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Old 07-07-2020, 10:03am   #81
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Thanks Mark...a normal respectful answer, based on your opinion and I respect that.

You are 100% correct...and those beliefs should be respected....so should the faith based beliefs of Mike Pence and Dirty Donald, they too are American citizens.


As far as what you do, or do not question/believe about the Bible is not for me to discuss.


No need to get back on Edison, the point is; everybody fails at one point or another...and many fail lots-0-times.
I admire those who continue to try, and those who continue to try and actually persevere....even if they are pricks.
Thanks Jimmy. It’s good that people with diametrically opposed ideas/ideals can still be friends, as it should be.

I don’t disrespect Pence’s Christian beliefs, but I am opposed to him imposing them on the American people as a powerful national/world leader.

I also don’t think gays are an “abomination”, nor does God. Man put that in the Bible. Some gays He created, some made a conscious choice, some don’t know what they are. Who am I to judge?
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Total number of gays leftists said Pence would put in camps: shitloads of them

Actual number of gays Pence put in camps: 0

Wars leftist said Trump/Pence would start: WWIII

Actual wars started by Trump/Pence: None

Can you see where this is headed?
I do have thoughts about this would/have thing BTW.
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Thanks Jimmy. It’s good that people with diametrically opposed ideas/ideals can still be friends, as it should be.

I don’t disrespect Pence’s Christian beliefs, but I am opposed to him imposing them on the American people as a powerful national/world leader.

Leaders of all sorts, since the beginning of time, impose their beliefs and ideologies.
This is not nothing new, it's done all over the world currently.
People vote for these leaders because they are like minded and agree with a majority their policies and ideologies.

And if you truly believe: "It’s good that people with diametrically opposed ideas/ideals can still be friends, as it should be." then perhaps that's the same stance we should take with our leaders if our opinions differ.



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We all judge. Not gonna find a quote obvy. It’s supposition on my part. A little tongue in cheek based on what I’ve read. I can link articles, but you can find them just as easily.

America was founded on Christian beliefs...244 years ago. Things have changed. We are still a melting pot and many Americans don’t share Christian beliefs because we were also founded on religious freedom. I find Pence’s faith-based LGBTQ position disturbing. JMHO. YMMV. I also find the Muslim faith’s LGBTQ doctrine disturbing. Gays have been around since before organized religion. Let them do their thing. Who cares?

I have faith in Christianity, but don’t believe every word of the (King James) Holy Bible is the gospel truth. It may be “the word of God”, but He didn’t write it. It’s influenced by the times, the king, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the 47 scholars/clergymen who compiled it. It is a great work with philosophical ideals everyone can benefit from, regardless of one’s faith or lack thereof, but it is not perfect because man is not perfect.

Have to get back to you on Edison because work.
I care only because now the left is pushing it in our face as well as teaching this or putting it out there to our kids in school etc... I could give a chit what you do behind your own closed doors. Don't tell me it is right or proper or tell my kids they should be part of it or involved in this cause.

Christianity seems to be what this country is based on. It has worked fine for that 200 plus years. No religion is perfect. Again keep your choice to yourself and live your life. Don't push the other crap on me or my kids or even teach them the other choices are ok. I do not push my beliefs on people why is it ok for them to do that to me and my family????

I know you personally so I try not to dog pile on you At least in our area your side has me out numbered by a lot. So I do not get into these discussions often. I have to keep my job etc.... IMHO you are a good dude, and that is what matters to me.
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Leaders of all sorts, since the beginning of time, impose their beliefs and ideologies.
This is not nothing new, it's done all over the world currently.
People vote for these leaders because they are like minded and agree with a majority their policies and ideologies.

And if you truly believe: "It’s good that people with diametrically opposed ideas/ideals can still be friends, as it should be." then perhaps that's the same stance we should take with our leaders if our opinions differ.

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In this country and this form of government, I’m allowed to openly speak out against our *elected* leadership. In my opinion Pence is misguided on his biblical stance against gays.
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In this country and this form of government, I’m allowed to openly speak out against our *elected* leadership. In my opinion Pence is misguided on his biblical stance against gays.


And so are you. Next
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In this country and this form of government, I’m allowed to openly speak out against our *elected* leadership. In my opinion Pence is misguided on his biblical stance against gays.


