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Old 12-16-2020, 1:20pm   #1
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https://reason.com/2020/12/16/andrew...rst-amendment/

what would they do if you had a Confederate flag on your face mask?

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, signed legislation on Tuesday prohibiting the sale of Confederate flags on public property, including at state and local fairs.

Cuomo was well aware that such legislation is likely to fail a First Amendment test, but this did not deter him.

"This country faces a pervasive, growing attitude of intolerance and hate—what I have referred to in the body politic as an American cancer," he wrote. "By limiting the display and sale of the confederate flag, Nazi swastika and other symbols of hatred from being displayed or sold on state property, including the state fairgrounds, this will help safeguard New Yorkers from the fear-installing effects of these abhorrent symbols."

Cuomo noted that "certain technical changes are necessary" to make sure the ban is compliant with the First Amendment, which protects free expression—including the expression of hateful ideas.

Those changes should probably involve scrapping most of the bill, which is a mess. It prohibits the sale of "symbols of hate," which it defines as "including, but not limited, to symbols of white supremacy, neo-Nazi ideology, or the battle flag of the Confederacy." Keep in mind that we live in a world where some people think the OK hand gesture is a white supremacist signal, and the New York Human Rights Commission has been particularly inclined to over-interpret the government's mandate to ban things. This is not a recipe for restraint.

The bill also exempts museums, books, and "educational purposes" in general, which provides wild interpretive leeway. And the aforementioned fairgrounds provision applies to private actors on public property, which is almost certainly unconstitutional. In 2008, the Supreme Court ruled 8–1 that a notorious hate group, the Westboro Baptist Church, could stand on public property and shout obscenities near the funerals of military service members. There's little question that the First Amendment broadly protects hateful speech on public property.

These very obvious issues—of which Cuomo, by his own admission, is quite aware—should probably have stopped the governor from signing the bill, but alas.

Here's hoping President-elect Joe Biden does not reward Cuomo's abysmal track record on individual liberties with the U.S. attorney general job.
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I'm still not understanding how the Confederate flag is "racist". While it may be not appropriate, I'm not understanding how the swastika is racist also.

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I'm still not understanding how the Confederate flag is "racist". While it may be not appropriate, I'm not understanding how the swastika is racist also.

Duh, anything someone disagrees with is racist, everybody knows that. Try to keep up
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The sooner people realize that there will ALWAYS be somebody out there that hates you, for whatever reason, the faster we can evolve past this nonsense.

People will hate you because your white, black, asian, indian, iranian, iraqi, eskimo, gay, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, have funny hair, a weird face, disabled etc..

Haters exist, they existed in the past and they will exist in the future.


You can't legislate non-hate.
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This is just more of the left wing bull shit.
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Amazing that people know it fails the 1st amendment rights, but pass it anyway to portray themselves as "woke"

Just stupid.
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The sooner people realize that there will ALWAYS be somebody out there that hates you, for whatever reason, the faster we can evolve past this nonsense.

People will hate you because your white, black, asian, indian, iranian, iraqi, eskimo, gay, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, have funny hair, a weird face, disabled etc..

Haters exist, they existed in the past and they will exist in the future.


You can't legislate non-hate.
True,but it doesn't stop them from trying.
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The sooner people realize that there will ALWAYS be somebody out there that hates you, for whatever reason, the faster we can evolve past this nonsense.

People will hate you because your white, black, asian, indian, iranian, iraqi, eskimo, gay, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, have funny hair, a weird face, disabled etc..

Haters exist, they existed in the past and they will exist in the future.


You can't legislate non-hate.
Problem is, we are not going to evolve out of it. We are going to continue to devolve until there is chaos. That is what they want, because the powers that be want total control.
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Words hurt feelers.

Symbols hurt feelers.

Orange man hurt feelers.


Starting to see a pattern?
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Problem is, we are not going to evolve out of it. We are going to continue to devolve until there is chaos. That is what they want, because the powers that be want total control.
Just makes those offended easier to pick out and off when the time comes.
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This is the part democrats love to erase, their own creation.

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"This country faces a pervasive, growing attitude of intolerance and hate—what I have referred to in the body politic as an American cancer,"
Why, yes...yes it is. Too bad Cuomo Jr. doesn't want to acknowledge that it's coming from his own party.
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The only symbulls I'd like to see banned from this earth are the commie flags and the nazi flag......

they really are the same thing, just a different 'leader' associated with them.....

