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Old 04-23-2024, 12:11pm   #1
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Can't make this shit up. A Dem Senator in CA has introduced a bill to outlaw Clear in TSA lines because it "creates a “basic equity issue” that lets wealthier travelers bypass long security lines for a $189/year subscription. It’s about dignity in the travel experience of people who don’t have money to pay for upsell services,” Newman said.

How in the f**k do people living there possibly support this kind of idiocy?

California bill aims to ban Clear from airport security lines
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Glad I don't fly at all anymore. Out of anywhere.
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Old 04-23-2024, 12:17pm   #3
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Glad I don't fly at all anymore. Out of anywhere.
I fly a lot less for business than I used to and I have a list of personal No Fly airports. All airports in CA and NYC are on it, along with a few others like Newark.
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Can't make this shit up. A Dem Senator in CA has introduced a bill to outlaw Clear in TSA lines because it "creates a “basic equity issue” that lets wealthier travelers bypass long security lines for a $189/year subscription. It’s about dignity in the travel experience of people who don’t have money to pay for upsell services,” Newman said.

How in the f**k do people living there possibly support this kind of idiocy?

California bill aims to ban Clear from airport security lines
I actually agree with this. Make EVERYONE suffer your bullshit policies equally. Same thing with HOV/toll lanes. Stop wasting money to make separate lanes that cost more money to build and just build more lanes for everyone.

I would say that the TSA ought to treat politicians they recognize JUST like they do the regular public. Disdain, inappropriate touching, etc. Let our overlords understand the way they have normal citizens treated.
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I actually agree with this. Make EVERYONE suffer your bullshit policies equally. Same thing with HOV/toll lanes. Stop wasting money to make separate lanes that cost more money to build and just build more lanes for everyone.
Clear lanes don't cost anything to "build" like HOV/toll lanes do.
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Can't make this shit up. A Dem Senator in CA has introduced a bill to outlaw Clear in TSA lines because it "creates a “basic equity issue” that lets wealthier travelers bypass long security lines for a $189/year subscription.
So this dipshit wants to ban Clear but not TSA PreCheck? I guess $70/5 years falls under the threshold of "affordability."

I wonder if Senator Dumbass has a FasTrak transponder and drives in any "Lexus Lanes" on his way to work?

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We don't.
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Easy solution... Let Cali pay for it for anyone who wants it.
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So this dipshit wants to ban Clear but not TSA PreCheck? I guess $70/5 years falls under the threshold of "affordability."
Clear is a private for-profit company, therefore evil. Government must "fix" it. TSA is government so CA can't tell them what to do or not do; they would if they could.
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Can't make this shit up. A Dem Senator in CA has introduced a bill to outlaw Clear in TSA lines because it "creates a “basic equity issue” that lets wealthier travelers bypass long security lines for a $189/year subscription. It’s about dignity in the travel experience of people who don’t have money to pay for upsell services,” Newman said.

How in the f**k do people living there possibly support this kind of idiocy?

California bill aims to ban Clear from airport security lines
After facilitating illegal immigration, the socialists second priority is to grow gov jobs by the billions, this is why the tsa clear does not work, it would justify less tsa idiots--only justifies, would not lessen the tsa workforce, as feds will hire more AND more everyday.

Look at all gov entities, fed & state & county & local, all are booming regarding new hires and retention.

It will not end, as a cornerstone of socialism is to grow the gov far beyond its need, pay them above average wages, free benefits, and be the last provider of pensions.
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I actually agree with this. Make EVERYONE suffer your bullshit policies equally. Same thing with HOV/toll lanes. Stop wasting money to make separate lanes that cost more money to build and just build more lanes for everyone.

I would say that the TSA ought to treat politicians they recognize JUST like they do the regular public. Disdain, inappropriate touching, etc. Let our overlords understand the way they have normal citizens treated.
Make sure the politicians have to go through the same checks and lines as everyone else, too. Absolutely no special treatment except for the cavity searches when they get reamed out more than everyone else.
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Clear is a private for-profit company, therefore evil. Government must "fix" it. TSA is government so CA can't tell them what to do or not do; they would if they could.
How are they funded? Is it entirely from subscribers' $ 189 membership fees? Do they pay rent at the airports for the space they occupy, like restaurants, news stands, and the shoe shine guys have to pay? Is the government funding them either directly, or indirectly, via direct payments, or via not charging them to be in the airports?

Serious questions, I can't seem to find out anything about this on their site.
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Make sure the politicians have to go through the same checks and lines as everyone else, too. Absolutely no special treatment except for the cavity searches when they get reamed out more than everyone else.
They famously detained and tried to grope Rand Paul. I bet they only target conservative politicians, though.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...as-a-detention

https://news.yahoo.com/news/rand-pau...202417205.html
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They famously groped Rand Paul. I bet they only target conservative politicians, though.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...as-a-detention

https://news.yahoo.com/news/rand-pau...202417205.html
I don't care which politicians they grope as long as the politicians are severely inconvenienced and ****ed over just as bad or even worse than the rest of us.
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Easy solution... Let Cali pay for it for anyone who wants it.
I'm honestly surprised that hasn't been proposed.
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Old 04-23-2024, 12:58pm   #15
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How are they funded? Is it entirely from subscribers' $ 189 membership fees? Do they pay rent at the airports for the space they occupy, like restaurants, news stands, and the shoe shine guys have to pay? Is the government funding them either directly, or indirectly, via direct payments, or via not charging them to be in the airports?

Serious questions, I can't seem to find out anything about this on their site.
Clear is entirely funded by subscribers. It's basically a fast and secure ID verification process, which you can have with or without TSA Precheck. I don't know if they pay for the small space they use at airports, but they provide the equipment and personnel they use at their expense.

TSA Precheck and Global Entry are services from the .gov that cost extra, but are probably subsidized by the .gov since they're not very efficient at providing such things.
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Next they'll ban first class, owning luxury or sports cars, and any IQ over 90. All for 'equality'.

****ing insidious evil ****S. FJB!!
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Next they'll ban first class, owning luxury or sports cars, and any IQ over 90. All for 'equality'.

****ing insidious evil ****S. FJB!!


Yup - its coming! In Canada, there's a ****ing luxury tax on any car/plane/boat over $100K, that is indexed to the increasing cost of the vehicle. Why? Because the "rich" need to pay their fair share of taxes! Last time I checked, the tax should be applied according to the item at the same rate, not an increasing rate as the item's cost increases. ****ing communist COCKSUCKERS!

The only saving grace is that it only applies to new (up to 3 years old) vehicles, so since I love buying used, I haven't been subjected to it.
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I actually agree with this. Make EVERYONE suffer your bullshit policies equally. Same thing with HOV/toll lanes. Stop wasting money to make separate lanes that cost more money to build and just build more lanes for everyone.
Nah. I worked hard for my status in life, and it's so nice to cruise by all the plebes in the overcrowded commoner lanes.
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That’s been absent from the airline industry for a long time.
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I actually agree with this. Make EVERYONE suffer your bullshit policies equally. Same thing with HOV/toll lanes. Stop wasting money to make separate lanes that cost more money to build and just build more lanes for everyone.

I would say that the TSA ought to treat politicians they recognize JUST like they do the regular public. Disdain, inappropriate touching, etc. Let our overlords understand the way they have normal citizens treated.
That will never happen, in the foreseeable future anyway. The TSA paychecks and bennies depends on the politicians. They are the ruling class and they're not even trying to hide it anymore. They're "in our faces" with the raw power, and more to come.

As Christina Pushaw (DeSantis employee) said a few years ago about Dem politicians and what they do and say: "It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy."

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