The Mary Trump Book.... Should be Interesting Reading.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by z06psi

What national security stuff worries you?


I will also ask this.

How many countries have you been to?


How many of those are third world shit holes?

Italy, Peru, Equador, Canada, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Why? Where have you been ?

Trump is a lying sack of shit, not to mention an amoral loser.
More reasons not to vote for him.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Italy, Peru, Equador, Canada, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Why? Where he e you been ?



Trump is a lying sack of shit, not to mention a amoral loser.

More reasons not to vote for him.

Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Djibouti, Kuwait, Uzbekistan.

Those are just the third word shitholes.


You think you are worldly because you went on vacation?

I have seen what happens when government is larger than the individual.

You are ignorant in your thinking because you went to have drinks at a resort.


**** off.

You are what's wrong with this country.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by z06psi

Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Djibouti, Kuwait, Uzbekistan.

Those are just the third word shitholes.


You think you are worldly because you went on vacation?

I have seen what happens when government is larger than the individual.

You are ignorant in your thinking because you went to have drinks at a resort.


**** off.

You are what's wrong with this country.

Go kill some baby's asshat.
You're a sad excuse for a patriot.. Actually, you're not one. Just a suck grunt.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Go kill some baby's asshat.

You're a sad excuse for a patriot.. Actually, you're not one. Just a suck grunt.

Attacking the military members huh?


Good luck with that.




At least everyone knows now.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by snide

*You are

YER!!!!!

[z06psi]

I love this guy now.

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by z06psi

Attacking the military members huh?


Good luck with that.




At least everyone knows now.

Ya, you are special because dad booted you and you had to join the military.
You don't respect.me?
I don't respect you.
My dad was military and I have uncle's and cousins in the military and I respect them.
Respect.is earned and you're lower than scum to me.
Btw... How many d!cz did you have to suck to get above private? Quite a few obviously.
Have a nice day grunt.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Ya, you are special because dad booted you and you had to join the military.

You don't respect.me?

I don't respect you.

My dad was military and I have uncle's and cousins in the military and I respect them.

Respect.is earned and you're lower than scum to me.

Btw... How many d!cz did you have to suck to get above private? Quite a few obviously.

Have a nice day grunt.

Der Flieger. Is that you?


Do you have a token black friend also?

[Anjdog2003]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Go kill some baby's asshat.

Don't ever and i mean ever say that to a Veteran from WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. ASSHOLE

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Anjdog2003

Don't ever and i mean ever say that to a Veteran from WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. ASSHOLE

He was promoted.

Piece of shit to worthless piece of shit.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

I revealed that numerous threads ago after Trump's Lafayette Park stunt.
And yet he continues to fk up.
Again, yes, I'll vote for Biden, just so Trump loses.
Biden is the lesser.of two evils.
Trump is a stupid person. Stupid is as stupid does.

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

His leadership as of late is nil.
He's is being played at his own game, which is hilarious to watch.
Wouldn't you agree?

Trump is DOING better in IMPORTANT areas than ANY prez in the previous 70 some odd years.....except Reagan.....

if not for the nazi/commie DoMoCraps determined to destroy this nation, we'd be on a great track now, BUT the Chicoms/even Russians?/Soros/etc trying to destroy this nation......have been overly successful.......DAMNIT!!!!!

[z06psi]

Tries to piss me off with a baby killer point but supports actual baby killers.

#infantlivesmatter

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Trump is DOING better in IMPORTANT areas than ANY prez in the previous 70 some odd years.....except Reagan.....

if not for the nazi/commie DoMoCraps determined to destroy this nation, we'd be on a great track now, BUT the Chicoms/even Russians?/Soros/etc trying to destroy this nation......have been overly successful.......DAMNIT!!!!!

Gene.
In other areas, not so much.
Unfortunately,, he thinks he is above the law and therefore can do anything he wants, above the checks and balances of the law.
I won't accept that, therefore have to vote for the other candidate to stop him from a second term.

[NEED-A-VETTE]

I’m going to leave this here and assume everyone can act like adults because I’m not spending my holiday babysitting or kissing boo boos.

That’s all I’m going to say about that.

https://kletische.com/attack-person-behind-opinion/

Why Attacking the Person Behind an Opinion Is an Automatic Loss

• Abandonment of What You Believe
• Ideas Are Harder to Attack Than People
• Motivations Are Exposed

You’ve likely seen arguments turn sour.

Once a personal remark is made, it’s difficult to steer the disagreement back to focusing on the topic at hand and not on the people who are presenting their respective arguments. To those who watch, a disagreement is difficult to follow when personal remarks begin to fly back and forth. To those who partake, being personally attacked for an ideology entices them to dig their heels into the ground and attack right back. Those who begin commenting on the person behind an opinion tend not to arrive at beneficial results for their cause. This article aims to explain why you shouldn’t verbally attack the people who hold opinions with which you disagree.

Abandonment of What You Believe

Disagreements begin with two contending notions. If there are two parties partaking in a friendly disagreement, they will begin to structure arguments to support their cause. They will look for, organize, and present evidence to support their claims. They’ll begin to hold stake in their opinion as they spend increased time and effort into strengthening their stance. If you intend to compete with those whose opinions you don’t agree with, you’d have to do the same. Your points would need to be validated with evidence and then effectively presented as an argument for why you’re right.

