Great Column for Those Who Can Read

[Flatbush Harry]

For those who can read, the following column from today's NY Times describes very well what has happened to the Dems and Mr. Obama. It is not flattering but rather, is analytic and, IMHO, very astute. I commend it. For those who wish to extend the current failures for another few years, read the NY Daily News or Post; they have a comics section.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/op...gewanted=print

Harry, serious for a change

[Skia]

I came in hoping for pics.....Now I gotta read it?? Damn it harraH

[GS Ragtop]

Cliffs: Obama's middle-of-the-road stance disappoints liberals, thinking he was going to spank the conservatives for defanging the regulatory agencies that could have prevented the global financial crisis (or at least punished those who were guilty).

Cliffs too: If Obama had any balls, he's make those rich conservatives pay for all the entitlement programs needed by hard-working americans. But he doesn't.


How did I do, Harry? Did I summarize accurately the author's position?

[SnikPlosskin]

I read the whole thing.

More BS by the left. Calling republicans "extremists", lionizing the Dems, implying that the American people are ignorant and it's up to the politicians to communicate in a certain way so people "understand".

The reason the Dems are disappointed in BO is because he's a failure and a liar. But they also need to stop blaming Bush (the article refers to the Bush admin running up the debt) and start looking in the mirror.

[lspencer534]

More cliffs:

In his Inaugural Address, Obama should have villified those who caused this financial mess and made them our enemy, called them out into the street, and beat them with clubs! [i.e., class warfare]

Obama's infusion of trillions of dollars into the economy wasn't nearly enough.

The rich [who are defined as millionaires...although you'd better have at least a million if you expect to retire] should be paying through the nose in taxes.

Subsidies to oil companies should be eliminated...since that causes the extreme weather we are seeing.

Again, villify, villify, villify...someone.

Maybe Obama just isn't up to the job. [Aha! Something that makes sense.]

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by GS Ragtop

Cliffs: Obama's middle-of-the-road stance disappoints liberals, thinking he was going to spank the conservatives for defanging the regulatory agencies that could have prevented the global financial crisis (or at least punished those who were guilty).

Cliffs too: If Obama had any balls, he's make those rich conservatives pay for all the entitlement programs needed by hard-working americans. But he doesn't.


How did I do, Harry? Did I summarize accurately the author's position?

That pretty much summed up the author's position, all right.


As for summing up reality?

[OddBall]

I'm glad y'all posted the cliffs.


Oddball
Lazy, illiterate f'cker

[Sea Six]

Admit it, Harry,


You're a leftist: a Republican in name only... if you believe that slanted dribble that you posted.

[OddBall]

Originally Posted by lspencer534

More cliffs:

In his Inaugural Address, Obama should have villified those who caused this financial mess and made them our enemy, called them out into the street, and beat them with clubs! [i.e., class warfare]

Obama's infusion of trillions of dollars into the economy wasn't nearly enough.

The rich [who are defined as millionaires...although you'd better have at least a million if you expect to retire] should be paying through the nose in taxes.

Subsidies to oil companies should be eliminated...since that causes the extrem weather we are seeing.

Again, villify, villify, villify...someone.

Maybe Obama just isn't up to the job. [Aha! Something that makes sense.]

Well; it did work for Hitler, Stalin, Tojo...

[BuckyThreadkiller]

It appears the left is discovering what a great many of us knew prior to the election - Mr Obama had limited experience in an executive role, had no experience building consensus and had never taken and stood firm on a position of substance.

On a weekend when 30 American warriors died and the economic underpinnings of the country were called into question, Mr Obama was nowhere to be found.

I do hope the author of the article gets his bedtime story he seems to think will make it all better.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by GS Ragtop

Cliffs: Obama's middle-of-the-road stance disappoints liberals, thinking he was going to spank the conservatives for defanging the regulatory agencies that could have prevented the global financial crisis (or at least punished those who were guilty).

Cliffs too: If Obama had any balls, he's make those rich conservatives pay for all the entitlement programs needed by hard-working americans. But he doesn't.


How did I do, Harry? Did I summarize accurately the author's position?

You missed how Obama was the second coming of FDR and how the mean old Republicans are chipping away at entitlement programs (which entitlement is a dirty word) and he's just standing by. Bush gave the uber rich 2 trillion and cost the US 1 trillion with the war....etc....


BTW- Does anyone remember how Reagan toppled the USSR ?

[lspencer534]

Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller

It appears the left is discovering what a great many of us knew prior to the election - Mr Obama had limited experience in an executive role, had no experience building consensus and had never taken and stood firm on a position of substance.

