Official Presidential Debate Thread

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Dear Craig. What, at this point, does it matter? Tell you what. If Trump loses you can just gloat and gloat and be very very gloaty. I will be busy doing things.

No gloating allowed, I want them both to lose, so I don't have a reason to gloat either way.

Edit: Here's my concern: If he loses his supporters can either realize they nominated someone unelectable, or next time they can double down and back someone so far out there that Trump looks like Churchill in comparison. If he wins, and he sucks (Ventura, Ah-nold), the Dems respond by electing Boinee on steroids.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Craig

No gloating allowed, I want them both to lose, so I don't have a reason to gloat either way.

Cool. Doing absolutely nothing to stop the utter demise of the greatest country to exist since possibly Portugal is fine by me. What differeeno does it giggity make?

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Cool. Doing absolutely nothing to stop the utter demise of the greatest country to exist since possibly Portugal is fine by me. What differeeno does it giggity make?

See edit above, didn't finish the thought...

[Cybercowboy]

Ugh. It's just exhausting. None of your doomsday scenarios are likely to happen. But if Hillary wins, doomsday on bucko!

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TxAg

IMHO you're making a lot of assumptions in all of that.

I'm making reasoned inferences. We covered the scenario where the Donald wants a second term, and the scenario where he's happy with one and done. You seem convinced that Trump will pull a bait and switch with regards to SC nominees, and convinced enough to not vote for Trump because of that.

I'm asking you to describe the possible universe where Trump does NOT nominate anyone on his lengthy list. Does Trump take office on Jan. 20, 2017, and say, "hey suckers, I just said all that stuff to get elected, I'm actually just gonna go with Hillary's policies?

Trump may be from New York, but I think dancin' with the one that brung ya is a pretty universal concept.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

If Trump loses you can just gloat and gloat and be very very gloaty. I will be busy doing things.

Weeping most likely.

[Hoog]

Since Trump is going to win in a landslide, all this talk does nothing other than reveal the true character of some of the folks around here.

[Vette40th]

Originally Posted by Hoog

Since Trump is going to win in a landslide, all this talk does nothing other than reveal the true character of some of the folks around here.

You could say the same for the Clinton camp

[WalkerInTN]

Originally Posted by Hoog

Since Trump is going to win in a landslide, all this talk does nothing other than reveal the true character of some of the folks around here.

I'm still wondering how that's going to happen. On every poll I've seen, Trump's numbers with minorities are absolutely dismal.

If I learned one thing from the past 2 Obama elections, minorities WILL turn up to vote.

Definitely right about the character thing though.

[StaticCling]

Originally Posted by WalkerInTN

If I learned one thing from the past 2 Obama elections, minorities WILL turn up to vote.

Minorities turned up to vote because of the color of the candidate/Incumbent skin...

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by WalkerInTN

I'm still wondering how that's going to happen. On every poll I've seen, Trump's numbers with minorities are absolutely dismal.

If I learned one thing from the past 2 Obama elections, minorities WILL turn up to vote.

Definitely right about the character thing though.

Last 2 elections was between a minority and and old white man.This time it's between 2 old white people that most minorities don't trust. Bet they stay home.

[Hoog]

There is a guy that uses an different algorithm for predicting elections and such. It isn't based on standard polling data, but looks at things like YouTube views, searches, Facebook followers, likes....shit like that. He predicted quite accurately the Brexit result when the standard thinking was they would stay in the EU. His probability shows Trump way ahead. It's been a few weeks since it last made the rounds, and I can't seem to find it .

Cyber can probably link it up pretty quick. I bet he knows the site.

[Wathen1955]

Saw this morning news: Dilbert' Cartoonist: Was Hillary Drugged During Debate?

Not only did she looked drugged, but had massive amounts of bondo on her face.

Hillary Clinton appeared to be artificially alert and may have been drugged for Monday night's debate, "Dilbert" cartoonist Scott Adams wrote Tuesday.

Adams — who endorsed Republican Donald Trump for president on Sunday, following his Clinton endorsement in June — wrote in a blog post on his website Clinton won the debate but seemed off.

"Clinton looked [to my eyes] as if she was drugged, tired, sick, or generally unhealthy, even though she was mentally alert and spoke well," Adams wrote. "But her eyes were telling a different story. She had the look of someone whose doctors had engineered 90 minutes of alertness for her just for the event. If she continues with a light campaign schedule, you should assume my observation is valid, and she wasn't at 100 percent.

