Hitler Reacts to the WI 14 Dems

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Unions aren't being abolished in WI. Was never once proposed.

The EPA, and a dozen+ other Fed divisions could disappear tomorrow, and America would be a much better place....but that's a different topic.

Depends ... the EPA is now dealing withy ma & pa natural gas extraction operations sending cancerous materials into the air and water ...

So how would America be a better place ?

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

On another note-

Isn't a debate/discussion like this much more interesting than name calling and bashing? Kinda like being grown ups and all that

It is .. much better, and this should be the emphasis for VBPR&C and where bashing should be kept to minimal ..

[PortDawg]

Originally Posted by Exotix

I think that's moot for a host of reasons ... the GOP is attacking Unions to break them up simply because with lower wages, less goes into Obamas' 2012 campaign from the unions, who are the only major source of funding ...

Not sure this is the reason, would need proof that this is the logic being used. Haven't seen this anywhere. The unions would be better served if they were apolitical though.

Originally Posted by Exotix

Obama stands to recieve and spend a Billion dollars again anyway thanks to the entire world ...

Yeah and it sucks. I guess we could be isolationists if that's a better idea?

Originally Posted by Exotix

Why do you think Boehner and the GOP spend all their time not job creating but on ridiculous issues like planned parenthood and the EPA ... corp worlds' worst enemy ... oh, and zero corp taxes at zero economic stimulation ...

Seems to me they've been spending their time on the budget more than anything else. They could save huge money if they would get rid of the EPA.

Originally Posted by Exotix

Walker wants to sell Wisconsin to the highest bidder ... what's not moot reasoning for discovery, is why ?

Proof that he is doing this? I think he wants to bring business back to Wisconsin. The rest, don't see it. There is no win in it.

Originally Posted by Exotix

He isn't really planning on going back to Hitler/Stalin era wages is he in the name of national pride ?

Hitler and Stalin have nothing to contribute or to do with the discussion. What does is that our debt is out of control and the government controls 60%+ of the economy. Owning that much means they own it. So they have the responsibility to do the right thing or let it go and let the free market sort it out.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

Hitler and Stalin have nothing to contribute or to do with the discussion. What does is that our debt is out of control and the government controls 60%+ of the economy.
Owning that much means they own it.
So they have the responsibility to do the right thing or let it go and let the free market sort it out.

You have a point ... how did Bush & Cheney manage to double the national debt and bankrupt the Federal Govt. ... most finances that can't be accounted for ... while de-regulating the financial sectors to zero transparency to the place that banks could profit by creating a Great Depression never seen before and then create TARP & the Re-investment Act to fix it ... don't tell me it was a conspiracy to blame the liberal socialist/communist/fascists and Obama ...

... maybe McPalin should have come in so you can call them socialists/communists/national socialist fascists who own 60% of the economy ...

[Y2Kvert4me]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Depends ... the EPA is now dealing withy ma & pa natural gas extraction operations sending cancerous materials into the air and water ...

So how would America be a better place ?

Because of researched people like yourself, that doesn't need big brother protecting you from dangers you are already well-aware of.


This is a perspective thing of course, but the EPA is perhaps the biggest contributor to the downfall as our former "supplier to the world" status in heavy industry.
It is extremely sad that it is now more economical for us to have a boatload of steel shipped in from Korea than it is to simply pour and roll it ourselves. Not because of equipment, raw material, or labor shortages, but because of all the regulatory dancing required to be "eco-friendly".

That's not progress. That's bullshit, and that's where the jobs went. Only so many Starbucks clerk jobs are sustainable. America was once the leader in manufacturing, but we gave that away by regulating it out.

We are now more/less confined to the service industry, anything made of material found here today is most likely an import in raw form.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Because of researched people like yourself, that doesn't need big brother protecting you from dangers you are already well-aware of.


This is a perspective thing of course, but the EPA is perhaps the biggest contributor to the downfall as our former "supplier to the world" status in heavy industry.
It is extremely sad that it is now more economical for us to have a boatload of steel shipped in from Korea than it is to simply pour and roll it ourselves. Not because of equipment, raw material, or labor shortages, but because of all the regulatory dancing required to be "eco-friendly".

That's not progress. That's bullshit, and that's where the jobs went. Only so many Starbucks clerk jobs are sustainable. America was once the leader in manufacturing, but we gave that away by regulating it out.

We are now more/less confined to the service industry, anything made of material found here today is most likely an import in raw form.

