Choose your color scheme:
The Vette Barn  
 
Go Back   The Vette Barn > Off Topic/Babes/Other > Off Topic

Off Topic Off Topic - General non-Corvette related discussion.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools
Old 11-16-2020, 12:55pm   #1
Jeff '79
Barn Stall Owner #2112
Fantasy Football Champ '14,'16,'20
Bantayan Kids '13
Points: 134,911, Level: 100
Activity: 7.6%
 
Jeff '79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WHERE I LAY MY HEAD IS HOME - REHO BEACH DELAWARE
Posts: 41,634
Thanks: 6,231
Thanked 10,304 Times in 6,188 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $3043611
Default Hey NOX

What is your view on Trump's personnel drawdown in Afghanistan and Iraq announced today ?
Personally, I think a presence is more important than not.
School me please.

Also, Trump's Pentagon moves.... Thoughts?
Jeff '79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2020, 1:10pm   #2
Nox
A Real Barner
Points: 10,383, Level: 70
Activity: 6.9%
 
Nox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,348
Thanks: 27
Thanked 1,331 Times in 538 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $7601
Default

I think Afghanistan and Iraq are just festering wounds that will never heal. All we do is to pick at the scabs, when we should be amputating those limbs once and for all. The people and culture have not changed in a millennia and won’t just because we go in to babysit. I think a military incursion is just a big waste of time.

I am not that worried about anything Trump does moving forward. I’m more worried about what Biden will do when he takes office.
Nox is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Nox For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 1:20pm   #3
Jeff '79
Barn Stall Owner #2112
Fantasy Football Champ '14,'16,'20
Bantayan Kids '13
Points: 134,911, Level: 100
Activity: 7.6%
 
Jeff '79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WHERE I LAY MY HEAD IS HOME - REHO BEACH DELAWARE
Posts: 41,634
Thanks: 6,231
Thanked 10,304 Times in 6,188 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $3043611
Default

Interesting.
On one hand, I think that we need a launching platform there, and on the other hand, I say just let them deal with their own problems and just sever.
If we totally left, don't you think that potentially valuable Intel will no longer be available?
Or does it not matter.?
Jeff '79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2020, 1:27pm   #4
Nox
A Real Barner
Points: 10,383, Level: 70
Activity: 6.9%
 
Nox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,348
Thanks: 27
Thanked 1,331 Times in 538 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $7601
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
Interesting.
On one hand, I think that we need a launching platform there, and on the other hand, I say just let them deal with their own problems and just sever.
If we totally left, don't you think that potentially valuable Intel will no longer be available?
Or does it not matter.?
We already have the most valuable intel in our possession. Someone in the know once told me that we should just let all the detainees in Gitmo and other places go. They have all long ago been mined for any useful info they would be willing to divulge. Then just follow them and see where they take us.. if you get the hint.
Nox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2020, 1:30pm   #5
Jeff '79
Barn Stall Owner #2112
Fantasy Football Champ '14,'16,'20
Bantayan Kids '13
Points: 134,911, Level: 100
Activity: 7.6%
 
Jeff '79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WHERE I LAY MY HEAD IS HOME - REHO BEACH DELAWARE
Posts: 41,634
Thanks: 6,231
Thanked 10,304 Times in 6,188 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $3043611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nox View Post
We already have the most valuable intel in our possession. Someone in the know once told me that we should just let all the detainees in Gitmo and other places go. They have all long ago been mined for any useful info they would be willing to divulge. Then just follow them and see where they take us.. if you get the hint.
Yep, I totally get it.

What are the concerns in a Biden admin. ?
Jeff '79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2020, 1:37pm   #6
Nox
A Real Barner
Points: 10,383, Level: 70
Activity: 6.9%
 
Nox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,348
Thanks: 27
Thanked 1,331 Times in 538 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $7601
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
Yep, I totally get it.

