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02-15-2020, 1:43pm | #1 | ||||||
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A little help (Tractor related)
Some here may remember that I bought a '75 farm tractor a year or so ago to help us clean up our vacation/retirement property and so far its been perfect for our needs.
Something went wrong with the starter or whatever and I can't figure it out. first I tried to get the starter off, that's a big fat "No" it sits right where the arm for the bucket is, I could get to 2 bolts but the third on the backside against the block is impossible the way it's sitting right now. when I try to start it the starter spins but nothing. I thought maybe a dead spot on the flywheel and drug it with my truck (not easy with the bucket and bush hog out back down) but I managed to move it a foot or more. Nope, same thing. At this point it could be the seloniod (another on the backside, against the block, impossible to reach item) or whatever, I don't want to pay some to come fix it I want to get it running myself... Any suggestions? Maybe WOEII will see this and give an opinion. |
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02-15-2020, 2:28pm | #2 | ||||||
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Put it on a charger to make sure it is good and hot battery then smack the starter a few good wraps. The bendix is sticking. If there is any way to spray some lube on it would be great. Also if you can clean the contacts or jump the solinoid might do the trick as well.
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I agree with the above post. A "dead" spot on the flywheel would result in the starter gear spinning free because a tooth is missing. Thus, your starter would be running. Check your battery, then work your way forward with wiring, etc. until you get to the solenoid or starter. If the solenoid took a shit, you should still get a "click", but no starter activation.
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Sure sounds like selenoid issue. If can get something on it to smack it with to maybe free it up. Unfortunately I'd say that starter needs to come off.
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~ use truck to pull tractor away from bucket, then use truck to pull start the tractor to drive it to the place you want to change out the starter ~ alternately (pun intended), hook up the truck's battery to the tractor battery, and try to start it while your buddy beats on the starter with a wood block or wrench, then use tractor power to lift bucket arms out of the way |
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If you do end up needing to pull it you can jack or hoist the arms out of the way just need to Crack loose the hydro lines to relieve the pressure and block them well.
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From my experience, the solenoid has always made a clicking sound, but would not engage the starter. The old hammer tap is sometimes a quick fix, but the solenoid obviously needed to be replaced.
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This is what I'm thinking. I've heard/seen/fixed this issue many years ago, not a big issue until you have that arm covering the sight of the entire starter. I'll get a video a little later or in the morning to better describe what I'm dealing with. Thanks for the suggestions, keep'em coming |
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If the starter is spinning but the gear is not engaging the on the flywheel, it would seem the gear is not "throwing out" on the shaft.
Any access holes you could spray some KROIL into to free it up? |
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sticky bendix. Any inspection plate or hole will do. Maybe so warmth if it is cold there. Did you try jumping the solinoid yet? |
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Can you get a picture of the "hidden" bolt? Maybe some brainstorming will come up with an idea where it would be the last time it would need to be removed.
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Is your battery fully charged?
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There is a possibility of it also being the ignition switch. Most likely the solenoid though. I took mine off my '74 C10...laying on my back in the driveway and that original heavy son of a gun with the wires barely long enough to reach it. Most of us have been there. But, I took it all apart and cleaned it up. I didn't rebuild it,etc...just gave everything a good cleaning. O'Reilly's it tested just fine. Laying on my back in the driveway again and hoisting the heavy SOB back up while trying to get the bolts started and wiring in position....PITA...tried it...click click click! Zip, nothing. Rinse, repeat. Took it to Autozone and it failed. Anyway...check and clean all your grounds first. Make sure you have proper battery voltage..6v/12v. If you remove it. They should be cheap enough to replace it or get it rebuilt. Sounds like you will need some swivel extensions etc for the hidden bolt.
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When the starter gear breaks, you get solenoid and starter turn, but no engine turn. Been there done that, got the t-shirt... greasy fixing it. OP. if you get it off, you may want to see if studs and nuts are a better solution for a future repair. |
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I had a problem once on my vette where the starter would spin but the engine would not turn over. Turned out that the flywheel ring would spin but the flywheel it self would not spin. Wild guess but your flywheel may have a ring for it's teeth and it spins. Most likely you cannot see your flywheel, correct?
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