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I was takin' a trip out to LA
Toolin' along in my Chevrolet
Tokin' on a number and diggin' on the radio
Jes' as I cross the Mississippi line
I heard that highway start to whine
And I knew that left rear tire was about to go
Well the spare was flat and I got uptight
'Cause there wasn't a fillin' station in sight
So I jes' limped down the shoulder on the rim
I went as far as I could and when I stopped the car
It was right in front of this little bar
A kind of a redneck lookin' joint called the Dew Drop Inn
Well I stuffed my hair up under my hat
And told the bartender that I had a flat
And would he be kind enough to give me change for a one
There was one thing I was sure proud to see
There wasn't a soul in the place 'cept for him an' me
And he just looked disgusted an' pointed toward the telephone
I called up the station down the road a ways
And he said he wasn't very busy t'day
And he could have somebody there in jest 'bout ten minutes or so
He said now you jes' stay right where yer at and I didn't bother
Tellin' the durn fool
I sure as hell didn't have anyplace else to go
I just ordered up a beer and sat down at the bar
When some guy walked in an' said who owns this car
With the peace sign the mag wheels and four on the floor
Well he looked at me and I damn near died
And I decided that I'd jus wait outside
So I layed a dollar on the bar and headed for the door
Jes' when I thought I'd get outta there with my skin
These five big dude come strollin' in
With this one old drunk chick and some fella with green teeth
An' I was almost to the door when the biggest one
Said you tip your hat to this lady son
An' when I did all that hair fell out from underneath
Now the last thing I wanted was to get into a fight
In Jackson Mississippi on a Saturday night
'Specially when there was three of them and only one of me
Well they all started laughin' and I felt kinda sick
And I knew I'd better think of somethin' pretty quick
So I jes' reached out an' kicked ol' green-teeth right in the knee
He let out a yell that'd curl your hair
But before he could move I grabbed me a chair
And said watch him folks 'cause he's a thouroughly dangerous man
Well you may not know it but this man's a spy
He's an undercover agent for the FBI
And he's been sent down here to infiltrate the Ku Klux Klan
He was still bent over holdin' on to his knee
But everyone else was lookin' and listenin' to me
And I layed it on thicker and heavier as I went
I said would you beleive this man has gone as far
As tearin' Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars
And he voted for George McGoveren for president
Well he's a friend of them long-haired hippie type pinko fags
I betcha Gene's even got a Commie flag
Tacked up on the wall inside of his garage
He's a snake in the grass I tell ya guys
He may look dumb but that's jus a disguise
He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage
They all started lookin' real suspicious at him
And he jumped up an' said jes' wait a minute Jim
You know he's lyin' I've been livin' here all of my life
I'm a faithfull follower of Brother John Burch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church
And I ain't even got a garage you can call home and ask my wife
Then he started sayin' somethin' 'bout the way I was dressed
But I didn't wait around to hear the rest
I was too busy movin' and hopin' I didn't run outta luck
And when I hit the ground I was makin' tracks
And they were jes' takin' my car down off the jacks
So I threw the man a twenty an' jumped in an' fired that mother up
Mario Andretti woulda sure been proud
Of the way I was movin' when I passed that crowd
Comin' out the door and headin' toward me in a trot
An' I guess I shoulda gone ahead an' run
But somehow I couldn't resist the fun
Of chasin' them jes' once around the parkin' lot
Well they're headin' for their car but I hit the gas
And spun around and headed them off at the pass
Well I was slingin' gravel and puttin' a ton of dust in the air
Well I had them all out there steppin' an' a fetchin'
Like their heads were on fire and their asses was catchin'
But I figured I oughta go ahead an split before the cops got there
When I hit the road I was really wheelin'
Had gravel flyin' and rubber squeelin'
An' I didn't slow down 'til I was almost to Arkansas
I think I'm gonna re-route my trip
I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped
If I went to LA via Omaha!

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Problem is, we are not going to evolve out of it. We are going to continue to devolve until there is chaos. That is what they want, because the powers that be want total control.
Agree, for the most part.

The bigger problem, as I see it, is that an exponentially large percentage of our population have absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever. They live in a realm of victimhood, where it's easier and more socially acceptable to blame others, instead of taking personal responsibility and accountability into consideration...

The culture of instant gratification....
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