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03-26-2024, 7:33am | #2061 | |||||||
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Yea. You get your $100 back. Great. Doesn’t change the fact that what was advertised doesn’t exist… but you can buy something twice as expensive. The context that you’re missing is a guy that has no problem with that but wants to censor and regulate the entire internet to prevent people being “misled” by some hypothetical car that took too long to cycle out of listings on 3rd party websites and is no longer available. |
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A customer was lured in with the expectation and promise of a $40,000 "truck" that Elon couldn't deliver. Rather than making the cheaper versions he is now... IN YOUR WORDS... "milking" the market and only producing the $$$ versions. Quote:
Here, let me refresh your memory. It wasn't Covid that stopped the $40k version. It was the f**king reality of manufacturing. Elon made shit up without any basis of fact behind it in order to sell vehicles. But hey, the good news is that at some point in the future, you may be able to spend an additional $16,000(*), take up a huge chunk of the bed with another massive ass battery pack, add almost 1,000 pounds of weight which will without question decrease all of those acceleration numbers that you love so much, and then, maybe you can get slightly closer to the range that he originally said it would have. Somehow in your mind, THAT, along with continued price increases (because Elon can't seem to figure out what production costs)... is perfectly ok, but the natural cycle of database updates that causes a delay in listings being removed from 3rd party websites such as Autotrader is immoral, unethical, misleading, and (in addition to how filters are applied to search engines) should be regulated by the federal government. Even if the magical range extender was available today, there is no way possible to get the advertised range, the advertised cargo room, and the advertised "performance" simultaneously. But no worries... I'm sure it's all spelled out in the fine print. Definitely not misleading at all. |
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And to be very clear, I don't care how much Elon oversold the "truck". It's marketing. If you're stupid enough to buy something years in advance based on a bunch of promises, you deserve whatever comes your way.
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Why does that mean you can't buy it for the price advertised? Yes, it "could" mean you can't, but it is not definite. Go in and offer the listed price. They'll say yes or no. |
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Same happened to Ford.. Where is the $39990 F150 Lightning https://www.reddit.com/r/electricveh...974_price_tag/ https://www.motor1.com/news/508435/2...ghtning-debut/ https://www.caranddriver.com/fisker/ocean EVERY SINGLE MANUFACTURER was affected! |
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All you had to give for a spot in line was $100 fully refundable deposit. Nobody is being harmed.. It's not like people put thousands of $$ down to get the car.. It was $100 only.
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Where do I send my $100 to get on the Roadster list??
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Wait, what??? The goal of advertising is to get people to shop for something? Huh, who knew? So, what new law would prevent sales people from being the "masters of deception?" If you were King for a day, how - exactly - would you put a stop to that? |
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...and all you had to do was sit on your ass and read what was written in the ad. It didn't cost you a dime. Nobody is being harmed. It's not like people put thousands of $$ down to get a car. It was $0 only.
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You know, the 1 where he broke the unbreakable windows. The 1 where he claimed it would be $40,000 and have a 500 mile range. You conveniently skipped that 500 mile part. Was that also because of Covid, or did he lie to get people to get in line to buy his truck? |
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Holy shit. Sales people at dealerships are normal f**king people who sell cars. They are already required by law to quite literally show you every single penny of the deal. Car sales is the most transparent industry there is. From the financing aspect to any of the add-ons, no matter how valuable or worthless they may be, absolutely every penny has to be accounted of on the sales paperwork. Every customer has it in front of them to read and to sign. If you are so catastrophically stupid that you have every number in front of you, STILL don't know what it means, and get "played like a fiddle", you shouldn't be buying a car without help in the first place. |
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2) that price can't have any conditional discounts taken out of. Available discounts with eligibility criteria should be listed in the ad 3) the price can have discounts taken out (like factory rebate) that every buyer can get. 4) any dealer add ons have to be included in the listed price There should be no car ads without a price listed. Why would anyone not wanting to mislead people be opposed to that? |
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I rented houses to many people over the years and I never saw anyone really read through all the 5 pages of the contract. I could have sneaked things in if I wanted but I'm an ethical person, so I don't do that. |
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Nobody is arguing in favor of misleading people. The problem is that you go completely the hell off the rails when you think that the government should restrict what is posted on private websites, regulate how search engine results are displayed, decide what constitutes "misleading" and should somehow be responsible for saving you the 30 seconds it takes you to read what is actually said. |
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