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Old 04-03-2020, 7:27pm   #21
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Well. My evening took a different spin. Literally.

My two year old daughter took off in my golf cart with her brothers on the back seat and I about had a heart attack.
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https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/03/zo...-routed-china/

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/03/...hers-discover/

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/3/21...pranks-doj-fbi

But the Chicoms aren't even involved at all with Zoom I'm sure.
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C'mon man. The Chinese Communists have the US Constitution and it's efforts always in mind when business and politics are concerned.
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C'mon man. The Chinese Communists have the US Constitution and it's efforts always in mind when business and politics are concerned.
Look fat, I was a coal miner in Wisconsin when the rebels took over the Tim Hortons. Let's go behind the building and I'll pulverize you with my fisticuffs!
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Look fat, I was a coal miner in Wisconsin when the rebels took over the Tim Hortons. Let's go behind the building and I'll pulverize you with my fisticuffs!
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https://www.techradar.com/news/skype...om-alternative
Skype has brought in a new type of video call whereby no one has to sign up for an account to join the chat, in a similar convenient vein to Zoom – except in the case of Skype, not even the host needs to sign up for the service, or install anything.

Skype describes the new Meet Now feature as a “hassle-free way to connect” with other folks that doesn’t require signing up to any account, or downloading any software. You can simply head over to a web page and start a meeting in a few clicks directly from there, inviting anyone you wish, who can then subsequently join just as easily.

New Facebook Messenger app is another alternative to Zoom
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How to use Skype
For those who do have the Skype client already installed, you can start the meeting from within the software if you prefer, and obviously easily invite your existing Skype contacts, or equally those who don’t have the program installed.
The meeting link doesn’t expire, and the video call isn’t limited in terms of the functionality available. You get in-line chat and reactions, and the ability to blur the background (if you haven’t had time to tidy up your study at home before a meeting, for example). You can also share your screen for work or instructional purposes, and even record the call if you wish (recordings are stored for a period of 30 days).

If you want to fire up a Meet Now session in your browser, head here, or in your Skype client, click the Meet Now button (next to New Chat) in the left-hand sidebar.

Zoom and gloom
As you’ve doubtless seen, Zoom has experienced a massive surge in user numbers due to the coronavirus lockdown, and folks staying – or working – from home taking advantage of how easy it is to set up meetings with the video conferencing service.

However, this spike in usage has cast a harsh spotlight on Zoom’s security, with a lot of worries and question marks over how tight it may be, with various flaws in Mac and Windows security having recently been highlighted.

For its part, Zoom has said it’s freezing any product development to focus on tightening up security, with a comprehensive review planned – and its entire engineering team will be working on this.

To compound Zoom’s misery, however, it seems like the service’s infrastructure is groaning under the weight of all these new users too, as we have recently seen outages in Europe and the US.

So Zoom is struggling to juggle a lot of balls in terms of maintaining service right now, perhaps while applying updates as per the engineering team’s instructions, and it seems that Skype wants to capitalize on this by trying to tempt users away from its rival with a similarly easy-to-use and convenient video call offering.
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Is it possible that someone is hacking into our virtual bible study? Oh the humanity.
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Old 04-04-2020, 11:49am   #28
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We have been using MicroSoft Teams exclusively at work for all meetings. We have one in person meeting a day, our daily management systems meeting. We keep less than 8 people in a large room to update the plant status. Our main plant DMS is held over Teams, our staff meetings on teams. We did our first Equipment Reliability Team meeting on Teams Friday. It started out a little quirky but has gotten better as we are learning to use it better. We are even getting good at sharing a desktop and different documents throughout the meeting. The big test is next week when I push our planners to do a virtual planning meeting with all the asset owners. Should be fun.
I also use teams to hold a daily meeting with my staff who are working remotely from home. Pretty stable and good so far.
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Well. My evening took a different spin. Literally.

My two year old daughter took off in my golf cart with her brothers on the back seat and I about had a heart attack.
Horee chit.
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Old 04-04-2020, 2:52pm   #30
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Ok. Keep your head firmly sanded.

I mean if there was a story that literally proved the CCP was using Zoom to spy, I’m pretty sure EVEN THEN people would say “Well that’s not proof they are doing it nefariously.” Reading between the lines is not for everyone but I’d at least hope our defense contractors would be more discerning.
If you had any concept of the cybersecurity regulations we operate under you'd know how anything we buy or use is thoroughly vetted. If there were anything at all to your allegations we'd know about it.

Be sure to keep that tinfoil hat strapped down nice and tight, mmmkay?
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But the Chicoms aren't even involved at all with Zoom I'm sure.
Hey, did you know that iPhones are manufactured in China? I bet every single one of them is spying for the CCP.
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Old 04-04-2020, 3:52pm   #32
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If you had any concept of the cybersecurity regulations we operate under you'd know how anything we buy or use is thoroughly vetted. If there were anything at all to your allegations we'd know about it.

Be sure to keep that tinfoil hat strapped down nice and tight, mmmkay?
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Old 04-04-2020, 3:58pm   #33
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Hey, did you know that iPhones are manufactured in China? I bet every single one of them is spying for the CCP.
Wouldn't surprise me.
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The only problem that Zoom had is that it was developed as a kid's "play" app. It was never intended to be a business, or even adult app therefore there was little attempt to put security in place. Recently, after criticism of the lack of security features, Zoom has hired people and is putting robust security measures in place. Just another example of adults gloming onto a kid's software.
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None of those links back up you claim that Zoom is spying for the CCP.
The story on our local news last week was that all zoom video is funneled through China...accidentally OF COURSE.
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If you had any concept of the cybersecurity regulations we operate under you'd know how anything we buy or use is thoroughly vetted. If there were anything at all to your allegations we'd know about it.

Be sure to keep that tinfoil hat strapped down nice and tight, mmmkay?

Took .49 seconds to get over 72000 hits on "Zoom video funneled through China"
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Well now, China would think it hit the jackpot with the info they could glean from this crew!
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Hey, did you know that iPhones are manufactured in China? I bet every single one of them is spying for the CCP.
Ah, you are still thinking Zoom is secure and fine, even after the US military has banned its use? Even after countless other businesses have done the same. Even after documented security flaws that allow all sorts of exploits, from running code on your devices to sending unencrypted meeting video and audio streams to Chinese servers, you are still doubling down?

iPhones manufactured in China have one thing that Huawei phones don't have - non-Chinese made firmware and networking chips. Which is why the US has banned Huawei from selling phones here.
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