"Some will say Clinton outperformed expectations because she didn't cough, collapse, or die right on stage. That would be true if she also looked healthy in general, and her campaign schedule from here on out is full. We'll know more this week, based on her schedule."

'Dilbert' Cartoonist: Was Hillary Drugged During Debate?

[WalkerInTN]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Minorities turned up to vote because of the color of the candidate/Incumbent skin...

Yeah, I've mentioned that a few time, most everyone here ignores it. Point being that they DID show up.

Originally Posted by VatorMan

Last 2 elections was between a minority and and old white man.This time it's between 2 old white people that most minorities don't trust. Bet they stay home.

One of which want's to take away that .gov tit. I'd imagine many will be willing to spend an hour going to vote to get 4 more years on that tit, aka Hilldawg. I'd also expect tons of Mexicans to vote Hillary due to Trump's immigration policy. She's killing him in every minority poll I've seen.

Originally Posted by Hoog

There is a guy that uses an different algorithm for predicting elections and such. It isn't based on standard polling data and such, but looks at things like YouTube views, searches, Facebook followers, likes....shit like that. He predicted quite accurately the Brexit result when the standard thinking was they would stay in the EU. His probability shows Trump way ahead. It's been a few weeks since it last made the rounds, and I can't seem to find it .

Cyber can probably link it up pretty quick. I bet he knows the site.

I think not nearly as many minorities use those as white people do, which would seem to skew the results.


Something funny I saw on CBS this morning: A video showed Trump saying he won the CBS post-debate poll. CBS pointed out that they didn't do a post-debate poll.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by WalkerInTN

One of which want's to take away that .gov tit. I'd imagine many will be willing to spend an hour going to vote to get 4 more years on that tit, aka Hilldawg. I'd also expect tons of Mexicans to vote Hillary due to Trump's immigration policy. She's killing him in every minority poll I've seen.

While the Democrat always does better than the Republican in minority polling, Trump is scaring the bejeezus out of the Democrats with how well he's doing with both blacks and Hispanics. He's polling way ahead of where Romney was at this point with both groups, and is doing better among blacks than any Republican presidential candidate in my memory, at somewhere around 20% now.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Hoog

Cyber can probably link it up pretty quick. I bet he knows the site.

I could probably find it, but try using Google to find positive Trump stories. It's almost like they are filtering them out in searches (they are.)

[Craig]

"I reject your reality and substitute my own..."

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by WalkerInTN

Yeah, I've mentioned that a few time, most everyone here ignores it. Point being that they DID show up.



One of which want's to take away that .gov tit. I'd imagine many will be willing to spend an hour going to vote to get 4 more years on that tit, aka Hilldawg. I'd also expect tons of Mexicans to vote Hillary due to Trump's immigration policy. She's killing him in every minority poll I've seen.



I think not nearly as many minorities use those as white people do, which would seem to skew the results.


Something funny I saw on CBS this morning: A video showed Trump saying he won the CBS post-debate poll. CBS pointed out that they didn't do a post-debate poll.

To be fair, I know there was a CBS New York tv station that had one. Also, we all know the MSM wouldn't lie or make statements of half truths, right....

[Hoog]

This is it (I think), the company is called Predata. It's not a prediction per se, but a measure of the "pulse" of the campaign.

Predata’s US election digital campaign scores are generated by computing the weekly, month-long correlations of Predata’s signals for Clinton and Trump to the overall signal for the US election, which is a composite of all the material in the individual candidate signals plus a selection of neutral/explanatory background material about the election online. These scores are not a prediction or a probability level of victory for the respective candidate on November 8; they are a measure of each campaign’s correlation to online conversation about the election as a whole, which can be used as a rough guide to which side is dominating, from week to week, the digital campaign. The scores are not polls, but they can offer a perspective independent of the polls, and the movements in similarly constructed scores have historically led swings in the polls (something we saw with Brexit). Since the scores are correlations, they do not need to sum to 100%. (A “score” of 49.83% is nothing more than a correlation of 0.4983.)

Latest Report

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Craig

"I reject your reality and substitute my own..."

You asked for where I got my polling information from. I put up links. You ignored them. So, there's that.