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Old 05-21-2020, 6:13pm   #1
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Default Why do the sign Interpreters looks like they need to take a giant dump.....

or,
are they giving me me the finger?

Can't one just turn on closed captioning?
All TVs have that, don't they?









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Lol... Having grown up with a near deaf parent perhaps can shed some insight.
The body movements and expressions on their faces are equivalent to attenuation in your normal voice and punctuation for lack of a better explanation.
Sign is short hand and difficult to do so these are short cuts of a short, although some do overdo it and those seem to be popular now for some reason(thanks fakebook).
Closed caption may not be available for those events and I've found it to be incomplete alot of times.
I used to watch tv with mute on and just lip read but too many people mumble or have nuances that make hard to do, some are super easy however. That's why we need the sign interpretation. Still it's not a complete transcript, much different than speaking to someone with sign language one on one.

Anyone remember the guy I think it was in FL that was faking it as an interpreter during a hurricane (can't remember exactly why he was on).
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Lol... Having grown up with a near deaf parent perhaps can shed some insight.
The body movements and expressions on their faces are equivalent to attenuation in your normal voice and punctuation for lack of a better explanation.
Sign is short hand and difficult to do so these are short cuts of a short, although some do overdo it and those seem to be popular now for some reason(thanks fakebook).
Closed caption may not be available for those events and I've found it to be incomplete alot of times.
I used to watch tv with mute on and just lip read but too many people mumble or have nuances that make hard to do, some are super easy however. That's why we need the sign interpretation. Still it's not a complete transcript, much different than speaking to someone with sign language one on one.

Anyone remember the guy I think it was in FL that was faking it as an interpreter during a hurricane (can't remember exactly why he was on).

It was at Nelson Mandella's memorial service

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It was at Nelson Mandella's memorial service

'Fake' interpreter at Nelson Mandela memorial - YouTube
I remember that! I was watching, and even though I don't know shit about sign language, it was obvious the guy was just making the same gestures over and over again such that I knew he was bullshit. Yes, it was funny!
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The body movements and expressions on their faces are equivalent to attenuation in your normal voice and punctuation for lack of a better explanation.
true. But, these latest signers act like it's an audition to possible celebrity stardom.
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The guy that signs for Gov. Charlie Faker looks like he (like a lot of us in MA) wants to interpret like this:


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true. But, these latest signers act like it's an audition to possible celebrity stardom.
They must have went to the William Shatner school of signing....
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Lol... Having grown up with a near deaf parent perhaps can shed some insight.
The body movements and expressions on their faces are equivalent to attenuation in your normal voice and punctuation for lack of a better explanation.
Sign is short hand and difficult to do so these are short cuts of a short, although some do overdo it and those seem to be popular now for some reason(thanks fakebook).
Closed caption may not be available for those events and I've found it to be incomplete alot of times.
I used to watch tv with mute on and just lip read but too many people mumble or have nuances that make hard to do, some are super easy however. That's why we need the sign interpretation. Still it's not a complete transcript, much different than speaking to someone with sign language one on one.

Anyone remember the guy I think it was in FL that was faking it as an interpreter during a hurricane (can't remember exactly why he was on).
Yup.

OP pics are great.



BTW I ****ing hate CC on the telly unless they have thick accents. I cannot convince my wife and daughter they’re a distraction and take away from what the producer is trying to convey. It’s ok if you miss some of the dialogue. I rarely watch TV with them.
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Close caption would be so much better.
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Close caption would be so much better.
Doesn’t work so well for a live event in which you are a participant without a screen, meetings and church and such.
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Close caption would be so much better.
Live closed caption always looks like it is run through Apple autocorrect. And you know how accurate that is.
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Live closed caption always looks like it is run through Apple autocorrect. And you know how accurate that is.
The thing is, I've seen voice recognition software that works fantastic compared to what I see from their "transcription service" or whatever it is they use. It works in near-real time and I have no idea why it isn't used for stuff like this. And a lot of it is free. You wouldn't believe how good some of the free tools are. I've recently been using an optical character recognition engine called "tesseract" that is friggin' amazing. You can feed it a tiff or pdf and it will not only automatically recognize any text it finds, it will also provide the location of that text so that you can highlight it with a little bit of coding on your part.

You can literally take a picture of the page of an old book, feed it to tesseract, and in less than a couple of seconds have it perfectly turned to text.
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I remember going to the ear doctor as a kid... The dumbass had a thick beard so nobody could read his lips. He was told as much numerous times. I would have to resay everything so as they could read my lips. Take massive hearing aids out then talk to them with a shaggy beard and stash.
Problem with the software as I see it is they can't agree on what to use and if the deaf are in public no guarantee the TV has either CC or th software available for the deaf.
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That's a great one!
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I remember going to the ear doctor as a kid... The dumbass had a thick beard so nobody could read his lips. He was told as much numerous times. I would have to resay everything so as they could read my lips. Take massive hearing aids out then talk to them with a shaggy beard and stash.
Problem with the software as I see it is they can't agree on what to use and if the deaf are in public no guarantee the TV has either CC or th software available for the deaf.
The vast majority of people who are hard of hearing and/or deaf don't know sign language. That's just it. Unless you were deaf at a very young age or learned it to help a deaf relative, you don't know it. Also note that the closed caption could be added to the live feed, where it's like the chyron on CNN or Fox News. We have the technology to do this right now, it's widely available, and so there you go.
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