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Old 01-27-2021, 10:44am   #21
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So the bolts pulled out of the block and the result was a leaking head gasket?
Yep... 97 was the worst year statically from unscientific poll.
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So the bolts pulled out of the block and the result was a leaking head gasket?
I worked at Harvey Cadillac as a tech and 1 person did all of them, full time job.
I believe that it took 2 days each
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I worked at Harvey Cadillac as a tech and 1 person did all of them, full time job.
I believe that it took 2 days each
So maybe $500.00 in parts and $1600.00 in labor give or take?
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I worked at Harvey Cadillac as a tech and 1 person did all of them, full time job.
I believe that it took 2 days each
Not sure what book time is but that's about right. Took me a long time as had to order parts on the 98. Dropping the cradle the easy part.
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I helped a co-worker fix his brakes in our parking lot and they looked like this.
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No no, Sputters-N-Stalls is what the mechanic hears as his customers try to drive away as he waves goodbye.

See that? I spelt "goodbye" correctly.
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Not sure what book time is but that's about right. Took me a long time as had to order parts on the 98. Dropping the cradle the easy part.
He pulled it out the top, had it out before noon
Tore it down to like the pic shows
It was all coming off anyways, said it took 8 hours off from the repair time
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So maybe $500.00 in parts and $1600.00 in labor give or take?
It was warranty but customer pay would be more like $4000
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So maybe $500.00 in parts and $1600.00 in labor give or take?
Throw a few hundred on both if dealer work, 2500 usually.

I did the last one for about 1k total but I replaced a bunch of stuff besides HG.
Guy that sells studs gets over 700 just for studs IIRC. Ouch....
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I worked in quality for 35 years. The company I worked for is a supplier to automotive. 1 problem I have seen through the years is that many of the design engineers have no concept of how to produce a part they designed. Many times we would get prints and have go back to the customer and tell them this can't be done in a stamping operation. I did notice in the last several years our manufacturing was getting involved in customer design so that the part can be manufactured
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No no, Sputters-N-Stalls is what the mechanic hears as his customers try to drive away as he waves goodbye.

See that? I spelt "goodbye" correctly.
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Hey, I are one....
Me too! A genuine "rocket scientist" no less!

Fortunately a lot of my technical years was a tech on various ships, figuring out how to make things work.
Then I got my engineering degree, but spent most of my time working on the assembly or test floor. Learned a lot of DFMA as well.

I'm NOT one of "those engineers"! Field test and engineering was my forte, especially for new development products (gun systems and missiles).
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If you design everything from your desk without actually doing a little field review work I'd be dragging you by the ear too. AND NO!!!! The 3d model does not suffice!
The LPD 17 project had a several month delay in that it was completely designed by CAD. Upon seeing the real thing, someone noticed that the well door operator could not see the safety lights from the console, since there was a huge ventilation shaft in the way.
Among other things...

The INSURV inspection message took 3 individual messages because the number of infractions was longer than the "REMARKS" section allowed, twice! (and that's LOTS of allowed characters in that field...)

The new LCS's are no better. I'm SOOOOO glad I'm not active duty anymore, no way would I take orders to go on ANY of these ships!
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I could describe about a million screw ups from the arm chair designers. The last ship was a DDG, built well but with a bunch of items you would look at and think how the hell did they design that.
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I worked in quality for 35 years. The company I worked for is a supplier to automotive. 1 problem I have seen through the years is that many of the design engineers have no concept of how to produce a part they designed. Many times we would get prints and have go back to the customer and tell them this can't be done in a stamping operation. I did notice in the last several years our manufacturing was getting involved in customer design so that the part can be manufactured
Best engineer I ever worked with / under was Claire Miller. Claire put himself thru college working in a machine shop at night.

I worked with him for 12 years before he retired and I could count all the mistakes he made on one hand with fingers left over.
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Northstar engine, not as bad as you'd think. They seldom go bad since warm and dry location.
Beats laying on back under oily engine dropping exhaust for sure.
Now the crossover gaskets are a total bitch to change at 3 hrs plus.
Head gasket will fail long before the starter anyway..
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