Trump is His Own Worst Enemy

[Aerovette]

Bill,

If Trump had never run for office, he'd be twice as rich and most likely embraced by the very people spewing hate. He had a TV show, was in movies, an SNL host, and a Simpsons character. THEN he rocked the corrupt DC boat and pissed off Hillary. She got the claws out, opened her book of DC secrets and pictures and started the process to set everyone against him.

All of this is understandable. What I am completely baffled by, is why the general public, who had EVERYTHING to gain by his presidency, pick the wrong side of the fence.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Taurus

I guess it's easy for me to say having never been in that position but I would still want to face my accuser. He's getting the abuse either way.

I do understand your reasoning, just not sure I agree.

Here's the accuser, in her own words. Even Anderson Cooper was desperately trying to cut to commercial to try and hide this:

https://patriots.win/p/16b5qGg88t/ju...ejean-carro/c/

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[Taurus]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Here's the accuser, in her own words. Even Anderson Cooper was desperately trying to cut to commercial to try and hide this:

https://patriots.win/p/16b5qGg88t/ju...ejean-carro/c/



https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/...n-carro%2Fc%2F

I’m aware.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Bill,

If Trump had never run for office, he'd be twice as rich and most likely embraced by the very people spewing hate. He had a TV show, was in movies, an SNL host, and a Simpsons character. THEN he rocked the corrupt DC boat and pissed off Hillary. She got the claws out, opened her book of DC secrets and pictures and started the process to set everyone against him.

All of this is understandable. What I am completely baffled by, is why the general public, who had EVERYTHING to gain by his presidency, pick the wrong side of the fence.

Again, the problem with the demographics in this group is that you can’t imagine people feel differently. They do.

In the most unbiased forum I post in it’s at least 3 to 1 against another 4 years of Trump. I golfed a few days ago, there were 8 of us, all Republicans but only one Trump supporter. It’s not 2016 anymore.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Again, the problem with the demographics in this group is that you can’t imagine people feel differently. They do.

In the most unbiased forum I post in it’s at least 3 to 1 against another 4 years of Trump. I golfed a few days ago, there were 8 of us, all Republicans but only one Trump supporter. It’s not 2016 anymore.

Oh there is no doubt about the numbers. It's the reasoning I find baffling.

I made more money in my portfolio
Gas prices were lower
Unemployment was lower
The military was more robust
China was feeling the squeeze
There were no trannies dancing for children

I mean hell yeah, life was good, but Trump served cheeseburgers in the White House...and lied about how many. He's GOT TO GO !!

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by LATB

If you had to endure what he has put up with I suppose you too would be vocal about it.

You know Larry, for someone who's big on decorum your support of Trump makes little sense to me.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Oh there is no doubt about the numbers. It's the reasoning I find baffling.

I made more money in my portfolio
Gas prices were lower
Unemployment was lower
The military was more robust
China was feeling the squeeze
There were no trannies dancing for children

I mean hell yeah, life was good, but Trump served cheeseburgers in the White House...and lied about how many. He's GOT TO GO !!

Didn’t say I agreed, just making a point. FYI, I’ve made way more on my investments the past two years than the previous 4, not sure that’s a good marker. Also, the tariff war was devastating to US businesses.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Taurus

No, I would march down to that courthouse and tell my side and defend myself rather than leave it in the hands of my lawyers. I suspect you would as well.

A man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by aerovette

All of this is understandable. What I am completely baffled by, is why the general public, who had EVERYTHING to gain by his presidency, pick the wrong side of the fence.

Because some people want a leader who acts like a leader, not a spoiled brat. Weird, huh?

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Because some people want a leader who acts like a leader, not a spoiled brat. Weird, huh?

A leader that acts like a leader but doesn't do shit for the country vs a leader that has rough edges but gets shit done.

I'll take the rough edges. Used to be all men had rough edges. Now they have to be soft and cuddly or they are ostracized.

Obama acted like a leader...and led us down this shithole path we are on today.

I don't care about how they ACT. I care about what they DO.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by aerovette

A leader that acts like a leader but doesn't do shit for the country vs a leader that has rough edges but gets shit done.
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Trump got so much done he's in court fighting multiple accusations from multiple individuals and his very existance has polarized this country like no other POTUS in history. That's a ****ing LEADER right there.

[Taurus]

Originally Posted by LATB

A man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client.

Never said he should represent himself, I said he should testify on his own behalf instead of have his lawyers tell his story to the jury. Big difference.

[99 pewtercoupe]

I voted for Trump twice but I really don’t want to see him as the candidate in 2024. He is making this campaign all about him and revenge. He will lose.

He will not be able to draw the independent and even many Democrat voters who don’t want Sleepy Joe (and by default, cackling Kamala) as POTUS.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by 99 pewtercoupe

I voted for Trump twice but I really don’t want to see him as the candidate in 2024. He is making this campaign all about him and revenge. He will lose.

He had his chance and he blew it in spectacular fashion.

[Bill]

Life imitates art? Law and Order episode eerily similar to Carroll's claim.

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[LATB]

Originally Posted by Taurus

Never said he should represent himself, I said he should testify on his own behalf instead of have his lawyers tell his story to the jury. Big difference.

Wise not to testify because sure enough something he said would be exploited.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Giraffe (He/Him)

He had his chance and he blew it in spectacular fashion.

He had 2 years with Republicans in control and the rino’s wouldn’t work with him. And his entire presidency was under investigation. It made his attempts to accomplish any meaningful legislation impossible. By design.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Because some people want a leader who acts like a leader, not a spoiled brat. Weird, huh?

This.
Our country needs a leader now.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by LATB

He had 2 years with Republicans in control and the rino’s wouldn’t work with him. And his entire presidency was under investigation. It made his attempts to accomplish any meaningful legislation impossible. By design.

Act like a ****ing asshole from the time you start campaigning and that's what happens.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Giraffe (He/Him)

Act like a ****ing asshole from the time you start campaigning and that's what happens.

Actually the rino’s believed the Russian hoax, and were apprehensive about hitching their political wagons to this particular potus. Again, by design.

The Democrats won that political battle. A bunch of corrupt self serving assholes.

Additionally, the Russian hoax gave them control of the Congress in the midterms. Perfect. This allowed for nonstop investigations.

And once again, by design.

Democrats should be so proud.