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I will admit, sometimes I let my feeling and emotions get the best of me and say things during the heat of the moment that I don't stop to think about what I am saying, but personally, I don't want to change anyone's way of thinking, I would just rather educate them and let them see the aspect of the other side, not so they change their mind, just so they have a better understanding. |
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Everyone has their beliefs...and that's totally fine. But there's room for rational talk and compromises. But people have to be willing to step back from the extremes and flat out hatred and meet in the middle from both sides. |
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Bigger issues in this world than homosexuality.
Personally......I don't care, its none of my business. One thing I want to point out, is that I've seen more behavior between heterosexuals that would be deemed inappropriate in public than I have of homosexuals. Years ago, I got up early on one of the few days I had off to go fishing. A guy in the apartment next door noticed I was loading up my gear, so we chatted for a moment, and I asked if he wanted to go. He looked surprised and said sure. A few miles down the road he told me he was gay. I told him BFD, we're going fishin', not fuckin'. He laughed hysterically and said you're not my type. To which I replied, Likewise. The subject never came up again. Like I said, its not up to me to judge, and I just don't care. |
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Lewis C.K. nails it right here - Last edited by Joecooool; 10-30-2012 at 11:40am. |
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Thanks for the response, and sorry, didn't mean to indicate that you were a proponent of same-sex marriage; I would agree that there should be a provision such as a civil union. Also glad to hear your daughter is a Christian; the church has done much to push the gay community away. It’s a complicated issue, but I hate the thought that people would reject Christ because the church rejected them; that’s not how it should be. |
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First example on Google: Ontario Christian minister forced to conduct same-sex ‘marriages’ or get sacked Quote:
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Civil ceremonies are non-religious ceremonies, so in this capacity, she is not performing a religious role, simply a civic role, unrelated to her church. Much the same as a judge marrying two people. By performing civil ceremonies, she's basically (temporarily) relinquishing her duties as a religious leader and performing the ceremony under the hat of a civic leader. If part of the duties of a civic leader is to perform same sex unions, and it is not something she is comfortable performing, then she should step out of that civic role. No one appears to be asking her to perform same sex marriages that are endorsed by her church. I would certainly be against forcing churches to perform same sex marriages, if it went against their fundamental beliefs. But that doesn't seem to be the case here. |
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Even my aunt, the born again Christian that sent her the letter in BMT, doesn't have hateful words for my daughter. She loves her the same as before she ever came out. So, my daughter is aware that there are some who will say hurtful and derogatory things, but it doesn't represent the vast majority. |
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Again, no one is going to her church and forcing her to marry them. My point stands. |
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If they wanted a religious marriage ceremony/union, and the government were forcing her to perform it within her church, that would be one thing. But she's not performing this particular duty in a religious capacity, she's performing it in a civic capacity, the same as a Justice, Judge, Magistrate, etc. Did I read this article wrong? |
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Your point flops. And that is before we even start talking about the other results Google spit up. |
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