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Old 05-31-2023, 1:09pm   #1
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Default Fireproof, water resistant safes

Looking to store important documents and metals.
Reviews are all over the place but hard to separate consumer grade crap from the good stuff.

I'm looking at the 8-10 cubic feet range.
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https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...-safe-ts-36-45

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They make solid gun safes but only rated for 45 mins at 1400 which is pretty good, but paper burns at 440F
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Several layers of drywall is fire proof.
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I have a large 1500# box its reasonably fire,water and burglar resistant

OP, For very important papers get a smaller box that you can put inside of a big box and you should have all the fire and water protection you need! That's what my son does!
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They make solid gun safes but only rated for 45 mins at 1400 which is pretty good, but paper burns at Fahrenheit 451
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Yup, I use the smallish fire rated safe inside a larger fire rated safe trick. I reckon paper should survive fire without a problem.

Not likely waterproof but I don't think water will affect titles and registrations much. Might be a problem for some receipts but then they fade on their own over time. For sure the money will be OK, have seen that go through the washing machine without a problem.
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Yup, I use the smallish fire rated safe inside a larger fire rated safe trick. I reckon paper should survive fire without a problem.

Not likely waterproof but I don't think water will affect titles and registrations much. Might be a problem for some receipts but then they fade on their own over time. For sure the money will be OK, have seen that go through the washing machine without a problem.
Yep. Box in a box for papers.

I selected the one below from Scheel's. It's the Liberty Colonial line, with Scheel's markings, $200 cheaper than Liberty is selling them. If you order from Liberty, You can get one configured either as a gun safe, or home safe. 75minutes at 1200F.
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I was trying to remember the book title when I was pondering what temp paper burns at.
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Never thought about the box within a box concept. I could get a larger safe and put all the goods in there.
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We use fireking products at work, not cheap or light, but very well made https://www.fireking.com/shop/
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Here ya go....Liberty makes a good product.


https://www.libertysafe.com/collections/gun-safes
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My inner safe has ~1 square foot internal capacity. Thick/solid metal is the basis for the fire resistance. This thing weighs 100 pounds.

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Here ya go....Liberty makes a good product.

https://www.libertysafe.com/collections/gun-safes
I've not been disappointed by my Lincoln.
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Noice. My price inflection came a couple levels of protection below that. What made you go almost full Monty on fire protection?
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Noice. My price inflection came a couple levels of protection below that. What made you go almost full Monty on fire protection?
My Lincoln is twenty years old. Got a great deal on it, about $1 per pound as I recall. Wouldn't want to buy a safe at the prices I see advertised these days.

Didn't pay much attention to fire rating when I got the Lincoln. Main purpose was theft protection for a few dozen firearms. Not long after I got the Gardall for the added fire protection due to not having a wife burn through my cash after the kids grew up/moved out. Simply found out what a good thing it is to not have money disappear and took that step with the hope of preventing it in the future.
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https://www.libertysafe.com/collections/gun-safes
James, good to hear from you mofo
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Speaking of money disappearing -

publishing ceo left with almost nothing after wife drains accounts
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