If you steer away from strengthening your argument only to begin focusing your efforts on attacking the person whose argument you’re up against, you’ll serve to abandon your efforts at building a legitimate case for truth. Attacking people for their opinion labels your own opinion as not strong enough to contend. It communicates the notion that you perceive your argument to be weak, and that abandonment is the best choice of action . Believing the things you say to be aligned with truth entails focusing solely on what makes the arguments you present valid. The history, style, habits, and looks of the person who you argue against are seldom related to the points which we aim to align with truth.

Focusing on others simply means you’re not focusing on continuing to strengthen your argument. It means that you’re not actively listening to, and understanding, the points that others make and making educated rebuttals. Attacking the people behind opinions is a sign of laziness, and a lack of devotion to the truth. Attacking the people behind opinions is an abandonment of what you believe to be true.

Ideas Are Harder to Attack Than People

Ideas can be molded and controlled. You can make ideas as bulletproof as your heart and mind desire; but only if you put in the work. There are ideas which closely align with truth and ideas which don’t stand a chance. It takes hard work to shape an idea into something which resonates with others. You need evidence, your packaging must be pleasant, and your presentation should be seamless. You’ll meet masterful sculptors of ideas; sculptors which are themselves imperfect.

As hard as it is to mold an idea into a perfect truth, it’s even harder for people to mold themselves into perfect beings. By attacking the person behind an opinion, you serve to attack things they can seldom control. How someone looks, sounds, or acts like are easy pickings because they are often out of the control and focus of the person who you’re up against. Taking shots at the sculptor and looking past what they’ve worked so hard to sculpt communicates that you’ve found nothing blatantly wrong with the sculpture itself. As you desperately search for notions to attack, it becomes enticing to comment on the uncontrollable aspects of the sculptor themselves.

By focusing on the controllable aspects of ideas, and people’s attempts to shape these ideas into truth, you sign yourself up for the challenge to tackle what someone else considers perfection to be. It’s no surprise that people are imperfect. Pointing out that obvious fact will entice others to point out all the imperfections you live life with too. Focusing on someone’s perfect product (idea, argument) however, means being up for the challenge. It means shaping your own argument to outperform theirs. It means not backing down attempting to sculpt something even more perfect, and it means not going for easy pickings.

Motivations Are Exposed

Lastly, attacking the people behind an opinion communicates that you’re out to prove them wrong, rather than out to test your own ideas for truth. Those who simply want to label someone else as wrong are more likely to begin commenting on the person behind an opinion. Their desire to label someone wrong will go beyond simply having rebuttals to the opinions that person labels as truth. Rather than admitting wrongfulness, they’ll look past the playing field. They’ll reach out to pick the low hanging fruit, all because they’re dedicated to prove a person to be wrong, rather than an idea to be right.

If you respect truth, then you’re sensitive to when you are misaligned with it. If your opinions are backed by truth, then there would be no reason to look past evidence which makes your opinions true. There would be no need to exit the playing field of intellectual discourse only to focus on the person who pulls the strings from the other end. Focus on pulling the strings of your own argument to align as close to truth as possible. Don’t operate with the motivation to prove somebody wrong. Rather, aim to make your arguments bulletproof. Doing so entails knowing and admitting when you’re wrong. Admitting wrongfulness will ensure to communicate your motivations to be solely focused on strengthening your arguments and thoughts. If you’re wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically. If you’re right, then there is no reason to look past someone’s weaker arguments only to attack the person behind them. Ensure your motivations are understood to be noble by never commenting on the people behind opinions you disagree with.

[Murray]

Originally Posted by NEED-A-VETTE

I’m going to leave this here and assume everyone can act like adults because I’m not spending my holiday babysitting or kissing boo boos.

That’s all I’m going to say about that.

https://kletische.com/attack-person-behind-opinion/

Tl;dr

[Raazor] cliffs? [Raazor]

[Rikki Z-06]

Originally Posted by Murray

Tl;dr

[Raazor] cliffs? [Raazor]

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Murray

Tl;dr



[Raazor] cliffs? [Raazor]

I don't know.


Was it something I said?

[Jeff '79]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Trump is DOING better in IMPORTANT areas than ANY prez in the previous 70 some odd years.....except Reagan.....

if not for the nazi/commie DoMoCraps determined to destroy this nation, we'd be on a great track now, BUT the Chicoms/even Russians?/Soros/etc trying to destroy this nation......have been overly successful.......DAMNIT!!!!!

Excellent post NAV.
I've tried to be completely civil throughout my threads and posts here, however, some people stoop just too low, and need a rabbit punch.
I can play the low road but prefer not to. Sometimes you run into bullys though, and the gloves come off.
My opinions are mine. I respect.others opinions, but when I am personally attacked, I'll go toe to toe.if I have to.

[NEED-A-VETTE]

Originally Posted by Murray

Tl;dr

[Raazor] cliffs? [Raazor]

Sure thing.

Here you go.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by Jeff '79

Excellent post NAV.

I've tried to be completely civil throughout my threads and posts here, however, some people stoop just too low, and need a rabbit punch.

I can play the low road but prefer not to. Sometimes you run into bullys though, and the gloves come off.

My opinions are mine. I respect.others opinions, but when I am personally attacked, I'll go toe to toe.if I have to.