In my opinion your love for the Donk0's make baby Jesus cry.....
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In my opinion your love for the Donk0's make baby Jesus cry.....



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In my opinion your love for the Donk0's make baby Jesus cry.....

BTW, here's your new QB. Donk0's made him cry in the Super Bowl.
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BTW, here's your new QB. Donk0's made him cry in the Super Bowl.

pffft.....old news.




Yesterday ended with last night.

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Iron Maiden > Weather in Lafayette > Golden Nugget's of wisdom by Jimmy >
Having your friends see you with Porter.
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In this country and this form of government, I’m allowed to openly speak out against our *elected* leadership. In my opinion Pence is misguided on his biblical stance against gays.
So, what I'm hearing is that you prefer to watch gay porn over midget porn. Gotcha.
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Iron Maiden > Weather in Lafayette > Golden Nugget's of wisdom by Jimmy >
Having your friends see you with Porter > Buttsecks with Nancy Pelosi > Cam Newton as your QB.

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I care only because now the left is pushing it in our face as well as teaching this or putting it out there to our kids in school etc... I could give a chit what you do behind your own closed doors. Don't tell me it is right or proper or tell my kids they should be part of it or involved in this cause.

Christianity seems to be what this country is based on. It has worked fine for that 200 plus years. No religion is perfect. Again keep your choice to yourself and live your life. Don't push the other crap on me or my kids or even teach them the other choices are ok. I do not push my beliefs on people why is it ok for them to do that to me and my family????

I know you personally so I try not to dog pile on you At least in our area your side has me out numbered by a lot. So I do not get into these discussions often. I have to keep my job etc.... IMHO you are a good dude, and that is what matters to me.
Dog pile away. I hear what you’re saying about gays. Here’s my take. They have been ostracized and oppressed for eons and they are only recently becoming accepted for their “alternative lifestyle” so they are having their moment in the sun openly celebrating, generally without fear of violence. Let them have their moment. It’ll pass.

Christianity is part of what the nation was founded on. There are solid tenets that everyone should be able to agree on. However, leaders should be flexible and not pick and choose only what suits their agendas because there’s been some effed up stuff in the name of Christianity over those same eons.

As far as the left, I disagree with a lot of shit they spew, just as I disagree with a lot of shit from the right. I think we only hear BS from the loudest, most obnoxious of them because of social media and that reality is somewhere in between, just as it’s always been.

We need to consume more fermented beverages. That’s what I believe.

My $.02. YMMV
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Dog pile away. I hear what you’re saying about gays. Here’s my take. They have been ostracized and oppressed for eons and they are only recently becoming accepted for their “alternative lifestyle” so they are having their moment in the sun openly celebrating, generally without fear of violence. Let them have their moment. It’ll pass.

Christianity is part of what the nation was founded on. There are solid tenets that everyone should be able to agree on. However, leaders should be flexible and not pick and choose only what suits their agendas because there’s been some effed up stuff in the name of Christianity over those same eons.

As far as the left, I disagree with a lot of shit they spew, just as I disagree with a lot of shit from the right. I think we only hear BS from the loudest, most obnoxious of them because of social media and that reality is somewhere in between, just as it’s always been.

We need to consume more fermented beverages. That’s what I believe.

My $.02. YMMV
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We need to consume more fermented beverages. That’s what I believe.


More of the world’s problems could be solved this way if leaders just sat down and tipped a few
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Dog pile away. I hear what you’re saying about gays. Here’s my take. They have been ostracized and oppressed for eons and they are only recently becoming accepted for their “alternative lifestyle” so they are having their moment in the sun openly celebrating, generally without fear of violence. Let them have their moment. It’ll pass.

Christianity is part of what the nation was founded on. There are solid tenets that everyone should be able to agree on. However, leaders should be flexible and not pick and choose only what suits their agendas because there’s been some effed up stuff in the name of Christianity over those same eons.

As far as the left, I disagree with a lot of shit they spew, just as I disagree with a lot of shit from the right. I think we only hear BS from the loudest, most obnoxious of them because of social media and that reality is somewhere in between, just as it’s always been.

We need to consume more fermented beverages. That’s what I believe.

My $.02. YMMV
I got that part of religion when I saw this video today.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjntXYDPw44
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