Beriut Explosion - Holee Chit !! Was That A Hydrogen Bomb?

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

I've worked with several engineers that grew up in Lebanon. They all said the same thing: "Nicest part of Lebanon was when my plane to America took off."

They had a 15 year civil war. As of January 2019, Lebanon had the highest emigration rate out of 225 countries surveyed of 40.3 people per 1000. i haven't heard of many people going to start a new life in...Beirut.

So you tell me who is right.

Clearly you MUST be right huh? Living the American dream surrounded by things that make you feel like your life is better than people in other parts of the world.



Enjoy your things now....you won't get to take them with you.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

Clearly you MUST be right huh? Living the American dream surrounded by things that make you feel like your life is better than people in other parts of the world.



Enjoy your things now....you won't get to take them with you.

Please spare me the "Living the American Dream" guilt trip. It's not going to work. The Lebenese people have basically destroyed their own country in an insane civil war.

And for your information, the only thing I'm "taking with me" is a picture of each of my children and my dogs ashes. When I'm done, I'm done. But I worked hard and studied hard and I EARNED the privilege of enjoying these things while I'm here with absolutely zero guilt. And I make no excuses or apologies for it. I have no intention of living under a bridge in order to make some bleeding heart think that I have a social conscience worthy of the Nobel Prize. That's just nuts.

[Defib1961]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Please spare me the "Living the American Dream" guilt trip. It's not going to work. The Lebenese people have basically destroyed their own country in an insane civil war.

And for your information, the only thing I'm "taking with me" is a picture of each of my children and my dogs ashes. When I'm done, I'm done. But I worked hard and studied hard and I EARNED the privilege of enjoying these things while I'm here with absolutely zero guilt. And I make no excuses or apologies for it. I have no intention of living under a bridge in order to make some bleeding heart think that I have a social conscience worthy of the Nobel Prize. That's just nuts.

Can I have you golf clubs?

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by Defib1961

Can I have you golf clubs?

They won't help.

[Brubie]

In the last 24 hours

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

I've worked with several engineers that grew up in Lebanon. They all said the same thing: "Nicest part of Lebanon was when my plane to America took off."

In Ireland, In Lebanon
In Palastine and Berkley
Patty Hurst
Heard the burst
Of Roland's Thompson Gun
And bought it.

[dwjz06]

Originally Posted by Gozar

Scientists are estimating 3 kiloton yield. About 1/5th the yield of Little Boy that leveled Hiroshima.

Damn man long time no see

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Please spare me the "Living the American Dream" guilt trip. It's not going to work. The Lebenese people have basically destroyed their own country in an insane civil war.

And for your information, the only thing I'm "taking with me" is a picture of each of my children and my dogs ashes. When I'm done, I'm done. But I worked hard and studied hard and I EARNED the privilege of enjoying these things while I'm here with absolutely zero guilt. And I make no excuses or apologies for it. I have no intention of living under a bridge in order to make some bleeding heart think that I have a social conscience worthy of the Nobel Prize. That's just nuts.

Clearly...since the only time you come here to post is to point out how others are wrong, how much better you are than others, or what new expensive toy you feel the need to brag about. It is just a matter of time before your feelings are hurt (yet again) and you run off for another sabbatical from here until you find the need to come back and post about one of the said aforementioned topics.

[VatorMan]

It's not like something like that hasn't happened here.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...icago-disaster

An ammunition ship explodes while being loaded in Port Chicago, California, killing 332 people on July 17, 1944. The United States’ World War II military campaign in the Pacific was in full swing at the time. Poor procedures and lack of training led to the disaster.

Port Chicago, about 30 miles north of San Francisco, was developed into a munitions facility when the Naval Ammunition Depot at Mare Island, California, could not fully supply the war effort. By the summer of 1944, expansion of the Port Chicago facility allowed for loading two ships at once around the clock. The Navy units assigned to the dangerous loading operations were generally segregated African-American units. For the most part, these men had not been trained in handling munitions. Additionally, safety standards were forgotten in the rush to keep up frenetic loading schedules.

On the evening of July 17, the SS Quinault Victory and SS E.A. Bryan, two merchant ships, were being loaded. The holds were being packed with 4,600 tons of explosives–bombs, depth charges and ammunition. Another 400 tons of explosives were nearby on rail cars. Approximately 320 workers were on or near the pier when, at 10:18 p.m., a series of massive explosions over several seconds destroyed everything and everyone in the vicinity. The blasts were felt as far away as Nevada and the resulting damage extended as far as San Francisco. Every building in Port Chicago was damaged and people were literally knocked off their feet. Smoke and fire extended nearly two miles into the air. The pilot of a plane flying at 9,000 feet in the area claimed that metal chunks from the explosion flew past him.