What are the concerns in a Biden admin. ?
Let’s start with he got elected.
Nox is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Nox For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 2:15pm   #7
Jeff '79
Barn Stall Owner #2112
Fantasy Football Champ '14,'16,'20
Bantayan Kids '13
Points: 134,911, Level: 100
Activity: 7.6%
 
Jeff '79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WHERE I LAY MY HEAD IS HOME - REHO BEACH DELAWARE
Posts: 41,634
Thanks: 6,231
Thanked 10,304 Times in 6,188 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $3043611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nox View Post
Let’s start with he got elected.
ya, sooooo, he did.
What are the concerns from a military standpoint ?
Jeff '79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2020, 2:22pm   #8
Dixievet
Administrator
Barn Stall Owner #14
Barn Raising II,III Chef

NCM Supporter '11,'12,'13,'14,'15,'16,'17,'20
Bantayan Kids '13,'14,'15,'17
Points: 60,784, Level: 100
Activity: 17.1%
 
Dixievet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: between here and there
Posts: 22,288
Thanks: 7,943
Thanked 11,113 Times in 4,509 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $17601606
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
ya, sooooo, he did.
What are the concerns from a military standpoint ?
More deployments mean more money for politicians
Dixievet is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Dixievet For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 2:28pm   #9
JetMechZ16
A Real Barner
Points: 31,218, Level: 100
Activity: 45.2%
 
JetMechZ16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SouthEast Tn.
Posts: 5,038
Thanks: 1,456
Thanked 5,440 Times in 2,199 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $856744
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
ya, sooooo, he did.
What are the concerns from a military standpoint ?
The majority of military members are not very enthused when there is a Democratic administration in place. Past experience tells us, they'll claim to trim fat from the budgets, while actually cutting to the bone. When carriers can't deploy due to differed maintenance that affects the battle groups ability to perform its mission. Well then you've cut to far.

USS John F. Kennedy was a prime example. Catapults inoperable at the time the ship was to deploy. The Captain was relieved of command due to a loss in his ability to command. When in truth they wouldn't listen to him when he said they could not afford to defer any more maintenance on the ship.
JetMechZ16 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to JetMechZ16 For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 2:42pm   #10
Nox
A Real Barner
Points: 10,383, Level: 70
Activity: 6.9%
 
Nox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,348
Thanks: 27
Thanked 1,331 Times in 538 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $7601
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
ya, sooooo, he did.
What are the concerns from a military standpoint ?
If the Democrats had their way it would not just be “Defund the Police,” it would be “Defund the Military,” and Defund anything that didn’t have to do with social welfare and free medicine and free handouts for one and all. Maybe in a Unicorn Utopia where money grows on trees and gold was like sand on the beach, but the reality is, the money has to come from somewhere.
Nox is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Nox For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 3:34pm   #11
ratflinger
Vette Barn Crew
Points: 7,453, Level: 60
Activity: 7.4%
 
ratflinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 252
Thanks: 87
Thanked 231 Times in 104 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $1322
Default

Yeah, but welfare people gots to have iPhones!
ratflinger is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to ratflinger For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 4:36pm   #12
Jeff '79
Barn Stall Owner #2112
Fantasy Football Champ '14,'16,'20
Bantayan Kids '13
Points: 134,911, Level: 100
Activity: 7.6%
 
Jeff '79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WHERE I LAY MY HEAD IS HOME - REHO BEACH DELAWARE
Posts: 41,634
Thanks: 6,231
Thanked 10,304 Times in 6,188 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $3043611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nox View Post
If the Democrats had their way it would not just be “Defund the Police,” it would be “Defund the Military,” and Defund anything that didn’t have to do with social welfare and free medicine and free handouts for one and all. Maybe in a Unicorn Utopia where money grows on trees and gold was like sand on the beach, but the reality is, the money has to come from somewhere.
Hopefully the GOP can get their house in order before the entire country is ruined. Extreme right tactics will never work, just as extreme left won't.
The Pubs went a bridge too far this go round and lost the election because of it.
Jeff '79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2020, 4:51pm   #13
mrvette
Latin American Goat Roper
Barn Stall Owner #101
Bantayan Kids '13
Points: 89,959, Level: 100
Activity: 31.9%
 
mrvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Orange Park Florida
Posts: 51,179
Thanks: 25,868
Thanked 8,087 Times in 4,385 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $1138393
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
Hopefully the GOP can get their house in order before the entire country is ruined. Extreme right tactics will never work, just as extreme left won't.
The Pubs went a bridge too far this go round and lost the election because of it.
Over a thousand bridges to GO too.....

