which has worked its way into neighboring clean water supplies.

Indigenous populations

Northern Alberta, the region where tar sands oil is extracted, is home to many indigenous populations. Important parts of their cultural traditions and livelihood are coming under attack because of tar sands operations. Communities living downstream from tailing ponds have seen spikes in rates of rare cancers, renal failure, lupus, and hyperthyroidism. In the lakeside village of Fort Chipewyan, for example, 100 of the town’s 1,200 residents have died from cancer.

These problems will only get worse, unless tar sands production is halted. Unfortunately, an area the size of Florida is already set for extraction. Investing in a new pipeline would increase the rate of production, while decreasing the quality of life for indigenous populations.

Pipeline spills

TransCanada already attempted to cut corners by seeking a safety waiver to build the pipeline with thinner-than-normal steel and to pump oil at higher-than-normal pressures. Thanks to the pressure exerted by Friends of the Earth and allies, the company withdrew its safety waiver application in August 2010.

The threat of spills remains. In summer 2010, a million gallons of tar sands oil poured into the Kalamazoo River in Michigan from a pipeline run by another Canadian company, Enbridge. The spill exposed residents to toxic chemicals, coated wildlife and has caused long-term damage to the local economy and ecosystem.

Heightening concerns, TransCanada's Keystone I pipeline has spilled a dozen times in less than a year of operation, prompting a corrective action order from the Department of Transportation. Experts warn that the more acidic and corrosive consistency of the type of tar sands oil being piped into the U.S. makes spills more likely, and have joined the EPA in calling on the State Department to conduct a thorough study of these risks.

The Keystone XL pipeline would traverse six U.S. states and cross major rivers, including the Missouri River, Yellowstone, and Red Rivers, as well as key sources of drinking and agricultural water, such as the Ogallala Aquifer, which supplies two million Americans.

Refining tar sands oil

After traveling through the Keystone XL pipeline, tar sands oil would be brought to facilities in Texas to be further refined. Refining tar sands oil is dirtier than refining conventional oil, and results in higher emissions of toxic sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxide. These emissions cause smog and acid rain and contribute to respiratory diseases like asthma. Communities near the refineries where the Keystone XL pipeline would terminate, many of them low-income and communities of color, already live with dangerously high levels of air pollution. The Keystone XL pipeline would further exacerbate the heavy burden of pollution and environmental injustices these communities confront.
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TOLD-YA !

not one "link" provided... so everyone else can determine ourselves if any of this "info" and sources have validity or not.

JC; I'm surprised these old-skool Jedi Mind Tricks - still have you culted.
People who think like him would have voted for Obama no matter what he did concerning Keystone. Obama knows this, but he couldn't resist doing a little more damage our economy. This oil is now going to be transported by (Warren Buffett-owned) train tankers and transported to China by supertanker (SCARY CHINESE SUPERTANKERS!) and refined using only the finest Chinese environmental standards. Oh, and plus, it will still be sold and burned. BURNED! INTO THE AIR!!!!!!!
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What's this Nebraska you speak of??
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People who think like him would have voted for Obama no matter what he did concerning Keystone. Obama knows this, but he couldn't resist doing a little more damage our economy. This oil is now going to be transported by (Warren Buffett-owned) train tankers and transported to China by supertanker (SCARY CHINESE SUPERTANKERS!) and refined using only the finest Chinese environmental standards. Oh, and plus, it will still be sold and burned. BURNED! INTO THE AIR!!!!!!!

This is what the eco folks don't think about. Yea, the oil won't be used at all in the US but the Chinese will use it. And they DGAF about air quality.....

Recently, the US Embassy in Beijing's air quality equipment registered air that went past markings for how bad it was.

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I really don't want to sell you my oil...

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Yup. The Chinese got it goin on when it comes to environmental concerns. My wife said she had no problem seeing the air she was breathing in Bejing.
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This is what the eco folks don't think about. Yea, the oil won't be used at all in the US but the Chinese will use it. And they DGAF about air quality.....

Recently, the US Embassy in Beijing's air quality equipment registered air that went past markings for how bad it was.

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This is no freaking pollution its humidity in the air. Look at the color of it. Its blue, not brown like real pollution would be. Now you will all say, "oh look at the plane picture though." Hell no, that's a freaking filter because all the other pictures were taken during the day as well and its not fking orange. Second of all, you can see that the plane has an orange glow as well, indicating its a filter of some sort. Also, the only way you can get the color of the one that has the plane, is if there is a sandstorm, and i am pretty sure that there haven't been any recent sandstorms in Beijing.
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Fantastic! About time this guy had some balls when it comes to environmental issues!!!

