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Old 03-08-2024, 8:23am   #1
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Default Have you ever wondered how much public schools cost

Per student per year ? Here’s the wonderful state of MD.

https://oese.ed.gov/ppe/maryland/

Some elementary students over $20K a year ! My F’n God what the hell have we created ?
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Some newscaster said we're spending $7K/month for every illegal - not sure that's true but somehow $20K/student (US citizens) might be a bargain.
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$18,000.00 here
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Goes straight to the union.
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look at the growth in administrative pay vs teachers.

actually, the number of administrators over the last 20 years too.
Insane.
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Just proves you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it.
Local city wants to replace a HS, went from 50 mil to almost 90.
And yes it's in the ghetto thus why they're trying to justify the costs.
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Look at the areas where they spend the most on education. Those areas normally are the worst producing and have the highest welfare rates.
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It should be mandatory before every election to post .Gov expenses during the politician's years. Our taxes will soon rival or exceed Europe.
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Per student per year ? Here’s the wonderful state of MD.

https://oese.ed.gov/ppe/maryland/

Some elementary students over $20K a year ! My F’n God what the hell have we created ?


Turning your children into gay communists isn't cheap.
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Goes straight to the union.
A big fat major chunk of it sure as Hell does
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The real problem is not many people get involved with there local school budgets, so ridiculous proposals come up on referendums

My real life example is our school board (made up mostly with retired teachers) decided that our high school is to old (built in 1976) and the joinor high school needed to be replaced, so they came up with a $98m proposal for a new highschool, it got voted down. Then, they (school board) said it failed because they did ask for enough money (Bigger high school) so they came back a year later with a $113M dollar proposal and then Covid hit, they now knew this was their opportunity and held a referendum on it and guess what, almost no elderly came to vote (too scared of Covid) and it passes

Now 2 years later the school is built but now the budget does not meet the cost, it has been stated they are $60m short and still need a swimming pool (the other high school has one) and the gym is not big enough

Every time I drive by this new school (now the second largest in the state) I give it the finger. I hope all the young familys with their $300,000 homes and 3 kids enjoy their higher taxes they voted for.
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I knew a librarian who had previously worked at an "underachieving" school.
They got anything they asked for, spent twice to three times what the school she was transferred to. I asked why she transferred, said it was the parents and the library wasn't really used. She had been librarian a very long time and she said throwing money at the problem without it being actually spent on what it should be didn't fix anything. Short term fix at best.
Also here at least when a school is underachieving the busing starts and just ruins the good schools. The middle school was run like a prison as it had been used to bus in the hood rats for 5 years. Most of the quality teachers left and there was almost zero beyond the absolute basics available.
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I have posted on this subject more times than I can count.

public schools exist SOLELY to fund the dnc.
There is no standard of performance.
No one in the system can be removed.
There is no allowable input from parents.
The standardized test scores are pathetic, declining yearly.
The standardized test scores vs. other countries is embarrassing.

On top of both federal and state and county monies, which is above $15K in most districts, the schools have tons of debt for bond issuances.

teachers are EASILY the best compensated four-year degree holders in society.
they are required to work only 180 days/year, 6-7 hours/day, no nights, no weekends.
Almost all pay ZERO for their benefits, and ALMOST ALL receive a pension.

My math says the average teacher is paid $55K/year salary, benefits are worth about $10K/year, the pension is at least another $10K/year.

Thus, $75K/year total compensation puts hourly at $60, I have yet to meet an RN that is paid $60/hour, and all nurses I know pay for their benefits, while none I know have pensions.

The school districts in our country are not in place to educate and assist in nuturing young minds.
The school districts in our country SOLELY EXIST so that the dnc can continue to be the frontrunner in supporting the socialist takeover.
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Teachers in NC once they have tenure are almost impossible to get rid of.
I got a principal to admit he was stuck with a transfer and she was the worst teacher he'd seen. My son was stuck with her.
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Yup, I've been reminding folks that the Commucrat actions are EXACTLY Cloward-Piven
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But I don’t think collapse will result in the population turning to socialism. We already have socialism ~, and most people know it, which is why Trump is so popular and Biden isn’t.

I think a collapse will result in a return to our Constitutional roots, eventually. Time’s telling.
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I have a buddy and he's always bitching about how little his wife (teacher) makes.

I finally started calling him out on the bullshit and asked about the benefits.
He got quiet, REAL quick.

he still grouses about the take home pay from time to time, but he knows...
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The gov and school districts are FULL OF SHIT.
You will NEVER get a question answered.

Case in point:
google Broward Schools costs per student

You will get $10,480 from this site
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12...90%20Sw%2043Rd

Well, that is false, part of a narrative, to keep you less angry

Get wise, google Broward Schools Budget
You will get $5.3B, https://www.wlrn.org/education/2023-...strict-budgets
NOTE, broward schools increase the property tax millage rate 8% in 2023

So now you can do your own math, take the enrollment and divide into the $5.3B budget

Of course figuring out the enrollment numbers is difficult, as the school districts only provides 'their' data.

Here is what I found:
2023 broward schools enrollment is only 197K in their schools
another 50K in county charter schools
https://www.wlrn.org/education/2024-...nity-townhalls
https://www.browardschools.com/Page/34033

Hmmm, how about that, in my county 21% of students ARE NOT in public schools, they are in charter schools,,, wonder why??

Another obvious question is why has broward schools not closed schools and reduce teacher count when over 20% of students are not in their system,,, great question you WILL NEVER get answered.

Okay, to finish out, $5.3B budget for 247K students, $21,500 per student.

The $21,500 will never be disclosed to you, you have to find the numbers and do the math.

ALSO, broward schools received $800M maintenance bond by idiot voters in 2014.
These monies have been stolen and misused, the debt payments are for at least 20 years.

This is par for the course for ALL GOV ENTITIES, you will find it everywhere.
In ANY GOV ENTITY, you can reduce costs by 25% in three years if you applied normal business policies.

Look at this big waste of our monies, $40M for a unneeded city hall for a city of 130K:

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Per student per year ? Here’s the wonderful state of MD.

https://oese.ed.gov/ppe/maryland/

Some elementary students over $20K a year ! My F’n God what the hell have we created ?
Good paying and high benefits union jobs with an excellent pension plan and nearly zero chance of being fired.

If I was Trump the Dept of Ed would be shuttered on day one.
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