as for the troops overseas, I think we need back up and come home.....islam gets aggressive.....we bring them down with ICBM's.....fry them.....EVERY capital they have in ALL of islam.....destroy their oil industry and any water source they have......in 6 months the rest of the world can set around some table and draw lines on the map deciding who wants what.....

mrvette is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mrvette For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 4:52pm   #14
VatorMan
A Real Barner
NCM Supporter '11,'13
Bantayan Kids '13,'14,'17
Points: 56,250, Level: 100
Activity: 5.3%
 
VatorMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Gaithersburg, MD.
Posts: 20,479
Thanks: 4,875
Thanked 6,944 Times in 3,649 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $1158963
Default

Shrub Bush started that whole mess invading Iraq and as NOX said, the festering wound Afghanistan. I truly wonder what our national debt would be right now without both of those ? Obama kept pushing when he promised to bring the boys home and close Gitmo He did neither.

Trump is doing what he pledged- even if he might be on his way out. Keeping promises unlike a 50 year .Gov employee that just got elected will EVER do.
VatorMan is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to VatorMan For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 4:58pm   #15
Broken Wind
A Real Barner
Points: 15,895, Level: 86
Activity: 24.1%
 
Broken Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: It's my Indian name
Posts: 3,881
Thanks: 1,445
Thanked 1,656 Times in 750 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $1013854
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
Hopefully the GOP can get their house in order before the entire country is ruined. Extreme right tactics will never work, just as extreme left won't.
The Pubs went a bridge too far this go round and lost the election because of it.
It’s funny AF that you think you have it all figured out.
Broken Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Broken Wind For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 6:10pm   #16
z06psi
Barn Stall Owner #∞
Points: 17,110, Level: 90
Activity: 99.5%
 
z06psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: GFY and STFU'ville
Posts: 7,621
Thanks: 1,096
Thanked 10,994 Times in 4,313 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $34677
Default

YHGTBFKM.
z06psi is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to z06psi For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 6:28pm   #17
z06psi
Barn Stall Owner #∞
Points: 17,110, Level: 90
Activity: 99.5%
 
z06psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: GFY and STFU'ville
Posts: 7,621
Thanks: 1,096
Thanked 10,994 Times in 4,313 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $34677
Default

Launching platform? For what?


This I gotta hear.
z06psi is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to z06psi For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 6:29pm   #18
Rikki Z-06
Barn Stall Owner #747-400
Points: 32,655, Level: 100
Activity: 99.9%
 
Rikki Z-06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: The Bash, Perma
Posts: 52,153
Thanks: 43,979
Thanked 13,978 Times in 6,128 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $15031693
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by z06psi View Post
Launching platform? For what?


This I gotta hear.


Rikki Z-06 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rikki Z-06 For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 6:47pm   #19
RedLS1GTO
C4 Mod
Barn Raising II,III
Points: 46,704, Level: 100
Activity: 1.3%
 
RedLS1GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cincinnati, OH ....ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑBE....
Posts: 12,715
Thanks: 1,175
Thanked 6,764 Times in 3,019 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $19752494
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff '79 View Post
Extreme right tactics will never work, just as extreme left won't.
The Pubs went a bridge too far this go round and lost the election because of it.
Please detail what policies were "extreme right"
RedLS1GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RedLS1GTO For This Useful Post:
Old 11-16-2020, 6:50pm   #20
VITE1
Barn Stall Owner #69
Bantayan Kids '14,'15,'17
GTMS ‘18
Points: 46,776, Level: 100
Activity: 6.9%
 
VITE1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Port Saint Lucie FL
Posts: 32,691
Thanks: 16,495
Thanked 8,846 Times in 4,545 Posts
Gameroom Barn Bucks: $1084134
Default

We spend more on the "War on Poverty" each year than the combined costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. How about ending that massive failure?
VITE1 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to VITE1 For This Useful Post:
Reply

The Vette Barn > Off Topic/Babes/Other > Off Topic


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 9:35am.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 - 2021 The Vette Barn


Support the Barn:
 
Download the Mobile App;
 
Follow us on Facebook:

Become a Stall Owner

 

Apple iOS App        Google Android App

 

Visit our Facebook page