Dirty tar sands oil

Pollution from tar sands oil greatly eclipses that of conventional oil. During tar sands oil production alone, levels of carbon dioxide emissions are three times higher than those of conventional oil, due to more energy-intensive extraction and refining processes. The Keystone XL pipeline would carry 900,000 barrels of dirty tar sands oil into the United States daily, doubling our country's reliance on it and resulting in climate-damaging emissions equal to adding more than six million new cars to U.S. roads.

Water waste

During the tar sands oil extraction process, vast amounts of water are needed to separate the extracted product, bitumen, from sand, silt, and clay. It takes three barrels of water to extract each single barrel of oil. At this rate, tar sands operations use roughly 400 million gallons of water a day. Ninety percent of this polluted water is dumped into large human-made pools, known as tailing ponds, after it’s used. These ponds are home to toxic sludge, full of harmful substances like cyanide and ammonia, which has worked its way into neighboring clean water supplies.

Indigenous populations

Northern Alberta, the region where tar sands oil is extracted, is home to many indigenous populations. Important parts of their cultural traditions and livelihood are coming under attack because of tar sands operations. Communities living downstream from tailing ponds have seen spikes in rates of rare cancers, renal failure, lupus, and hyperthyroidism. In the lakeside village of Fort Chipewyan, for example, 100 of the town’s 1,200 residents have died from cancer.

These problems will only get worse, unless tar sands production is halted. Unfortunately, an area the size of Florida is already set for extraction. Investing in a new pipeline would increase the rate of production, while decreasing the quality of life for indigenous populations.

Pipeline spills

TransCanada already attempted to cut corners by seeking a safety waiver to build the pipeline with thinner-than-normal steel and to pump oil at higher-than-normal pressures. Thanks to the pressure exerted by Friends of the Earth and allies, the company withdrew its safety waiver application in August 2010.

The threat of spills remains. In summer 2010, a million gallons of tar sands oil poured into the Kalamazoo River in Michigan from a pipeline run by another Canadian company, Enbridge. The spill exposed residents to toxic chemicals, coated wildlife and has caused long-term damage to the local economy and ecosystem.

Heightening concerns, TransCanada's Keystone I pipeline has spilled a dozen times in less than a year of operation, prompting a corrective action order from the Department of Transportation. Experts warn that the more acidic and corrosive consistency of the type of tar sands oil being piped into the U.S. makes spills more likely, and have joined the EPA in calling on the State Department to conduct a thorough study of these risks.

The Keystone XL pipeline would traverse six U.S. states and cross major rivers, including the Missouri River, Yellowstone, and Red Rivers, as well as key sources of drinking and agricultural water, such as the Ogallala Aquifer, which supplies two million Americans.

Refining tar sands oil

After traveling through the Keystone XL pipeline, tar sands oil would be brought to facilities in Texas to be further refined. Refining tar sands oil is dirtier than refining conventional oil, and results in higher emissions of toxic sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxide. These emissions cause smog and acid rain and contribute to respiratory diseases like asthma. Communities near the refineries where the Keystone XL pipeline would terminate, many of them low-income and communities of color, already live with dangerously high levels of air pollution. The Keystone XL pipeline would further exacerbate the heavy burden of pollution and environmental injustices these communities confront.
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You guys are hilarious. If the article lands on YOUR side of the fence, it's gospel truth. If anyone refutes YOUR article, they are communist's.



Thats BOTH camps BTW.

Oh yeah:

CASE CLOSED!
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Thats BOTH camps BTW.

Oh yeah:

CASE CLOSED!
You lost me at "I voted for Obama". Imo, McCain wasn't a sparkling fantastic choice either. Yet, McCain is less evil than ole boy Grand Poobah Hope and Change.
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You lost me at "I voted for Obama". Imo, McCain wasn't a sparkling fantastic choice either. Yet, McCain is less evil than ole boy Grand Poobah Hope and Change.
I see. So you base your decisions on people over one vote. (An admittedly bad one) Funny, I had you pegged differently.

Oh well. Back to your bashing boroxjohnny.
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I see. So you base your decisions on people over one vote. (An admittedly bad one) Funny, I had you pegged differently.

Oh well. Back to your bashing boroxjohnny.
No, this pipeline dealy-o is but one small example of the person and elected official that makes Obama the great community organizer. Back to you, Tommy Boy.
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