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Old 04-05-2012, 12:15pm   #1
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Default We know that Zimmerman called him a "F*cking *oon"

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CNN Back Peddles: George Zimmerman Said ‘Cold’ Not ‘Coon’
CNN now walks back their initial claim that George Zimmerman used the racial slur ‘coons’ while speaking to the 911 dispatcher.

We know Zimmerman had no injuries to the back of his head

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ABC News exclusive: ABC News was wrong about George Zimmerman’s injuries.
a still image from the video indicates what appears to be a vertical laceration or scar several inches long.

ABC News has reversed itself. Not a correction. Not a retraction. An “exclusive.” Their big scoop is that their previous big scoop was wrong.

from ABC: "Enhanced video footage of George Zimmerman being taken into custody less than 30 minutes after he shot and killed Florida teenTrayvon Martin shows the neighborhood watch captain with an injury to the back of his head."

CNN reports this new piece of video evidence would appear to lend credence to opposing versions of what happened the night Trayvon Martin died.

Sanford police released a new, higher-resolution surveillance video of Zimmerman entering the police station the night of Martin's death on February 26. The sharper footage shows a gash on Zimmerman's head more clearly than a previously released video.

So, now even CNN, ABC, NBC are admitting:

a. the NBC 911 call was doctored.

b. that Zimmerman never said the word "coon"

c. Video and EMS/ER records verify a gask on the back of the guards head.

I guess this will shut the mouths of Jackson, Sharpton, Black Panthers, and those still stuck in a cult.


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This gets more ridiculous every day.

This case is exactly why you should be extra-cautious when you have a CCW.
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Curiouser and curiouser (and shit!)
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The court system is a f'kn joke anyways. A little girl gets murdered and her drunk ass party mother walks free, you steal $62k from a senior citizen you get 7 years in prison yet you hire an undercover cop to kill members of your family and you get 5 years in jail. At this point in time I have no faith in the justice system (yours or mine), it's a laughable at best and disgustingly shameful at worst. Cops walk free, murderers get a slap on the wrist, punk ass kids go to a fat camp and innocent people are being exonerated on a weekly basis. I weep for our society at present and fear that it's not going to get any better.
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Let's all assume that ol' Zimmerman is the most non-bigoted, big-hearted, colorblind SOB that ever walked the planet.
Let's assume that he was really tired of of living in a high-crime chithole of a 'hood and took his volunteer neighborhood watch "deputy" status very seriously.
Let's assume that Martin rushed him after he was confronted by Zimmerman and that Zimmerman did shoot him in self-defense.

Guess what?

Zimmerman may not be guilty of murder, but he will absolutely lose the civil suit that is sure to follow. From now on, he will pay every dime he has or is gonna have to the Martin family.

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Guess what?

Zimmerman may not be guilty of murder, but he will absolutely lose the civil suit that is sure to follow.
wanna bet ?

Any civil suit won; will be overturned... and then a new suit filed... for it to be also overturned; until the lawyers see there's no money in it. Then the civil suits will vanish.
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Let's all assume that ol' Zimmerman is the most non-bigoted, big-hearted, colorblind SOB that ever walked the planet.
Let's assume that he was really tired of of living in a high-crime chithole of a 'hood and took his volunteer neighborhood watch "deputy" status very seriously.
Let's assume that Martin rushed him after he was confronted by Zimmerman and that Zimmerman did shoot him in self-defense.

Guess what?

Zimmerman may not be guilty of murder, but he will absolutely lose the civil suit that is sure to follow. From now on, he will pay every dime he has or is gonna have to the Martin family.

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Under the self defense laws in Florida, if he is found to have justly used lethal force for his defense, he is immune from those lawsuits.
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wanna bet ?

Any civil suit won; will be overturned... and then a new suit filed... for it to be also overturned; until the lawyers see there's no money in it. Then the civil suits will vanish.
Yes, I will take that bet and give you odds. (2/1)

He can appeal or whatever and I don't know how much the Martin's will ever actually collect, but I know for fact he will lose on wrongful death. Remember, the burden of proof is substantially less in a civil suit.

Whether either one of us will live long enough to have to pay off is another matter.

It will be tied up in the courts for a long damn while.
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It will be tied up in the courts for a long damn while.

