The CV-19 “facts” thread

[SnikPlosskin]

I wanted to create a separate thread with cites. I put “facts” in quotes because there is literally no way to know what is true and what is not. However, I will cite official sources and publications that are mainstream. I will need to save and edit because my iPad refreshes when I change tabs and I lose everything.

1. The test for COVID can’t tell the difference between the regular flu and Cv. It also is not capable of differentiating the “Delta” variant. Therefore, anyone who says they had the Delta is full of shit.

There is only one way to tell - expensive genetic sequencing. And the CDC does the testing, 750 tests a week. They then extrapolate the data (guess) as to how many have it. They DO NOT diagnose individual cases.

From ABC in Dallas https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...b-96d98fff83fe

If you test positive, most tests won't tell you what strain of the virus you have, said Dr. David Winter, Director of Internal Medicine at Baylor Scott & White hospital in Dallas.

"We don't always know [the variant] when we do the regular tests," Winter said. "We do that in epidemiological studies ... The routine testing for COVID-19 will just tell you if you have the coronavirus. It doesn't tell you what strain you might have."

Health officials are able to identify COVID-19 strains through genetic sequencing, a process different from a standard COVID-19 test.

From politifact

Individuals are not being diagnosed with the delta variant.

Routine individual tests don’t reveal whether COVID-19 was caused by the delta variant. Scientists use genomic sequencing to determine what percentage of cases were caused by the variant.

2. The FDA admits it had no CV samples to create a control for the test. This means the tests have zero basis in science because there is no control sample. They used regular flu samples to develop the tests including the genetic sequencing. Read more on pages 38-40.

https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download#page38

...Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA...spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen.

[ratflinger]

Never confuse facts with .gov policy

[SnikPlosskin]

The current tests can’t tell the difference between regular flu and CV

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2...Testing_1.html

In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.

This means that regular flu has been counted as CV - vastly inflating the numbers.

For further correlation we turn to the WHO that shows flu cases went to almost zero as soon as we started testing for CV.

[SnikPlosskin]

More later. It is very difficult to find valid information.

[benny42]

Thanks for what you’re doing. Very enlightening.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by SnikPlosskin

It is very difficult to find valid information.

Boy howdy.

[Shrike6]

Yep, the lack of any cases of seasonal flu being reported was telling. I’ve been asking about that from the start, and getting no answers. Add to that the fact that a number of reputable coroners noted that they were pressured to call any death of someone with a positive test, a CV 19 death. Vastly inflating the mortality numbers. This whole mess stank of bs right from the beginning. And nobody has asked Fauci why he gave the red Chinese millions of dollars for their bio weapons lab. The WuhanInstitute of Virology and other Chinese sites have been known to work on bio weapons. The Chinese can NEVER be trusted. And these clowns gave them money? They seriously expected the money to be used for only peaceful purposes?
How stupid can you get? Has the world ever gotten a straight answer about Covid from them? The liberals love to say “never let a good crisis go to waste”. They didn’t waste this one. They used it to push alternate, insecure voting methods, purportedly to keep polling places from causing mass infection. And they are pushing the same damn narrative now, to do the same for the 2022 midterms, to keep control of both houses. Everything that has been going on has been to spread fear and panic, and make the case for keeping in place all those questionable voting practices that allowed them to steal the election. Liberals have control over all governmental agencies, who will support all this.

[Raazor]

Thanks!

[Steve_R]

[Jeff’79] Who cares about facts? [/Jeff’79]

[BayouCountry]

Tried to PM Snake but it says he exceeded message limit. Click on preview when using iPad and you won't lose posts when switching tabs. Click on resubmit when prompted to save after returning to tab. Works for me.

Good post! I bet most people think that Delta shows up when people are tested so they don't ask the question: How are they distinguishing Delta from original COVID? Answer: Just a few small sample studies are being used to reach conclusions on the Delta variant.

I gave up on finding information on Delta variant research studies. Most articles don't reference how they come to conclusions distinguishing Delta from the original. I would think this is an important thing to know and reference sources in articles. Today's "Journalists" suck!

Example. This article doesn't list sources.
https://1430wcmy.com/2021/08/13/delt...avirus-strain/

According to the CDC, more than 90% of COVID cases in the U.S. are currently caused by the delta variant

And this is all I could find:

In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons. Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients. Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

From what I gather, Doctors discern the Delta variant by symptoms.

[SnikPlosskin]

Originally Posted by BayouCountry

Tried to PM Snake but it says he exceeded message limit. Click on preview when using iPad and you won't lose posts when switching tabs. Click on resubmit when prompted to save after returning to tab. Works for me.

Good post! I bet most people think that Delta shows up when people are tested so they don't ask the question: How are they distinguishing Delta from original COVID? Answer: Just a few small sample studies are being used to reach conclusions on the Delta variant.

I gave up on finding information on Delta variant research studies. Most articles don't reference how they come to conclusions distinguishing Delta from the original. I would think this is an important thing to know and reference sources in articles. Today's "Journalists" suck!

Example. This article doesn't list sources.
https://1430wcmy.com/2021/08/13/delt...avirus-strain/

And this is all I could find:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

From what I gather, Doctors discern the Delta variant by symptoms.

Thanks. I’ll check my mailbox.

That phenomenon is something that just confirms what I’m saying. There is a conspicuous absense of sources and data. Hmmm...

I find a study one day and the next day it’s gone.

[ratflinger]

Gives credence to the claim that the data was 'posted'. The question then becomes 2-part, "Well then, is the data still there?"

[carlton_fritz]

ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S BEEN VACCINATED?’

Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what in the world does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the world can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’

And...scene...

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[carlton_fritz]

https://www.facebook.com/11128456054...59018517953597


if anyone knows how to get the video from that link, feel free to do so.

[Mike Mercury]

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by SnikPlosskin

More later. It is very difficult to find valid information.

This hasn't been fact checked on my FB page for a few days so there's probably some accuracy to it if you're able to comprehend sarcasm and don't goose step to the Heil Faucci thing.