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Old 09-03-2020, 11:39am   #1
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Default A must read for people who like to repair cars

If your in Massachusetts, a must read, but this BS might spread everywhere else.

Automaker-Funded Groups Are Using Fear Mongering To Take Away Your Right To Repair Your Car
https://jalopnik.com/automaker-funde...tak-1844921369

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If you don’t live in Massachusetts, which most of us don’t—a good thing because it’s not exactly a roomy state—then you likely haven’t seen the commercials aiming to persuade people to vote “no” on Massachusetts Question 1, the “Right to Repair Law” Vehicle Data Access Requirement Initiative. I’m going to say it’s a good thing these ads haven’t crawled across your screen because they are absolute fear-mongering bullshit, funded by almost all of the major automakers currently selling in America. Their goal is to make it impossible for individuals or independent shops to repair cars.

The ads are funded in part by the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, which includes members such as BMW Group, Bosch, FCA (and PSA, so I guess Stellantis now), Ferrari, Ford, GM, Honda, Hyundai/Kia, Isuzu, Jaguar Land Rover, Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Porsche and more—hell, even freaking Karma is in on this. It’s pretty much everyone except, notably, Tesla, and while it is no angel in this category, it’s worth noting that Elon Musk’s company is not joining in.

Fundamentally, here is what the yes or no options for Question 1 would do:

A “yes” vote supports requiring manufacturers that sell vehicles with telematics systems in Massachusetts to equip them with a standardized open data platform beginning with model year 2022 that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application.

A “no” vote opposes requiring vehicles beginning with model year 2022 to be equipped with a standardized open data platform that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application, thereby maintaining that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access mechanical and diagnostic data through a personal computer.

What this question does is attempt to either close or leave open a loophole in Massachusetts’ original Right to Repair law that passed overwhelmingly in 2012. Here’s what a yes or no on that vote resulted in:

A YES VOTE would enact the proposed law requiring motor vehicle manufacturers to allow vehicle owners and independent repair facilities in Massachusetts to have access to the same vehicle diagnostic and repair information made available to the manufacturers’ Massachusetts dealers and authorized repair facilities.

A NO VOTE would make no change in existing laws.
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John Deere and farmers have already been through this battle. It's not a good look for the manufacturers, I'll say that.
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I would imagine the Rockefeller family would WANT independent repair shops, because that makes car ownership less expensive, furthering gasoline sales.....

I would THINK they have enough influence to kill that kind of stoooooopidity....


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I may have a bad case of the dumb. What does this mean?

I read it as either an "app" or a "pc" choice.

A “yes” vote supports requiring manufacturers that sell vehicles with telematics systems in Massachusetts to equip them with a standardized open data platform beginning with model year 2022 that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application.

A “no” vote opposes requiring vehicles beginning with model year 2022 to be equipped with a standardized open data platform that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application, thereby maintaining that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access mechanical and diagnostic data through a personal computer.
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I may have a bad case of the dumb. What does this mean?



I read it as either an "app" or a "pc" choice.



A “yes” vote supports requiring manufacturers that sell vehicles with telematics systems in Massachusetts to equip them with a standardized open data platform beginning with model year 2022 that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application.



A “no” vote opposes requiring vehicles beginning with model year 2022 to be equipped with a standardized open data platform that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application, thereby maintaining that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access mechanical and diagnostic data through a personal computer.


The open platform means that the chinese can literally have the source code to steal and duplicate anything and everything. That’s just for starters. A terrible idea. The backers din’t respect auto repairers - They’re traveling in and funding it from around the world through the Mass. court system because it is the most liberal in the nation and they desperately want a precedent case to shove down the entire nation’s throat. The sponsors are not even from Mass! It is a money grab by Asian backers who make electronic parts.
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