Hell, it'll probably land in the Supreme Court before all's said and done.
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Under the self defense laws in Florida, if he is found to have justly used lethal force for his defense, he is immune from those lawsuits.
That's a good thing to know and an excellent law, but I think his problem is going to come in by the fact that he escalated the situation.

There's enough doubt about the death that I think he's in a bind on the civil side.

Of course, my law degree is hanging on the wall right by my medical degree.
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That's a good thing to know and an excellent law, but I think his problem is going to come in by the fact that he escalated the situation.

There's enough doubt about the death that I think he's in a bind on the civil side.

Of course, my law degree is hanging on the wall right by my medical degree.
If he used the weapon in self defense, he was defending himself not escalating. His side of the story says he was attacked after he stopped following Treyvon. If the police can't prove otherwise I think he will be absolutely immune from any lawsuits that result.
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If he used the weapon in self defense, he was defending himself not escalating. His side of the story says he was attacked after he stopped following Treyvon. If the police can't prove otherwise I think he will be absolutely immune from any lawsuits that result.
Did he get out of the truck and follow Treyvon after he talked to 911?
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Did he get out of the truck and follow Treyvon after he talked to 911?
My impression was he was following and once 911 told him to stop, he headed back to his truck, which is where he was attacked from behind, near his truck.

This was my impression a few days/week ago, so if new info has come out, forgive me.
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My impression was he was following and once 911 told him to stop, he headed back to his truck, which is where he was attacked from behind, near his truck.

This was my impression a few days/week ago, so if new info has come out, forgive me.
If that's the case, he is in better shape than I thought.

It's damn hard to know the "facts" as they seem to change daily.
I thought he got out of the truck and followed Treyvon after he talked with 911, so if I heard that wrong, that's a key point.
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It's damn hard to know the "facts" as they seem to change daily.

Reckon this'll be the new trial of the century?
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Under the self defense laws in Florida, if he is found to have justly used lethal force for his defense, he is immune from those lawsuits.
He's 250 lbs, Martin was 140 soaking wet, there were no weapons found anywhere near Martin, where is it justified to use lethal force? The guy had 110 lbs on the kid who didn't have any form of combat/martial arts training, are you saying that Zimmerman got his ass handed to him by a 18 yo skinny kid and was in fear of his life?
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My impression was he was following and once 911 told him to stop, he headed back to his truck, which is where he was attacked from behind, near his truck.

This was my impression a few days/week ago, so if new info has come out, forgive me.
That is accurate.

Zimmerman was asked by 911 to give them a street and apartment number (this is after he lost site of Trayvon). Zimmerman walked around to the front of the building/apartment/condos... got an accurate unit number - and was walking back to his vehicle. This is all proven via the full and entire 911 recording... not the NBC doctored version

Trayvon followed Zimmerman; and at that point confronted the guard.

it's this simple; if you're wanting the facts; they are out there (though you will have to dig to find them).

If your belief system only wants it appear to be one way... & one way only; then you can pick & choose from the mis-information and fashion a story (though not accurate) that keeps one in the graces of their cult.
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He's 250 lbs, Martin was 140 soaking wet, there were no weapons found anywhere near Martin, where is it justified to use lethal force? The guy had 110 lbs on the kid who didn't have any form of combat/martial arts training, are you saying that Zimmerman got his ass handed to him by a 18 yo skinny kid?
Yeah an 18 y/o punk, jumped an older fatter guy? Sure, it happens all the time.

Not to mention the injuries incurred by Zimmermann are consistent with his story.
No where does the law say you have to match force, or even fear for your life, only that you're entitled to defend yourself.
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It's damn hard to know the "facts" as they seem to change daily.

Reckon this'll be the new trial of the century?


but when it's black on black or white on white....you never hear about them
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Yeah an 18 y/o punk, jumped an older fatter guy? Sure, it happens all the time.

Not to mention the injuries incurred by Zimmermann are consistent with his story.
No where does the law say you have to match force, or even fear for your life, only that you're entitled to defend yourself.
an 18 y o 140 lb punk against a 250 lb man, face to face, no jumping involved, yeah, that does happen all the time.

Did Zimmerman even mention to the kid that he had a gun, of course not.
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