On a weekend when 30 American warriors died and the economic underpinnings of the country were called into question, Mr Obama was nowhere to be found.

I do hope the author of the article gets his bedtime story he seems to think will make it all better.

Yep! Obama rode into office on a carefully orchestrated charade, backed by tons of money. He tells people what they want to hear and promises them hope and change...with no idea WTF he is talking about or how to do it. All he knows is that he'll probably get re-elected if he doesn't rock the boat too much and he keeps on demonizing those despicable "rich" Americans. And he has nothing but hate for the military.

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by lspencer534

Yep! Obama rode into office on a carefully orchestrated charade, backed by tons of money. He tells people what they want to hear and promises them hope and change...with no idea WTF he is talking about or how to do it. All he knows is that he'll probably get re-elected if he doesn't rock the boat too much and he keeps on demonizing those despicable "rich" Americans. And he has nothing but hate for the military.

Example of Obama just "telling the crowd what they want to hear" ... and it results in this "7 lies in 2 minutes" video. There is NO WAY this asshole DIDN'T know he was lying. Watch his face... he's good. He's almost believable, without the benefit of what we now know.

‪7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes‬‏ - YouTube

[The_Dude]

He's cooked his own goose. President Romney anyone?

[Datawiz]

Good. His party is turning on him.

[high desert]

Was I dreaming when Obama blamed Bush for the "worst economy since the Great Depression" ad nauseum?
Was I dreaming when Obama said "I'm the only one standing between you (bankers) and pitchforks?"
Was I dreaming when Obama continuously vilified the so-called rich and called for higher taxes on them?

The ONE thing Obama IS good at is blaming OTHER people for HIS failures.

The comparison between FDR and Obama does have some validity however. The economic policies of both Presidents lengthened rather than helped end the depression/recession they both faced.

[Sea Six]

Just for posterity, I'd like to repeat a viewpoint of Harry's that he expressed several months ago.

IIRC our Harry met with either a state or federal representative or senator (female, I believe). He said to her that the Tea Party was the worst thing that had ever happened to the Republican party.

She agreed with him.


I mention this here, because it may help others to understand the context of Harry posting this article in this thread. He's apparently against the things the Tea Party stands for.



Question for Harry: Do you still feel the Tea Party is the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party? If I'm incorrect in any of these points I'm repeating, please... by all means... correct me.

[ZipZap]

The writer is a democrat. He worked for the party and its members. So his positions on taxes and other issues are not surprising to me. While I don't particularly agree with his positions, most of the posters seem to be hung up on the ideology of the piece, and in my opinion, missed the point.

Obama is making decisions to remain in office because he possibly isn't smart and/or experienced enough to know any better.

BTW, Congress, on both sides of the aisle, is doing the same thing.

Has anybody actually heard a cohesive plan from either side to get us out of this mess, and why it might work? No, just endless banter about why the other side sucks. Never been a better time to introduce term limits...

[bearstrail]

Wow, what a toilet full of verbal diarrhea. His point about how Obama failed to dramatize the situation to manipulate the minds of the public is spot on. It's indicative of his lack of leadership experience. It demonstrated the lethargy of an unchallenged mind, weak from having his political victories being handed to him by his handlers. It demonstrates the willowy character of a man who made his way through an all too brief senatorial career, consistently voting present when leadership was required.

The rest is the same old tired, liberal narrative. It's told in what I will admit is an engaging, entertaining style. I'm sure Obama wishes he could have had the assistance of such a person. Someone to feed him these thoughts through a teleprompter to communicate the ideas that he was unable to summon from himself.

Sorry Harry, there's more wisdom in the average Doonesbury comic strip then that article. At least while Trudeau is pontificating, he occasionally gives you a laugh. You should try the Wall Street Journal. They always have a nice illustration on the front page of the business criminal they are profiling that day.

P.S. did you and your son ever get that charity off the ground for getting instruments to wounded vets for therapy? I have a guitar I'd like to donate.

[Uncle Pervey]

Well the Tea Party scares me the same way that some of the Democratic extremists movements do. Not that the Tea Party doesn't have some damned good ideas that I support, but there are some awfully stoopid people in positions of leadership within the Tea Party.
It is my belief that the Tea Party is a borderline extremist organization and any time a group of people back a extremist agenda, they loose practicality, civility and adaptability.
Politics isn't like sex, in sex No means No! In politics No means we can discuss it and compromise. It seems to me that neither groups of people in D.C. have any real idea of how to do the people's business.