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Old 06-20-2017, 8:28am   #1
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So the Chevy Cruze engine shuts down when at a light and restarts when foot is taken off of brake which prompted me to wonder....with cars that do this is there a increased number of starter motors replaced?

Since my 53 chevy I don't think I have ever replaced a starter. Just wondering,that is all.
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Supposedly, the cars with the start/stop "feature" have heavy duty starters, alternators and batteries.

Not sure if the start/stop can be overridden on your rental POS, but my Grand Cherokee has a button on the dash to turn the "feature" off. Unfortunately, I have to press the button again every time I start the car.
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I thought some of these cars were able to start stop without the use of the starter, due to direct injection.
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I thought some of these cars were able to start stop without the use of the starter, due to direct injection.
That is correct
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Supposedly, the cars with the start/stop "feature" have heavy duty starters, alternators and batteries.

Not sure if the start/stop can be overridden on your rental POS, but my Grand Cherokee has a button on the dash to turn the "feature" off. Unfortunately, I have to press the button again every time I start the car.
The wife's BMW has that switch and has stayed off for two years now,no need to reset it.The feature sucks on her car you can actually feel it start up,was not a fan of it.On Toyota hybrids it flawless can't feel the engine kick in at all.
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Hated it until I got a new LaCrosse. Like velvet.
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The computer remember which cylinders are in a position to fire, then adds fuel to those, sparks, and the car is running again.
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cool, I didn't even look if I could turn it off because I had it less than a week and didn't really care.
Interesting how that works,wonder how much it goes bad and what that can cost
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cool, I didn't even look if I could turn it off because I had it less than a week and didn't really care.
Interesting how that works,wonder how much it goes bad and what that can cost
There is no off switch on a Cruze.
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Our 2016 Cruze Premier has it and it is not at all annoying to us.
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Didn't annoy me either....just wondering
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If you are verrrry gentle with the brake at stoplights, you can keep the engine running most of the time. If I know it's going to be a long light, I don't worry about it and just let the car do its thing.
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It was pretty hot yesterday so what I did was when engine stopped I kept foot on brake but shifted into neutral.....started up and kept running until light changed.Then of course put it back in drive.
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I'm personally convinced that eventually one component or other will fail. Except now, instead of in a parking lot or your garage, it'll happen during rush-hour in the middle of traffic, in either 100 or -20 degree weather.
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It was pretty hot yesterday so what I did was when engine stopped I kept foot on brake but shifted into neutral.....started up and kept running until light changed.Then of course put it back in drive.
Push the A/C button until it turns yellow, green is Eco mode and will shut off more often.
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I thought some of these cars were able to start stop without the use of the starter, due to direct injection.
which ones?

I know that it's been shown on paper to be doable; but I am unaware of any production vehicles actually using this method.

Mazda is now selling some engines with their i-Stop System; but it still uses the starter.

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Mazda’s start-stop system, detects which piston is in the best position to restart quickest, which is the one in the combustion stroke phase, where air and fuel are in the cylinder, ready to be ignited. The mixture in this cylinder is ignited by the spark plug, forcing that piston down, and with partial-assistance from the starter motor, results in a near instantaneous engine restart time of 0.35 seconds.
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