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Old 11-16-2016, 6:22am   #1
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Default Sen. Barbara Boxer to introduce bill to end the Electoral College

Surprised it took this long. Hmmmm, and a Dem too.




Sen. Barbara Boxer to introduce bill to end the Electoral College

Sen. Barbara Boxer to introduce bill to end the Electoral College | FOX2now.com

WASHINGTON - Retiring Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer, who was an outspoken supporter of Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election, is set to introduce a Senate bill that aims to end the Electoral College.

Boxer announced in a statement on Tuesday that the bill, which she planned to introduce later Tuesday afternoon, would determine the winner of presidential elections by the outcome of the popular vote.

She cited President-elect Donald Trump's victory in the Electoral College despite Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's apparent popular vote advantage.

"In my lifetime, I have seen two elections where the winner of the general election did not win the popular vote," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

"In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted, 'The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy,' " Boxer added. "I couldn't agree more. One person, one vote!"

According to CNN's election results as of Tuesday, Clinton won 61,329,657 votes and Trump won 60,530,867.

This is the fifth time in history that a nominee has won the popular vote but not the Electoral College. The same situation happened to Al Gore in 2000, when he lost to George W. Bush.

The actual likelihood of Boxer's bill passing is low. It's a proposed constitutional amendment, which would require passage not only by two-thirds majorities in the House and Senate, but then in three-quarters of states. A lame duck session and a Republican Congress will make it difficult to get such a bill through the legislative branch.

On Tuesday, Trump praised the Electoral College after previously criticizing the system. He said he could have won the popular vote if he campaigned differently.

Trump tweeted he would have won the populous states of Florida, New York and California if he had spent more time campaigning there.
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Old 11-16-2016, 6:35am   #2
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I have a better idea. Let's have a Constitutional convention and fix the problems in there. We go to the popular vote and we get to remove the "General Welfare" nonsense so we can end all means tested entitlements along with term limits?
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Old 11-16-2016, 8:34am   #3
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A popular vote would put an end to our country in 25 years.
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According to CNN's election results as of Tuesday, Clinton won 61,329,657 votes and Trump won 60,530,867.
1.00 - ( 60530867 / 61329657 ) = 0.013

So that's 1.3 percent. Not exactly a landslide.

The EC has done exactly what it was designed to do. It is not a party-specific tool. It is a fairness tool. It levels the playing field.
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A popular vote would put an end to our country in 25 years.
I'd give it a little longer but yeah, it would do us in.
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Old 11-16-2016, 8:49am   #6
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That bill will get the traction it deserves.
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Too much corruption for a popular/citizen vote to be accurate.

dead voters
illegal voters
criminal voters
voter intimidation
rigged voting machines
corrupt election officials
multiple individual voting
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Anyone want to take a bet as to whether or not the esteemed Ms. Boxer would have introduced such a bill had things happened the other way around?

Let's spend our time introducing useless legislation that we know won't pass as opposed to fixing the country.
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Anyone want to take a bet as to whether or not the esteemed Ms. Boxer would have introduced such a bill had things happened the other way around?

Let's spend our time introducing useless legislation that we know won't pass as opposed to fixing the country.
Dem's are still in tantrum mode.
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Dem's are still in tantrum mode.


Dems had better wake the hell up. In two years, a lot of them are up for re-election in states that Trump won. If they're not careful, they'll wind up giving Trump a Supermajority.
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Won't happen

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Dems had better wake the hell up. In two years, a lot of them are up for re-election in states that Trump won. If they're not careful, they'll wind up giving Trump a Supermajority.
I don't see that as a bad thing.
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FWIW, I think the correct numbers are 61,781,982 votes for Clinton and 60,834,398 votes for Trump. That's 47.9% and 47.2% respectively.
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I don't see that as a bad thing.
Yes, let's not advertise it....
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I love this!!!!
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Wouldn't you laugh like hell if they did away with it and Trump gets re-elected by popular vote but would have lost the EC ?

DOH !!!!!
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FWIW, I think the correct numbers are 61,781,982 votes for Clinton and 60,834,398 votes for Trump. That's 47.9% and 47.2% respectively.
And then subtract the approximately 3 million illegal aliens that voted for Hillary...
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And then subtract the approximately 3 million illegal aliens that voted for Hillary...
I'm not an illegal alien, so I wasn't able to vote for NOT HILLIARY.
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Am I surprised by this? No. Am I convinced that Boxer lady is a POS? Yes.
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