Visit any big city in the world who don't need no stink'ng EPA ... if you can see your hand in front of your face ... that's a good day ...

[Y2Kvert4me]

Originally Posted by Exotix

Visit any big city in the world who don't need no stink'ng EPA ... if you can see your hand in front of your face ... that's a good day ...

Yeah, I've been to them.


Al has no such city.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

Yeah, I've been to them.

Al has no such city.

Usually a town around here are civil war landmarks on some field ...

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[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

So who are the unions serving? The worker or the union leadership? Seems like they are a legalized version of the mob.

Who are Koch brothers serving?
What are the Big Tax Breaks to Big Business, Big Oil and Millionaires serving?

[PortDawg]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Who are Koch brothers serving?
What are the Big Tax Breaks to Big Business, Big Oil and Millionaires serving?

Who are George Soros and Warren Buffett serving?

Those tax breaks keep business here and provide companies with the capacity to hire more people. Basic economics.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

Who are George Soros and Warren Buffett serving?

Those tax breaks keep business here and provide companies with the capacity to hire more people. Basic economics.

I swear, I've never gotten anything from Soros and Buffett, but I did send letter asking for a donation.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

Who are George Soros and Warren Buffett serving?

Those tax breaks keep business here and provide companies with the capacity to hire more people. Basic economics.

You must listen to Pat Buchanan ...

[PortDawg]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I swear, I've never gotten anything from Soros and Buffett, but I did send letter asking for a donation.

My families properties butt up against farmland belonging to Warrens brother. My biological father knows him pretty well, says he is s good guy. I just disagree with his politics.

[PortDawg]

Originally Posted by Exotix

You must listen to Pat Buchanan ...

No it's the way money and business work....

[PortDawg]

...in a free market economy that is.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

...in a free market economy that is.

That's what I 'm talking about ... Buchanan gets up there everyday and broadbrushes you all about how Nixon, Reagan and the Bush's were the greatest president's evar ... then when it comes to *micro-analyzing* Clinton & Obama he goes into tirades that are about to give himself an aneurysm ... eyes start blinking all wild, red-faced and hot under the collar ... He looks like he's about to pass-out on the set ...

McCain always does that one real well ... you gotta be a young republican to lie in your face and be cool ... just like Pat and cronys back in the day ..

Yes same (R) shit ... new generation ...

[PortDawg]

Originally Posted by Exotix

That's what I 'm talking about ... Buchanan gets up there everyday and broadbrushes you all about how Nixon, Reagan and the Bush's were the greatest president's evar ... then when it comes to *micro-analyzing* Clinton & Obama he goes into tirades that are about to give himself an aneurysm ... eyes start blinking all wild, red-faced and hot under the collar ... He looks like he's about to pass-out on the set ...

McCain always does that one real well ... you gotta be a young republican to lie in your face and be cool ... just like Pat and cronys back in the day ..

Yes same (R) shit ... new generation ...

I don't like Buchanan's delivery style nor his emotional outbursts. Now explain to me how Obama's economic policies have improved things since he took office. He has been in for 2 years and things have gotten progressively worse. Unemployment scraping at 10% consistently. Debt increasing daily with no effort to stop it, etc. etc.

No broad brush strokes, let's speak in specifics, if you can.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by PortDawg

I don't like Buchanan's delivery style nor his emotional outbursts.

Now explain to me how Obama's economic policies have improved things since he took office.
He has been in for 2 years and things have gotten progressively worse.
Unemployment scraping at 10% consistently.
Debt increasing daily with no effort to stop it, etc. etc.

No broad brush strokes, let's speak in specifics, if you can.

I think I need a Will graph on this one ...

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Exotix

I think I need a Will graph on this one ...

Wow, and to think, I thought the Decade of Bush had an impact on the last 24 months. Naaa, it was all Obama in 24 months. That's good, if Obama can change the nation for the worse in just 24 months, then he still has the God like powers to fix the Bush F*ck-ups in another 24 months.

Thanks, there's still Hope for Change.

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

Wow, and to think, I thought the Decade of Bush had an impact on the last 24 months. Naaa, it was all Obama in 24 months. That's good, if Obama can change the nation for the worse in just 24 months, then he still has the God like powers to fix the Bush F*ck-ups in another 24 months.

Thanks, there's still Hope for Change.

More importantly, I think it's gonna make a certain group of GOP'rs unhappy who came out yesterday and stated the obvious ... *Thanks to the American People who spoke last November, yesterdays unemployment figures and job growth stats shows we're da shit*