Nearly two-thirds of the people killed at Port Chicago were African-American enlisted men in the Navy—15 percent of all African-Americans killed during World War II. The surviving men in these units, who helped put out the fires and saw the horrors firsthand, were quickly reassigned to Mare Island. Less than a month later, when ordered to load more munitions, but still having received no training, 258 African-American sailors refused to carry out the orders. Two hundred and eight of them were then sentenced to bad conduct discharges and pay forfeiture. The remaining 50 men were put on trial for general court martial. They were sentenced to between eight and 15 years of hard labor, though two years later all were given clemency. A 1994 review of the trials revealed race played a large factor in the harsh sentences. In December 1999, President Clinton pardoned Freddie Meeks, one of only three of the 50 convicted sailors known to be alive at the time.

The Port Chicago disaster eventually led to the implementation of far safer procedures for loading ammunition. In addition, greater emphasis was put on proper training in explosives handling and the munitions themselves were altered for greater safety. There is now a national memorial to the victims at the site.

I spent 5.5 years on the USS Flint (Ammunition ship) and another 3 years at Naval Weapons Station Concord. AN anchor was flung 1/2 a mile. Windows were broken in San Francisco. Everyone speculated espionage, when it was just good old fashioned carelessness.

Dixie, I've spent more time than you in 3rd world countries. They just DGAF. People are cheaper and easier to find than safety measures.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

Dixie, I've spent more time than you in 3rd world countries. They just DGAF. People are cheaper and easier to find than safety measures.

But you can agree the issue is not the people, but the leadership and corruption with the willingness to sacrifice their own for the benefit ($$$) of their own pockets.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

But you can agree the issue is not the people, but the leadership and corruption with the willingness to sacrifice their own for the benefit ($$$) of their own pockets.

Bam!!!!! This is wrong thinking.


No, the issue is the people. At anytime a strong populace can overthrow a government.


This is why I argue like I do.

Anytime the government is larger than the individual you get a third world shit hole country.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

But you can agree the issue is not the people,

but the leadership and corruption with the willingness to sacrifice their own for the benefit ($$$) of their own pockets.

Sound familiar?

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

But you can agree the issue is not the people, but the leadership and corruption with the willingness to sacrifice their own for the benefit ($$$) of their own pockets.

Someone has to give you that power. Acceptance rather than refusal is that power. America changed because people stood up to their oppressors. People with no money or hope are a dangerous lot- IF they are willing to do it.

That's why I don't take the old, What can they do ? excuse.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by z06psi

Bam!!!!! This is wrong thinking.


No, the issue is the people. At anytime a strong populace can overthrow a government.


This is why I argue like I do.

Anytime the government is larger than the individual you get a third world shit hole country.

The problem here is, their PSP is run by a leading terrorist organization and radical representatives from certain religious communities.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

The problem here is, their PSP is run by a leading terrorist organization and radical representatives from certain religious communities.

No different than Iran. Also no different than Iraq and I can tell you the men in Iraq were/are soft.


I have been there and seen it.

[z06psi]

This could also be said about certain communities in our own country.

The only people that can change a neighborhood are the people within that neighborhood.

Government and police can only do so much although they are necessary to assist that neighborhood bettering itself.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by z06psi

This could also be said about certain communities in our own country.

The only people that can change a neighborhood are the people within that neighborhood.

Government and police can only do so much although they are necessary to assist that neighborhood bettering itself.

Absolutely true. Silence is acceptance.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

But you can agree the issue is not the people,
but the leadership and corruption with the willingness to sacrifice their own for the benefit ($$$) of their own pockets.

Originally Posted by z06psi

This could also be said about certain communities in our own country.
The only people that can change a neighborhood are the people within that neighborhood.
Government and police can only do so much although they are necessary to assist that neighborhood bettering itself.

And when you add what is bolded above; you have Baltimore, Chicago, Compton, etc...
It's the perfect recipe for crime and poverty.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Dixievet

Clearly...since the only time you come here to post is to point out how others are wrong, how much better you are than others, or what new expensive toy you feel the need to brag about. It is just a matter of time before your feelings are hurt (yet again) and you run off for another sabbatical from here until you find the need to come back and post about one of the said aforementioned topics.

Subscribed.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by z06psi

a strong populace can overthrow a government.