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Old 02-11-2018, 2:05pm   #21
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Let's tax the crap out of rich nations and transfer wealth to poor ones, in the name of stopping plate tectonics Now!










It's for the children.
Already got it in Cap and Trade. But you probably already knew that..
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....you all are too much. All I wanted to do was to post this little video of a guy who is on the front line, unlike ALL OF YOU! I wrongly thought you might have an open mind if you saw something like that. You're always asking for evidence, and facts.....and when you get them you crap on it anyway. Why bother even posting around here.
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I don't deny climate is changing. It's been doing it for millions of years.

I don't deny mankind has had an effect on the change in climate.

What I do not accept is the massive amount of money the progressives want to take from the more productive societies and give to the least productive in order to make it life "Fair".
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The unmolested satellite data since 2007 has remained constant. That is, no net warming of the atmosphere. We were told 30 years ago that we'd reach a tipping point in 15 years, beyond which if we didn't give the governments near unlimited power we'd all be doomed. And then they added another 15 years. Kerrmudgeon, they've been lying to you. It's not a crisis, and the increase in CO2 from 3 out of very 10,000 air molecules to 4 out of every 10,000 molecules, of which human activity accounts for somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 that increase, isn't going to do shit. You can find any number of places on Earth that have had their micro-climate undergo large changes in pretty much any time frame you can choose.

Isn't a larger problem up there in Canada the use of words with "man" in them?
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Kermie- I don’t care what you post as long as you don’t run out of avatars!
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Climate change is a real thing.
The climate changes daily.

WEATHER changes daily ....
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I don't deny climate is changing. It's been doing it for millions of years.

I don't deny mankind has had an effect on the change in climate.

What I do not accept is the massive amount of money the progressives want to take from the more productive societies and give to the least productive in order to make it life "Fair".
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let's assume you are right for sake of argument.

what should I do to reverse/halt this change?
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let's assume you are right for sake of argument.

what should I do to reverse/halt this change?
Well, I guess you can start by not chopping down a bunch of trees making nice stuff in your wood shop.
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Actually, I would think global warming would be very good news for Canada.

For Arizona, not so much.
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Climate change is real.

"Models" are virtually worthless bull-shit and anyone who claims to know with any shred of certainty what the effects of climate change will be, how different the future would be without human C02 emissions, and what the best course of action is re: balancing environmental protections and free enterprise/energy production/etc. is a charlatan, a liar, and a fraud.
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Well then maybe we should arrange a chat between your guy and these folks.

https://steemit.com/science/@zhanmus...ete-fraud-hoax

1000 Scientists Declare Man Made Global Warming Climate Change a Complete Fraud / Hoax


Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history...When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.”
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All you naysayer don't get the POINT of climate change. It's not that it's changing....it's that it's changing faster that it ever has, save meteors and volcanoes, in the history of the world, and that is from what humans are doing!
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Actually cow flatulence probably beats human emissions by a fair bit, if you believe that particular bit of research. So eat more beef, more beans and eschew carpooling... you will likely be "carbon neutral" in the long run.
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How can we get Nancy Pelosi to stop chewing her cud?
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This is attempted BS.

I know of no one that denies that the climate "changes". What is denied is the thinly veiled attempts to convice the weak minded that they need to embrace socialism.

Since "man-made" global warming crisis now has a lot of doubters... the socialists are deleting that "manmade" part while still championing higher taxes and reduced freedoms.

The climate is in constant change, and has been since the dawn of time. There are soooooo many laws - rules -regulations about disposal; but its never enough???


This is what otherwise good ideas turn into when you make them the responsibility of unaccountable bureaucrats. Should we punish people who dump motor oil into the sewer or toss barrels of waste chemicals into the nearest river or ocean? Yes. Should we attempt to manage our natural resources through conservation and recycling so we continue to have nice things like trees and low-background steel? Yes. Should we continue to innovate in the areas of energy generation and storage? Yes.

Should we use the climatology equivalent of the Loch Ness Monster story to subvert market forces, thwart free will, and confiscate wealth to serve narrow perspectives on "how things should be"? F**k no.
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That pretty much nails it. Right in line with my earlier "Oh, Canada" thread.
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One must be culinarilly challenged to eat any of that slop. I make my own sloppy joe sauce.
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One must be culinarilly challenged to eat any of that slop. I make my own sloppy joe sauce.
It might have less to do with culinary ability than it does pressing the "Easy" button when it's already 7:00 PM on a school night, everyone is cranky, and there are roughly seven foods known to man that everyone will actually eat without bitching. For that, Manwich is as good as anything to come out of an Iron Chef kitchen. In a perfect world, I'd make all our food from scratch, everyone would leave work on time, kids will eat anything and love it, and the kitchen will clean itself. Until that happens, though, Manwich keeps its spot on the roster.
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It might have less to do with culinary ability than it does pressing the "Easy" button when it's already 7:00 PM on a school night, everyone is cranky, and there are roughly seven foods known to man that everyone will actually eat without bitching. For that, Manwich is as good as anything to come out of an Iron Chef kitchen. In a perfect world, I'd make all our food from scratch, everyone would leave work on time, kids will eat anything and love it, and the kitchen will clean itself. Until that happens, though, Manwich keeps its spot on the roster.
I will say that since I now own a weighted pressure cooker, I can make my own sauces to be used on a daily basis. Looks like I need to make some Manwich sauce.
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