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Old 03-31-2017, 11:59am   #1
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ATLANTA (AP) — Atlanta's notoriously tangled commutes were thrown into disarray Friday after a bridge on Interstate 85 collapsed amid a massive fire, shutting down the heavily traveled highway through the heart of the city.

Traffic was bumper to bumper on nearby streets as people scrambled to find alternate routes after the fire broke out during rush hour Thursday afternoon. However, officials said no one was hurt despite towering flames and plumes of smoke captured in dramatic video footage.

"This is about as serious a transportation crisis as we can imagine," Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed said.

Because of the damage to the key interstate, many commuters in some of Atlanta's densely populated northern suburbs will likely be forced to find alternate routes or ride public transit for weeks or even months.

Georgia's top transportation official said there's no way to tell when the highway, which carries 250,000 cars a day, can be safely reopened to traffic in either direction following the collapse in the northbound lanes leading out of the city.

"We will have to continue to evaluate the situation and adjust as we do," Department of Transportation Commissioner Russell McMurry said. "This incident — make no bones about it — will have a tremendous impact on travel."

McMurry said Friday in a news release that bridge inspectors have determined the southbound lanes of I-85, adjacent to the section that collapsed, also were damaged by the fire and will need to remain closed for the near future.

He said the fire started in an area used to store construction materials, equipment and supplies. Authorities were still working to determine how the fire started.

Bobby Barnhart, who works for a financial technology company near the interstate, said he and his colleagues watched the bridge collapse from about 60 yards away as the fire raged Thursday afternoon. He said he heard several explosions beneath the bridge, followed by a slow rumbling.

"It was a big sound. You could feel the vibrations," Barnhart said.

With the interstate closed, Barnhart said his Friday morning commute was much more jammed than usual, taking him about 30 minutes rather than the normal 10 to 15.

The interstate is a major artery for the U.S. South and a thoroughfare for traffic heading north and south through Atlanta. The bridge collapse effectively "puts a cork in the bottle," Georgia State Patrol Commissioner Mark McDonough said.

For some motorists, Thursday's snarl brought back nightmares from a winter storm in January 2014 that left drivers stranded on interstates and highways overnight and children trapped on school buses. During that storm, many abandoned their cars and slept in convenience stores or restaurants that opened their doors to commuters seeking shelter.

Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal declared a state of emergency after the interstate collapse, saying the state is mobilizing resources to minimize traffic disruption while emergency work continues.

The Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority, or MARTA, increased rail service Friday and will have additional staff on hand to help passengers figure out how to get where they're going.

Thursday's fire burned for more than an hour under I-85 northbound, spewing clouds of black smoke skyward. The interstate was shut down and the Department of Transportation warned all motorists to stay off I-85

Rose Diggs told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that she lives less than a mile from the fire site but couldn't get home because of blocked surface streets. She said she was told to walk despite being disabled, "but it's raining and dark."

Capt. Mark Perry of the Georgia State Patrol told the newspaper terrorism is not suspected.

Gov. Deal told reporters PVC plastic materials in a vehicle may have caught fire.

Atlanta Fire Department spokesman Sgt. Cortez Stafford said no cars were on the overpass when it fell.

"Our guys got here quickly and shut down the interstate and said, 'No one else is driving over this bridge,'" he said.
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Old 03-31-2017, 1:37pm   #3
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from what i understand, the materials were owned by gov't.

you watch, they will move heaven and earth to fix this, and once it's fixed, they'll have some dumb ribbon cutting ceremony with the local politicians.

slapping themselves on the back for fixing a problem they themselves created.

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Old 03-31-2017, 2:36pm   #4
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Man, am I ever glad that I avoid that place like the plague. Hell, trying to get to Summit Racing in McDonough is a PITA. Feel sorry for anyone caught up in that mess..
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from what i understand, the materials were owned by gov't.

you watch, they will move heaven and earth to fix this, and once it's fixed, they'll have some dumb ribbon cutting ceremony with the local politicians.

slapping themselves on the back for fixing a problem they themselves created.

Related story about Hurricane Katrina. The bridges from New Orleans to Slidell known as the twin spans, or, the part of I-10 going over Lake Ponchartrain, were destroyed by the storm surge. This was a major problem.

Now, know up front that road work in Louisiana is notoriously slow. You'll see construction zones up for months at a time, and most of that time there are barrels, but no workers. Nobody gets in too big a hurry. Well, after Katrina, getting those bridges (one for each direction of travel) back open was critical. The contractor that did the work got one section repaired in record time....ridiculously fast. I'm guessing they got a big assed production bonus for getting it back up and running that fast. The other section took muuuuccch longer. Probably no incentive for that, once they had at least one bridge back up.
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from what i understand, the materials were owned by gov't.

you watch, they will move heaven and earth to fix this, and once it's fixed, they'll have some dumb ribbon cutting ceremony with the local politicians.

slapping themselves on the back for fixing a problem they themselves created.

They will celebrate with champagne.

Atlanta Roadwork Section

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Man, am I ever glad that I avoid that place like the plague. Hell, trying to get to Summit Racing in McDonough is a PITA. Feel sorry for anyone caught up in that mess..
I have a friend who is moving to McDonough he just bought a house there.
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I'm glad I don't build bridges in GA anymore.
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I bet they work 24/7 and have it open in about 2 months, depending on just how bad SB is. My guess is the span that collapsed is not all that will be replaced. the span on each end will probably have to be replaced due to the columns and caps getting damaged. probably at least one span SB will get worked on/replaced.
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from what i understand, the materials were owned by gov't.

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slapping themselves on the back for fixing a problem they themselves created.

Sigh.... you do something that makes total sense in the winter and get totallly screwed in the summer. Just renember, every new condition you put on the .Gov over private industry will cost you an extra 40%.
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Lots of info and pics: Atlanta News, Weather, Traffic and Sports | WSB-TV

3 charged in connection to fire
Northbound and southbound need replacing
GDOT says several months
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Phila had a similar event with a tire fire under I95 in 1996
Tire Fire Undermines I-95 in Philadelphia - The New York Times

The Phila bridge could be repaired with new steel beams.
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Thursday night it took me over two hours to get home due to the shooting on the Stone Mountain Freeway. Then I hear about the I85 bridge collapse, which is three miles from my office, and I wonder how I'm going to get to work Friday morning...it turns out...doesn't matter, we were then hit by a tornado at about 8pm that night and I've got significant damage...hurrah...!
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Thursday night it took me over two hours to get home due to the shooting on the Stone Mountain Freeway. Then I hear about the I85 bridge collapse, which is three miles from my office, and I wonder how I'm going to get to work Friday morning...it turns out...doesn't matter, we were then hit by a tornado at about 8pm that night and I've got significant damage...hurrah...!
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My brother got the news today that he is starting work on it Monday.
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Thursday night it took me over two hours to get home due to the shooting on the Stone Mountain Freeway. Then I hear about the I85 bridge collapse, which is three miles from my office, and I wonder how I'm going to get to work Friday morning...it turns out...doesn't matter, we were then hit by a tornado at about 8pm that night and I've got significant damage...hurrah...!
Serious on getting tornado damage or April fools post? ( I'm hoping April fools )
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Thank God they found a temporary fix.
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Thank God they found a temporary fix.
That would be more like a temporary disaster. Have you ever driven in Atlanta? Being in that place gives a whole new meaning to wanting a freaking rocket launcher on your car. If you can make it through there WITHOUT a backup of some type, it is a Crimmus miracle.
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Looks like Atlanta needs an alternate way to get around!

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