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Huskies are considered one of the friendliest dogs around.. Yet are close to top of bites reported.
I've seen every extreme of GSD already. 100% friendly, bite you when walk away cowards to straight up pycho(much like women now that i think about it... ) Every animal is different, I have more scars from smaller dogs than big dogs from mistakenly thinking they were just little cuties. |
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This comment reminds me of a conversation I had just today! We have a turtle that’s been in the family for something like 55 years now. After feeding it, and cleaning it washing its tank, the sumbitch will still bite you! I told my wife it’s just like her! lol 😂 |
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Furthermore, this notion that breeders suck simply shows ignorance. None of my litters sucked, none of my dogs sucked. I lost some prematurely, we ALL have. You can't hang that on a breeder. There's a hospital full of children with cancer 20 miles from me. The parents sucked right? |
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About a year later, a neighbor was exiting our back yard, and Belle snuck out when the gate was open and started to run up the street. I simply stood in the front yard, and called her. She stopped, and looked at me, and I said "Belle, come NOW!!!" but I never left our front yard. She came. She has never done that again. The lesson for the human here is, even though she misbehaved when she ran away in the neighborhood, I still didn't discipline her at all, because even though I had to call her twice, she did come when she was called. Quote:
For basically her whole adult life, she has not been out in the yard without me or another adult human there supervising. The reasons for this are primarily that left alone, she would eat all kinds of crap in the yard, and I have had neighbors who were complete assholes. |
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Noki ran off one time about a year after we got him, it was rabbits or the hunting dogs roaming behind us. I went to look for him (heavy woods) and after 20 minutes.. Uh oh sunset. Crap. He found me a few minutes later and took us both home. He did bolt a few times but could be stopped vocally, usually after he ran a neighbor dog back to their property he'd turn back.
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A trained GSD of normal temperament will not suddenly bite anyone. A GSD with poor training and/or weak temperament (fearful, aggressive, unpredictable, etc.) will bite. A normal GSD can tell if someone is "off" or means harm and who is not a threat. They know what babies are. They are nothing like dobermans (which also look ****in' killer!) in terms of their ability to think. |
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So every Tom, Richard and Harry bred anything that looked like a GSD forever ****ing up the genetics of American Show Line dogs. This means lots of problems. Add to this extreme poor or non-existant training and you have a dangerous biting machine. Add mental instability - fear biting for example - and you have a big ****ing problem to dump off at the shelter. Therefore, there are lots of stories about GSDs - with some degree of truth - they do get hip dysplasia but lots of dogs get hip dysplasia. They get bloat - also the leading cause of death among Great Danes. They get cancer - like all dogs - all of this is due to poor breeding practices. In Germany, this didn't happen. The strict rules of the SV produces pretty consistent dogs. They can still go nuts or have problems - but the SV won't let you breed them. It's also Germany's national dog or some shit so there is a level of pride that is a factor. Here we save every puppy. There they cull bad genetic traits. Every breeder we have bought pet quality dogs from required us by contract to neuter or spay so the faults would not get passed on. Quote:
Serious breeders produce genetically consistent dogs. They catch faults and cull when necessary. HOWEVER, you are right. Shit happens. Levi - cancer Django - bloat (survived) then DM CJ - Hips and autoimmune Hanna - DM Hiro - bloat (died) Ranger - autoimmune disease (wasting disease) All from very established and well known in the industry breeders. All American lines. In fact, Ranger's entire litter died including the mother within 18 months. They all had essentially K9 Crohn's - wasting disease (there is a name - I'm blanking on it). the breeder was devastated. (Hanna and Ranger from him - but different litters years apart). He quit breeding dogs after a lifetime of producing champions - he never had an issue before. |
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Interesting and informative thank you.
Alot of those traits Noki had except the jumping thing. He couldn't jump for shit, well except that one time we were playing and he jumped into my arms.. About killed both of us. Full speed and jumped. I didn't walk right for weeks. His traits were what led me to looking into a GSD. The velcro thing was very strong with my wife, he would circle her. I'm getting more reading material and may have more questions later. Thanks again. I absolutely want to be informed and prepared as possible. |
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I'll share a funny(not funny) story in this thread. About seven years ago I found myself helping the Minneapolis Police Department procure bullet proof vests for their K9 officers. How that happened is another story but I all started because of my dog hobby and connections I made there. Anyway, we had arranged for the MPD to come to the school I worked at. They supplied the dogs, we'd supply the dog clubs. Piece of cake right? Wrong. The officer was standing in front of a -unbeknownst to him- room full of breeders giving his little spiel which included the fact they went across the pond for their dogs. "Better dogs" or some such thing. As you can imagine, the room was insulted and proceeded to pepper him with questions. He admitted he'd never whelped a litter in his entire life yet here he was throwing around terms like in-breeding, line-breeding, and cross-breeding with absolutely NO concept as to what those concepts are. FWIW. The top winning show dog of all time was a German Shepherd named CH Altana's Mystique. Owned by Jane Firestone and handled by Jimmy Moses. Yes, THAT Firestone. Damn dog had his own jet. |
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Been about 20 years now. Our neighbor down the street had just moved in. He was a young cop about 30 and just finished 10 years in the Army. He was a Dog Handler/MP. After his probation was up from the academy, he was able to get into that field again.
We were good friends and I helped him set up a concrete and fence company and we built a nice place for the dog in his back yard. One weekend at the local mall, the police set up a recruiting show with all the stuff they had and my neighbor was there with his dog. I was at his table. his dog knew me well and people were stopping by and the dog was friendly and calm. Other officers were stopping by and just great interaction with everyone. Well, 3 mounted horse patrol officers came walking by wearing cowboy hats and the dog went fkn nuts. My buddy had to put him in the truck for a time out. Someone in the crowd said, "I guess he doesn't like rednecks." |
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Here is the secret to success. If you can make it through the first 18 months, you are golden. But GSDs will try your patience and sanity until they reach adolescence. It’s not just that they are smart. They ****ing see and hear EVERYTHING. Combine with a natural inclination to move up in pack status (GSDs will exploit any weaknesses they find in dogs or humans to increase dominance). For example, if you act afraid with Shadow, he will bark at you in his “I’m the ****ing king” voice. But if you just go in for the pettin’ you are his new best friend. He has almost zero aggression. However if you or your dog acts aggressively towards us or if you scale my fence uninvited, he is VERY aggressive. It’s like they have a good/evil switch and they know what’s up. At the same time a baby can sit on the dog and pull whiskers out one at a time (yes, my son) and the dog (huge male) just laid there and took it because if he got up, he would knock the baby over. |
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Puppies are a pain in the ass and expensive. And covered in their own shit. |
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I could never of let my wife take Noki to work.. If someone acted badly or got an attitude towards her, he wouldn't have taken it well. He was so honed in on us it was scary sometimes. I've had people approach us at gas stations on trips to "pet the cute puppy" and he was sensing something about them and had to shoo them away. He almost never barked... Didn't bark for months at first, scared the hell out of me when he did the first time. Some young guy was in woods behind us marking trees and not making much noise. Rule #1 around here was if Noki barked you'd better check and now. Well unless mom had a bowl of ice cream and he'd bark at her, never anyone else though. |
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Had a Shepard mix in the 90s when my daughter was young, an incredible pet. Barked visciouslly at strangers (and UPS trucks for some strange reason) but was gentle as all hell in reality. An outside dog and never even got a flea or tick in 14 years; hips finally went out and tumors started appearing. I still get a bit choked up reflecting on our precious time with her.
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